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Just saw this posted on Faeit.

Now that is a little more interesting/concrete...

The starter vs. box set distinction could point to a new approach of multiple quasi-self-contained mono-posed starter like products - which could actually be a very good idea. Price point is attractive and a great lure and in the end, you'll tend to splurge for the individual models (for which prices are going bonkers consistently now) anyway.
Seems like good business sense to do a few of those - Heaven knows every set of that type they have produced has sold in very substantial numbers.

I'm hoping for a new Ragnar model, 20 Grey Hunters, and a drop pod.

Yeah I agree with Bolognesus, I believe that Warhammer starter sets of both stripes are particularly popular.
I know a fair few casual tabletop gamers, not heavily invested into Games Workshop games that have procured lorry loads of Dark Vengeance for the models alone.

We may see more themed sets that contain unique models, done well I'm sure it would interest a lot of people and prove pretty popular, though I won't hold my breath!

I wonder if DV will still be the starter set and this Sanctus Reach:Stormclaw will just be sets that go along with the books?

I thougt Sanctus Reach is the books being released next week. So maybe this box will go with the books and maybe they will release sets?

Maybe next one will be the Bro-brothers Blood Angels and Necrons? Just guessing.

gradam01 wrote:
Just saw this posted on Faeit.

That sounds interesting; almost makes it sound more like a... not starter set but like a campaign box that has a small force built around a specific part of a campaign? Although didn't DV have that too?

 Theophony wrote:

 ironicsilence wrote:

 azreal13 wrote:
Oooh, an anonymous Faiet source, must be true!

wasnt it also an anonymous faiet source that said the starter set was BA vs Orks?

Maybe its blood angels vs space wolves with a Ork peace envoy trying to settle the dispute. Their might even be a way of winning without fighting the battle. Of course you'll have to buy the new kit to win, its a model of an Ork in a lawyer suit that looks like their lawyer from the chapterhouse case. You'll be suing for peace....or a piece of the profit.

Have an exalt...

While themed "campaign boxes" are a fantastic idea(and something that's been suggested for about the last ten years by folk on forums but whatevs), come on, you know they'll end up being "Super-Special-Ultra-Awesome-Limited Edition buy now to avoid disappointment 2000 copies worldwide!" given GW's behaviour of late.

And before anyone posts "duh, that's stoopid, why would GW pour all that money into making moulds for plastic starter sets and then make them limited and throw it away after?"; A - Space Hulk, B - we may be getting excited over nowt and, if they do make them at all, they'll use existing plastics.

C - Dreadfleet, a product that, if rumour is to be believed, had copies destroyed rather than discounted or left to hang around and devalue the whole "ooh, limited, shiny, quick-quick" sales strategy!

It could boost the popularity of kill-team too. Enough with unbound already.

 azreal13 wrote:
C - Dreadfleet, a product that, if rumour is to be believed, had copies destroyed rather than discounted or left to hang around and devalue the whole "ooh, limited, shiny, quick-quick" sales strategy!

Wow... I don't doubt that's true; would be right up their alley.

I think part of the problem is that a "campaign pack" is going to not have a lot, it'll have some basic units or whatnot but it's not going to be very much (naturally). I do think that doing multiple campaign packs to get a variety of armies with "starter sets" would be a good idea, but it's doubtful that GW would do that. If it's $99 like DV though and has some cool looking new Wolf and/or Ork models, I could see it being worth buying since the boxed sets tend to be pretty good deals overall (albeit unbalanced in favor of the Imperium most of the time), but if it's something like a few hundred or more for some Limited Edition bullgak that just bundles a bunch of stuff together and maybe throws in an Ork special character (the one named above) then feth that.

In all honesty, this is something I can see GW doing a lot in the long run, and keeping doing it rather than having them as ltd editions. The starter sets have probably been among the best selling kits, as people buy them for all sorts of reasons, so doing a series of simple, unique sets with exclusive dataslates could essentially be 'add-on' sets that add rules and models to the game and range.

At least, I hope so. Regardless of what it means for SW afterwards, this could be pretty cool...

Space Rednecks? Man, that is a huge disappointment. If it was nearly any other SM chapter, I could work around it, but SW are pretty busy with their own iconography.... I guess we'll see if this one is true or if it's Blood Angles as some rumours from before indicated...

-C6

Could end up being a much rawer deal than people are expecting. Could just be an overpriced campaign book bundled with one or two exclusive plastic characters.

All that's left from DV on the UK site is the cultists.

Guessing there is some truth to this now.

Dare to dream. I'd kill for some sweet monopose DV or SH quality a Wolves.

If this is the start of a trend for having multiple monopose/good value starters available, that are linked to wider campaigns I'm all for it. I've bought every starter set,and would probably buy most future ones as the long as the value stayed the same. With the space that will be available on the racks in GW stores after the Hobbit departs, and GW's introduction focused selling, it makes sense.

If they are just megaforces with two armies of existing models and a bonus exclusive character (similar to the recent Ultramarines set with the Terminator Captain), I'll pass.

 catharsix wrote:
Space Rednecks? Man, that is a huge disappointment. If it was nearly any other SM chapter, I could work around it, but SW are pretty busy with their own iconography.... I guess we'll see if this one is true or if it's Blood Angles as some rumours from before indicated...

-C6

Well, the Dark Angels got their iconography encrusted models in the last Starter, and Blood Angels got theirs in Space Hulk, so it's the Wolves turn.

Now now don't be getting all excited people; we know it's just a repackaged starter with updated booklet and a 20% price increase.

 throwoff wrote:
All that's left from DV on the UK site is the cultists.

Guessing there is some truth to this now.

Same for the US site. If it is SW, I'll paint them up for my chaos warband.

I'm up for a different themed starter set every 2 years, they could really cater to a lot more armies than they have in the past.

I don't feel the same way for 100$ rulebooks, I have yet to buy the new one, and only plan on getting the small one from this box set.

Honestly I could care less what the starter set has in it i just really hope that the blood angels get their codex sooner rather than later, and by no means am I saying space wolves don't need a codex either I just think blood angels need an update more.

 midget_overlord wrote:
I'm up for a different themed starter set every 2 years, they could really cater to a lot more armies than they have in the past.

I don't feel the same way for 100$ rulebooks, I have yet to buy the new one, and only plan on getting the small one from this box set.

I was actually going to buy the book the same weekend this is supposed to come out. Going to play the wait and see game.

 catharsix wrote:
Space Rednecks?

-C6

Or Space Vikings, or Space Yiffurries depending on perspective.

As for Orks, I prefer the term "Fungus Chavs".

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 catharsix wrote:
Space Rednecks? Man, that is a huge disappointment. If it was nearly any other SM chapter, I could work around it, but SW are pretty busy with their own iconography.... I guess we'll see if this one is true or if it's Blood Angles as some rumours from before indicated...

-C6

Well, the Dark Angels got their iconography encrusted models in the last Starter, and Blood Angels got theirs in Space Hulk, so it's the Wolves turn.

Fair enough, but I think that the SW iconography, etc. is of the kind that you can't really just file off a wolf-head logo here and there. Their design is pretty comprehensive, severely limiting their use as non-SW (though the comprehensiveness of their look I could see as a strength, if I liked their look).

-C6

Told today by a gw employee. Dark vengence is no longer being re-stocked.

 Scrub wrote:
Yeah I agree with Bolognesus, I believe that Warhammer starter sets of both stripes are particularly popular.
I know a fair few casual tabletop gamers, not heavily invested into Games Workshop games that have procured lorry loads of Dark Vengeance for the models alone.

We may see more themed sets that contain unique models, done well I'm sure it would interest a lot of people and prove pretty popular, though I won't hold my breath!

Yeah and me, I spend feth all on minis, but I always love their box sets. I think I have bought about 200 bucks worth of stuff the last few years, but id be all over another box set like a tramp on a bag of chips.

I always like seeing all the new models and fluff and such, I have never been disappointed with them. AOBR, BFM, and DV were all good, plus they are the only good value things that they sell!

I disagree that Blood Angels got theirs in Space Hulk, but I would say it's fair to have SW's in a boxed set. I don't care for a few of the heads with crazy hair in the Wolves’ boxes, but that's my only complaint with them. The last couple of boxed sets have great miniatures mono-pose or not, they mix in with the other Marines quite well.

I am disappointed that BA's may not be the next thing, I've been waiting on a Codex for a while, but as long as I can still play them I'm quite happy.

I remember someone said this boxed set may have loads of terrain or some such, now that would be a bonus! With the unbound rules, a few squads of Wolves would be welcome in my army for sure! Worth having if it's true!
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Campaign boxes now to go with campaign books?

Makes you wonder why the feth GW wasn't doing this years ago. Seriously, the last time we saw stuff like this it was 2nd Ed 40K!