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2015/11/11 21:37:14
Subject: Re:Another BIG GW release?
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Lieutenant General
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2015/11/11 22:49:07
Subject: Re:Another BIG GW release?
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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Grimtuff wrote:Hastings (Man, it feels weird to write that! Anyone who knows me IRL knows why! ) already gave a the lowdown on what happened to BB in a thread on Warseer.
Hastings on Warseer wrote:There was a planned limited release of BB a while back, IIRC there were 4 teams done in plastic all individual models, however with the failure of Dreadfleet it was scrapped (or so I was told). Just another example of GWs stupidity, by equating that because "Dreadfleet" didn't sell then "Blood Bowl" wouldn't???? Well done GW because they are very equatable products, 1 being a NEW game that didn't even have the 2 opposing fleets like Man O War used to as opposed to a game with a very large fanbase still played the world over! like I said before ... finger on the pulse?
The way I understood what I was told the BB set could be played like a regular game of BB OR as kind of a campaign where a human team (1 of the 4 in box teams) played against the other 2 and then went on to face the Chaos All Stars in the final. Not sure how it would have worked but that's how it was explained to me. IIRC the teams were humans, orcs, elves and Chaos All Stars. I don't know how far along the project got as I had conflicting accounts of how many teams etc. etc. but I feel it was a hugely missed opportunity. Indeed it could have been very popular, can you imagine plastic boxes of BB teams, plastic multi part stadiums etc. etc. but nope, seems it's sadly not to be. Not to worry too much, you can get wonderful custom made pitches from F-F Fields (like my Chaos Dwarf Zufbar Ziggurats pitch) and many excellent teams from some awesome companies. GWs loss.
Heh, you beat me to posting that. Yep, GW, in it's infinite wisdom, somehow concluded from the failure of Dreadfleet that the community didn't want a 25th anniversary release of Blood Bowl.
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"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks |
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2015/11/11 23:07:07
Subject: Re:Another BIG GW release?
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Fixture of Dakka
West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA
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What are you all babbling about?
Obviously noone wants to play any of the GW specialist games, judging by the complete lack of other companies making anything similar to Blood Bowl or Battlefleet Gothic, over a decade or more later. Especially not by any company paying ex-GW employees who wrote those exact games to write a similar one for them, and then using that pedigree as a main selling point.....
Nope, zero interest, just like GW tells us, even as they license computer games specifically modelled after those games.
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should." |
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2015/11/11 23:31:35
Subject: Re:Another BIG GW release?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Maryland
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Vermis wrote: legoburner wrote:Blood bowl set in the AoS universe would be quite interesting as it is one thing where I think the fluff could actually be better than the WHFB fluff which always bugged me a bit where teams had free access to major stadiums in major cities of enemy factions - it was all a bit extreme on the suspension-of-disbelief stakes. As much as blood bowl can fit into any sort of construct of course
When you're right, you're right. Well, technically the world of Blood Bowl is different than the one of WHFB. They basically go along with the same plot until two armies stumble across an ancient temple (with a strange, rectangular center and rows of seats all facing inwards) that turns out to contain a holy book of a god called Nuffle that's rules for a game. All the races like it so much that they stop having wars and instead use Blood Bowl teams to decide conflicts. And then they enjoy the game so much that the conflict bit gets ignored when sponsorships come around. It's a world where a farmer from Altdorf can sit down between a Elf and a Chaos Warrior, and the three of them will all have the same team jersey on and be booing at the guys on the other side of the pitch, and then head out for some McMurtys afterwards.
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2015/11/11 23:31:57
Subject: Re:Another BIG GW release?
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Ultramarine Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Oh, but you see, the profit margin on casting tiny metal spaceships to use with free rules that have existed for years might only be 20%. Why would anyone want 20% profit when you could crank out the 1000th iteration of a space marine and make 50% profit off direct order plastic sprues and barely-changed codex (now in hardback!)?
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Battlefleet Gothic ships and markers at my store, GrimDarkBits:
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2015/11/11 23:38:56
Subject: Re:Another BIG GW release?
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Posts with Authority
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infinite_array wrote: Vermis wrote:
legoburner wrote:Blood bowl set in the AoS universe would be quite interesting as it is one thing where I think the fluff could actually be better than the WHFB fluff which always bugged me a bit where teams had free access to major stadiums in major cities of enemy factions - it was all a bit extreme on the suspension-of-disbelief stakes. As much as blood bowl can fit into any sort of construct of course
When you're right, you're right.
Well, technically the world of Blood Bowl is different than the one of WHFB.
They basically go along with the same plot until two armies stumble across an ancient temple (with a strange, rectangular center and rows of seats all facing inwards) that turns out to contain a holy book of a god called Nuffle that's rules for a game. All the races like it so much that they stop having wars and instead use Blood Bowl teams to decide conflicts. And then they enjoy the game so much that the conflict bit gets ignored when sponsorships come around.
It's a world where a farmer from Altdorf can sit down between a Elf and a Chaos Warrior, and the three of them will all have the same team jersey on and be booing at the guys on the other side of the pitch, and then head out for some McMurtys afterwards.
And thus was peace found upon the Warhammer World....
Sad truth, I would actually have been more interested in Warhammer: Age of BloodBowl than in Warhammer: Age of Sigmar....
The Auld Grump - though I fear me that the next big thing could be Warhammer 40,0000: Age of the Emperor*....
* Actually, I fear that less than I did when AoS came out - the lack of enthusiasm that has greeted AoS will likely be the saving of 40K. And I think that 30K may be the first really good move that GW has made in quite some time, if the rules pan out.
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Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.
The reason I bought rules and became a real wargamer was because I wanted a properly thought out structure to govern the action instead of just making things up as I went along. |
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2015/11/11 23:51:18
Subject: Re:Another BIG GW release?
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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I can't be the only one that doesn't hate the Sigmarine models, can I? If nothing else, their paints worked out very well for my Sanguinary Guard and the gold parts on all of my other models. If they made rules that were actually good, I wouldn't be opposed to buying some.
Hopefully that ends up being the case. Maybe fans will come out with something if they haven't already.
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2015/11/12 00:36:45
Subject: Another BIG GW release?
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Norn Queen
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I'd assume it's got something to do with the LotR stuff moving to a specialist studio. If it's going to affect sales channels, then training for sales reps is something they'd need to do.
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2015/11/12 00:39:10
Subject: Re:Another BIG GW release?
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Fixture of Dakka
West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA
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I do like them in an "Asguardian superhuman soldiers that have a dark side to their existance" way.
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should." |
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2015/11/12 03:07:52
Subject: Another BIG GW release?
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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I think we have a winner here.
I can't believe there'd be another major release a few weeks after HH that we have heard nothing about.
That being said, no one's mentioned that it will be plastic Battle Sisters?
I think it's plastic Battle Sisters.
I mean surely, it's time now no?
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2015/11/12 03:14:20
Subject: Re:Another BIG GW release?
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Lieutenant General
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Nah. It'll be plastic Sisters of Sigmar
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2015/11/12 04:01:22
Subject: Another BIG GW release?
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:That being said, no one's mentioned that it will be plastic Battle Sisters? I think it's plastic Battle Sisters. I mean surely, it's time now no? Plastic Cadians first Kid. Never forget!
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2015/11/12 04:05:30
Subject: Another BIG GW release?
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Dankhold Troggoth
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Are these two things connected?
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/670148.page
Not to split discussion, just wondering - seems like a bit much of a coincidence for there to be a special training, and then all of a sudden GW (could be) acknowledging the existence of their specialist games again and actually trying to somewhat support / sell them.
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2015/11/12 04:10:14
Subject: Another BIG GW release?
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Lieutenant General
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RiTides wrote:Are these two things connected?
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/670148.page
Not to split discussion, just wondering - seems like a bit much of a coincidence for there to be a special training, and then all of a sudden GW (could be) acknowledging the existence of their specialist games again and actually trying to somewhat support / sell them.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2015/11/12 04:32:12
Subject: Another BIG GW release?
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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H.B.M.C. wrote: Kid_Kyoto wrote:That being said, no one's mentioned that it will be plastic Battle Sisters?
I think it's plastic Battle Sisters.
I mean surely, it's time now no?
Plastic Cadians first Kid. Never forget!
Split the difference? Plastic female Cadians?
Sculpted by Victoria Lamb?
Anyway... I would not have high hopes about the return of Specialist Games. If this is just happening now I'd say we're a year or more from their first release, and who knows what it would be. Taking Blood Bowl off the shelf seems the likely move, companies hate to see development money go to waste, so no, I don't see any Epic or Mordheim or Necromunda coming anytime soon.
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2015/11/12 04:46:52
Subject: Another BIG GW release?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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2015/11/12 04:50:40
Subject: Another BIG GW release?
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Lieutenant General
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LucidNinja wrote:https://scontent.fadl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12227101_854745547957889_819922273771873564_n.png?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=61fc474a348bae3c35df86b8c39d4d5c&oe=56EF81E8
I hope that works...
:-D
Already posted in the other thread linked in RiTides post.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2015/11/12 04:55:18
Subject: Another BIG GW release?
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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Maybe if whoever made that awful default MS Paint size image could spell words properly...
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2015/11/12 05:37:22
Subject: Another BIG GW release?
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Swamp Troll
San Diego
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LucidNinja wrote:https://scontent.fadl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12227101_854745547957889_819922273771873564_n.png?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=61fc474a348bae3c35df86b8c39d4d5c&oe=56EF81E8
I hope that works...
:-D
Could you link to the actual facebook post? I'd like to be able to verify where that's from vs just some random facebook attachment if it's all the same
As to it being a crappy MS Paint image.. I've seen plenty of office memos that had spelling errors and were done in paint by some non-graphic artist. Given GW's tendency to fire their competent artists, I think that's a feasible scenario. Time will ultimately tell though either way and I don't feel like we'll have long to wait on this one.
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2015/11/12 05:40:20
Subject: Another BIG GW release?
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Sinister Chaos Marine
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MLaw wrote:LucidNinja wrote:https://scontent.fadl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12227101_854745547957889_819922273771873564_n.png?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=61fc474a348bae3c35df86b8c39d4d5c&oe=56EF81E8
I hope that works...
:-D
Could you link to the actual facebook post? I'd like to be able to verify where that's from vs just some random facebook attachment if it's all the same
As to it being a crappy MS Paint image.. I've seen plenty of office memos that had spelling errors and were done in paint by some non-graphic artist. Given GW's tendency to fire their competent artists, I think that's a feasible scenario. Time will ultimately tell though either way and I don't feel like we'll have long to wait on this one.
https://www.facebook.com/GWBelconnen/photos/a.672758389489940.1073741829.660073050758474/854745547957889/?type=3
It's also mentioned on several other store pages that I've seen.
https://www.facebook.com/GWLaunceston/posts/451295141739731
https://www.facebook.com/GWHobart/posts/407315386134245
https://www.facebook.com/GWGeelong/posts/1687435674805333
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2015/11/12 06:04:47
Subject: Another BIG GW release?
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Dakka Veteran
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RiTides wrote:Are these two things connected?
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/670148.page
Not to split discussion, just wondering - seems like a bit much of a coincidence for there to be a special training, and then all of a sudden GW (could be) acknowledging the existence of their specialist games again and actually trying to somewhat support / sell them.
Yep, seems logical. FW changing it's role, transfer of LOTR stuff and potential appearance of several returning SG's is certainly something that would require training for the sales reps.
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2015/11/12 06:14:31
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Fixture of Dakka
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prowla wrote: RiTides wrote:Are these two things connected?
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/670148.page
Not to split discussion, just wondering - seems like a bit much of a coincidence for there to be a special training, and then all of a sudden GW (could be) acknowledging the existence of their specialist games again and actually trying to somewhat support / sell them.
Yep, seems logical. FW changing it's role, transfer of LOTR stuff and potential appearance of several returning SG's is certainly something that would require training for the sales reps.
Yeah, I suspect they are related Related... rumors... anyhow We can but hope.
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2015/11/12 06:20:39
Subject: Another BIG GW release?
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Swamp Troll
San Diego
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Thanks much
Well, that's certainly encouraging!
The image looks amateurish because it's one of the shop guys doing an unofficial flyer to build hype. Reminds me of the better days already
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2015/11/12 09:00:24
Subject: Another BIG GW release?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Yeah it's shop managers work and apologies for the spelling etc already been made... I'm stoked I played epic in store for my first game when I was like 8, now I can play it again woo!
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2015/11/12 09:10:11
Subject: Another BIG GW release?
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Dankhold Troggoth
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Since the two things really do seem to be connected, so we don't fracture the conversation let's consolidate everything into this thread:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/670148.page
See you over there
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