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Wonder if the one-and-done theory about the Chaos Cultists will ring true.

Its the problem the computer game industry has been having with day1 dlc: people don't want to pay full price for half a product and then pay extra to get what should have been included in the first place.

Hate to say it but I can see this happening under the rule of the new CEO who is going to go so much further with the splitting of content to the point where it will cost $200+ for what used to be a codex.

My theory is they will make dexes with basic choices and then fill the rest in with white dwarf, DLC and supplement must haves. Look at angels. Shield of Baal, exterminatus, white dwarf + codex is $315. Sure there is some models but that's before you even make a normal sized army.

Man, GW is on fire lately with these recent set of rumours.

I'm not even mad at this point, its just amazing the level of sheer stupidity they're going.

Tropic Thunder quote <here>.

I can believe it. Getting kicked while your down has become a Chaos players expectation.

Sorry if I appear to be really angry about this, but it's because nothing incenses me more than GW's continued bungling of Chaos over the past decade.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Sorry, if I appear to be really angry about this, but it's because nothing incenses me more than GW's continued bungling of Chaos over the past decade.

But how do you really feel?

The fury of a thousand suns (and a Thousand Sons) burns within me.

Yeah, I had curry for dinner too!

The whole Chaos line is a shambles at the moment. It just feels so hodge podge. Not Chaotic, just lazy.

I had pizza, and it was still too hot when I ate after pulling it out of the over and now my mouth hurts.

Does that count?

Oh yes, especially if a bit of cheese stretched and snapped and burned your lip when it sprung back into your face!

Get out of my house and/or head.

On topic, and somewhat serious, if this somehow turns out to be true (patting my salt shaker), I do feel bad for the Chaos players.

Like genuinely bad. Makes what happened to the IG book look nice in comparison.

 Medium of Death wrote:
The whole Chaos line is a shambles at the moment. It just feels so hodge podge. Not Chaotic, just lazy.

IA:13 is the only redeeming thing CSMs have going.

Now, take the cult marines, but give us Fire Raptors and Rapiers in the main codex, and I might not feel so violated.

Maybe Chaos will get a stupid new vehicle like the Guard... no, wait... already happened. The Dinobots.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Maybe Chaos will get a stupid new vehicle like the Guard... wait... Already happened. The Dinobots.

Oh wait, I got it! Flying Dinobots!

No, wait...that happened too.

Damn.

Sucks about the codex if that rumor comes true but for Rubric terminators I will totally jump on that dataslate goodness.

I like the dinobots!

Maybe Chaos will get a new stupid name like the Imperial Guard!

Maleficus Astartes?

Sounds about as good as Astra Militarum so yeah they'll probably be that.

H.B.M.C no need to apologise, if this is true I'm angry and I don't even play Chaos (not in 40k anyway, only in 30k). With this and the whole fantasy nonsense GW really are on top form.

 Azreal13 wrote:
I like the dinobots!

I like the one with the massive multi-barrelled cannons, but they're still kinda silly. The Komodo dragon head does nothing for me. I prefer my Daemon Engines to be a little more engine and a little less Daemon, like a living mechanical thing rather than a mechanical living thing, if you catch my meaning.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Sorry if I appear to be really angry about this, but it's because nothing incenses me more than GW's continued bungling of Chaos over the past decade.

Could be worse, you could play Dark Angels.

Dark Angels don't even need a Codex.

*pulls pin on can of worms before throwing it*

*runs*

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I prefer my Daemon Engines to be a little more engine and a little less Daemon, like a living mechanical thing rather than a mechanical living thing, if you catch my meaning.

Nicely put. Something like the Decimator, for example?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Dark Angels don't even need a Codex.

*pulls pin on can of worms before throwing it*

*runs*

*must... resist...*

DA HAD A CODEX FIRST!

*dies, screaming, covered in worms"

Ok, enough OT. This doesn't surprise me, why include Cult troops when you can get people to buy a dataslate for $35 (or whatever they're going for these days) for 5 pages of God-specific Cult rules. I would be surprised if there aren't any marks at all in the Chaos Dex. Not Khorne Berzerkers, but a mark of Khorne for the Khorne worshiping CSM that aren't World Eaters.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I prefer my Daemon Engines to be a little more engine and a little less Daemon, like a living mechanical thing rather than a mechanical living thing, if you catch my meaning.

Nicely put. Something like the Decimator, for example?

Exactly. Decimator. Defiler. Brass Scorp. Plague Drone. Things that look like machines given life via Daemonic possession rather than living creatures made all metallic and stuff (like the Dinobot does).

Guys!

Say NO to data slates!

This is the death of print and we are hopping on the bandwagon without so much as a batted eye!

Having to buy a data slate to run models you already own is heresy. Being a new player and having to buy not only the army, the books and all the other stuff no one tells you you need, is bad enough. Now we are also required to have digital device in order to play.

You fools! This is the end of all your books, the end of 40k and WFB, this is the end of accountability itself! How on earth are we to hold publishers accountable for quality of product if the product is nothing more than a few kilobytes of info, packed onto an imaginary file, stored in some ethereal realm of nothingness?!

Yeah that's great, go buy your Cult Legion data slates, moon over your dubiously secured files, arrange your models on your shelf, and next year, when GW comes out and says they will no longer print hard copy books except for all but the most distinguishing ( read: rich) of collectors, then I will laugh maniacally in your faces. You will wonder how I found out where you live, you will wonder how I got into your garage and you will wonder how I knew which model was your favourite so I could smash it with your favourite cats favourite cat toy. You will ask yourselves these questions and you will have no answers. None.

I will ride down from the heavens with righteous fury, wielding all the power of my ancestors, smiting to and fro, you will quail in terror, but I shall have no mercy. You will have destroyed, with your dimly glowing iPads, my one true obsession. And for that I shall burn you.

... I'm sorry guys. Don't know what came over me. I guess I just feel really strongly about data slates and the future of the hobby.

This kind of crap is why I stopped playing chaos. I had about 8k in iron warriors and about 5k in night lords. I got rid of it all because the chaos codexs kept letting me down.

yellowfever wrote:
This kind of crap is why I stopped playing chaos. I had about 8k in iron warriors and about 5k in night lords. I got rid of it all because the chaos codexs kept letting me down.

You should come to 30k, if you can stomach the prices

if this is really true then I hope they atleast give us vehicle dedication to chaos gods and other units that benefit more than just the mark buff from being dedicated to a certain god... I would be okay with buying 2 white dwarfs (tzeentch and nurgle for me, 4 would be rediculous if you like all gods) and a codex if there is a lot in those white dwarfs.