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Side note, In all my internet travels and discussions across the net, this is the only venue where I have heard anything ill of MWC


I'm sure you are aware of the stuff written about Matt or Redstarone though, it's all over the place. It's not just Dakka. Perhaps there isn't much negative about MWC elsewhere, but Matt has rather tried to disguise his involvement so many probably aren't aware of the connection.
   
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If he's ones of Matts friends, then he's just another mouthpiece for the Redstarone scam machine. Seen this happen so many times since this all kicked off. Matt just seems to have a line of folks willing to help him do what he does.

I've never had contact with Matt btw, but I've followed the story ever since the original Transaction report went up against redstarone here on Dakka, and I respect a number of those folks he's scammed. Here and elsewhere and fully believe the greater community should stand up against folks like him and alert others.

He might still scam the odd person, but going on how threads have appeared on here, Warseer, Heresy, it is a trail he is unable to shake in the long run. Hopefully eventually he'll scam the wrong person and get the full weight of the law thrown at him. Until then, I am quite sure there are a fair few voices willing to stand up against him.

Regardless of anything else Dakka is still one of the biggest Wargamming fan sites on the net, and going on how angry I've seen Matt post, he doesn't like the fact such a vocal site is eager to call him out whenever they can. As with all conmen, being out in the open and associated with your shady deals is not a good place to be.

Long may that annoyance plague him.

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Lt. Coldfire, for the record I haven't been scammed by Matt- my contact was originally made with Miniature Wargame Conversions because I was helping track down Alpharius' items.

LuckyNo.5- Matt is the founder, and he's pretended to be contributors who don't exist via email and phone messages- I have them and am willing to share them with you. Matt doesn't post on the site under his own handle- he posts as "Miniature Wargame Conversions". I would indeed be suspicious if yakface were instead posting as "Dakka Dakka" on his own website.

As others have mentioned, the bad press about Matthew Bonder is on many sites and not just DakkaDakka. MagickalMemories has been in this thread and I'm sure can link you to the threads on Bartertown about him. There are many others, as well...

I can understand your defending an online friend who you won a prize from, but what I don't understand is not looking at the evidence before doing so. It took me a long time of communicating with your website before I started this thread. Only AFTER I started it did Matt confirm to me via email that I was now communicating with him and no longer with the mysterious contributors "Jeff" and "Damien". That's why the site is involved... because Matt involved it by communicating with me as "Miniature Wargame Conversions".

This is also his handle on the blog. If he were to openly list himself on the contributors page, and post under his own handle "RedStarOne", I'd have MUCH less of a problem with the site. That way, people would have a better chance of knowing who they're dealing with. As it is, he's hidden behind the site, and that makes it extremely dangerous, along with any giveaways the site does. There's a reason he abandoned his "Conversion Corner" website, and the handle "RedStarOne"... they are stained by the exposing of his prior scams, and he needed a new identity. How can you not see that the site is giving him credibility And anonymity simultaneously, and how that is dangerous...?

Also, I still don't understand why you haven't responded to the idea of talking to Mike at Showcase Comics, which is in the Philadelphia area. He can vouch for what we're saying here, if you just don't trust anything you read online... even though it's All over the web about Matthew Bonder / RedStarOne, not just on DakkaDakka. If that's your reason, why not just talk to him? He's been in business a long time and is as reputable as they come in this hobby.

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Any legal update/ ideas?

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People never cease to amaze me. Most of the MWC-"Mathew Bonder" supporters that have posted here all have the same attitude of refusing to view or even acknowledge the existence of evidence that turns into angry posts when they are asked about why. The excuses range from "disbelieving what I read", Internet people aren't real people, Mathew is a wonderful person who has done good, Mathew hasn't wronged me so why should I care?, etc.

To validate MWC and Mathew Bonder I have seen links to Blogs that no longer exist or have just been started with only 1 post on them, people claiming that they are legit and post on MWC so it is legit as well, and several others.

Several of the defenders only just got started in blogging and have little to no background. Attitudes are similar to each other and to Mathew Bonder's past rants when called out. Even some of the names of bloggers are similar to Mathew's many previous forum aliases.

The defense excuse of MWC doesn't sell or take money is a poor defense, as it really does not address the issue of Mathew Bonder's past actions. His link to the MWC is the fact that he started it. Trying to keep the two separate is impossible. MWC is a scam site by this fact. To defend it is foolish. It does not matter at all that every other person who posts, contributes, wins may be completely legit. The founder is a proven criminal who steals product and money from people. The evidence of this is spread over numerous sites. Several of the people he has stolen from have reputable names in this hobby.

Why is this so hard for so many people to understand? I am left with one of two conclusions...First, Mathew Bonder has set up an elaborate support network of fake blogs and forum names to support his illegal activities. I have seen things like this in the past so I cannot discount this theory. The second is just that people amaze me. I will not elaborate on this as it would be a violation of the forum rules. Either way, I truly hope to see the MWC site shut down as it exists only as a cover for Mathew Bonders criminal activities and I really hope that the people scammed by him are able to get the evidence needed together and pursue a course of action that will see bonder in jail.

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Shepherd23 wrote:People never cease to amaze me. Most of the MWC-"Mathew Bonder" supporters that have posted here all have the same attitude of refusing to view or even acknowledge the existence of evidence


The fact that they are associating with a criminal, scam-artist, robber piece of filth is reason enough to avoid their site.

However I think it is the dismissive, flip and arrogant attitude evident in their posts that would turn me off from their site even if I wanted to ignore the massive mountain of evidence against Bonder.

Not only will I avoid their site and dealings with anyone associated with them, but I will tell my many gaming/hobby associates to do same...

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Shepherd23 wrote:Why is this so hard for so many people to understand? I am left with one of two conclusions...First, Mathew Bonder has set up an elaborate support network of fake blogs and forum names to support his illegal activities

Personally I reckon this is the case. Bonder has been known to use multiple aliases in the past as well as the dubious existence of "Jeff" and "Damien". It’s too much of a coincidence IMO to have multiple people post in the identical confrontational posting style.

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LuckyNo.5 wrote:
RiTides wrote:Matt started and owns the site... instead of posting on it under his own name, he posts on it as "Miniature Wargame Conversions" . That is extremely Not transparent about his involvement, and with good reason...


Um so is the owner of Dakka Dakka actually named Dakka Dakka? Is Rtides your real name?
Here, this might be of help. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudonym#Computer_users


Well, most people do have an online handle that they use. I didn't register my real name on DakkaDakka, but I have used d-usa as my handle for quite a while and it is pretty much my online name as far as my identity is concerned. I use it as my handle on forums, in IRC, email, and my website. Not using your established online identity when doing online business does come across as shady to most online users.

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Whatever name is being used on the internet doesn't matter. The fact that you have wonderful content and great prizes in your raffles doesn't matter either. All of these thing obfuscate the fact, by deflection, that the site is run by a criminal. Mathew Bonder is a known and proven criminal. He is the sole individual who started MWC and is the primary person responsible for starting this whole raffle business in the first place. Given his history, the purpose of MWC is to start yet another round of scamming again.

The fact that all of you who defend the site and Mathew do not understand why so many people believe this is boggling. If Mathew Bonder was truly trying to give something back to the miniature gaming community then why did he not start by giving the promised products that he stole? Why did he not return the money he stole first? Instead he started a site that will put him in position to start scamming again.

The fact that he started selling his titans on the site is proof of this. I know that the original posting about them is gone now, but it does not change the fact that he WAS trying to sell on the site that all of you are trying to convince people is not for selling anything.

Several of you have stated that you have heard Mathews side of this sad story as well, but no one has actually explained it. Please do. If all of the people who believe him to be a criminal are wrong then please show us. Stop pimping the site. Stop threatening to kick peoples arse. Stop calling us names and all the rest and actually show us why we are wrong. Give us his side of the tale that you have heard. The dead and/or dying wife and child? The product in a mystery storage locker in another city? Whatever you have that explains why numerous people have never received their promised products.

Until a logical reason is given to explain all of this, I am afraid that you are going to have to except that people like us are going to continue to try to prevent Mathew Bonder from continuing his current endeavors as we believe it is just another attempt to scam people out of further products and money. No one has given us any reason to believe otherwise.

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LuckyNo.5 wrote:
RiTides wrote:It'd be really easy to find out the people who Matt ripped off, and to make amends... Without doing that, running contests and giving away prizes is a hollow gesture, at best, and at worse giving credibility to Matt for when he makes his next scam


Man you are a dense fella. MWC IS NOT JUST MATT. last time I'm saying it. Aside from that all I'm see is one persons word against another and a lot of online rabbal rousing.


Lucky, I don't think you're understanding the point people are making here. it may be because you're not looking at it from the right p.o.v., or it might be because they're not saying it properly. Let me try to rephrase it.

MWC is a site owned and operated by Matthew Bonder. Mr. Bonder is well known amongst the online gaming community at large and widely considered a scam artist. In the eyes of most of us, there have been enough accusations supported with proof to convince us.

You state the "good" things that Matthew/the site has done and refute our claims by declaring that the site is a group of bloggers, rather than just one man.
Let me ask you a few questions.
If 4 or 5 bloggers on the site had a problem with Matthew, got into a pretty ugly argument and they -as well as Matthew- determined that they needed to split ways (he and that group), what would happen? Would those bloggers have the opportunity to boot Matthew from the site, as the majority, or would Matthew have the sole authority to remove those bloggers? What if every other member of the site unanimously agreed with that group? Could Matthew then be removed, or would they be forced to sever ties by leaving (or being removed from) the site?
If the majority of users cannot overrule ONE, then it is indeed HIS site and the rest of the users are no more than mouth pieces. If, collectively, the rest of you do not have the "power" to remove Matthew from the site, then it is HIS site, and he simply allows you to post there. THAT does not support your comment that, "MWC IS NOT JUST MATT."

On Bartertown, our Lead Admin goes by the handle Linrandir. Short of the site owner, there is nobody on the site who outranks him. In my experiences with him over the years, I know his reputation to be above reproach. If, however, he was ever shown to have a character defect that shined a similar light on him as has been shined on Bonder, there is a higher power. The site owner could be approached with proof. I truly believe that Linrandir -who is, for all intents and purposes the "main man" on the site- would be booted in a heartbeat if it was shown that he was scamming members. The same goes for ANY staff member.
Furthermore, such is the integrity of the rest of the staff that none of us would want to be associated with anyone with such a reputation. Should one of us do something as Bonder has, the rest of us would treat him as we would any other scammer.
My point? The site, as a whole, would want NOT to be associated with anyone with such a record, regardless who he is. The same does not seem to be the case for the people who blog on Matthew's site.


Here is another question for you; How many MWC members have you had contact with online? How many in person? You see, Matthew has a proven history of misrepresenting his identity. I'm not referring to the little fiasco with RiTides. I'm going back even before that. He has been shown in the past to use the anonymity of the internet to create false identities. In reality, you have no true idea of knowing just how many of these bloggers are, in actuality, Matthew Bonder.


RiTides wrote: MagickalMemories has been in this thread and I'm sure can link you to the threads on Bartertown about him. There are many others, as well...


Those reports are easily located for anyone who chooses to look for them. I'd gladly round them up here but, frankly, I don't want to waste my time doing so.
If Lucky tells me he'll read each report in it's entirety, I'll go gather them up and post some links. Otherwise, for those interested.... www.bartertown.com - Visit the "Bad Trader Reports" section.


To be fair, for those calling Matthew a criminal; As much as I BELIEVE he is guilty (Admittedly, though I'd love to be a fly on that wall, I'd have to excuse myself from Jury duty on this one LOL), he IS just an "Accused Criminal" until someone steps forward and follows this through the legal channels.

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The simple fact is, a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. It doesn't matter how good the rest of a website's crew is when it's primary association is with a known liar and thief.

 
   
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I agree, Portugal. But, in this case, I think you missed the mark a little.
It's not about the crew being associated with a regularly accused thief and liar. It's about the site OWNER being one. Every other member of the site posts there SOLELY at the discretion of Matthew, and he could cut them off at any time, for any reason.

Eric

Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11 
   
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I have his address... er well at least the one he posted to someone that never received their models... Checking it on Google Maps now

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candy.man wrote:
Shepherd23 wrote:Why is this so hard for so many people to understand? I am left with one of two conclusions...First, Mathew Bonder has set up an elaborate support network of fake blogs and forum names to support his illegal activities

Personally I reckon this is the case. Bonder has been known to use multiple aliases in the past as well as the dubious existence of "Jeff" and "Damien". It’s too much of a coincidence IMO to have multiple people post in the identical confrontational posting style.


Yes, but Lucky No.5's posts aren't littered with 4th grade spelling errors. Makes me think he's legit.

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SlaveToDorkness wrote:
candy.man wrote:
Shepherd23 wrote:Why is this so hard for so many people to understand? I am left with one of two conclusions...First, Mathew Bonder has set up an elaborate support network of fake blogs and forum names to support his illegal activities

Personally I reckon this is the case. Bonder has been known to use multiple aliases in the past as well as the dubious existence of "Jeff" and "Damien". It’s too much of a coincidence IMO to have multiple people post in the identical confrontational posting style.


Yes, but Lucky No.5's posts aren't littered with 4th grade spelling errors. Makes me think he's legit.



That was my thought too, and at least for the most part according to MWC's website, they provided a picture of Lucky. But many of those things can be faked on the internet, but I'm of a similar mind to SlaveToDorkness... Lucky seems legit, and if his own personal blog is legit, he's got some skill. It's sad that RSO is polluting my opinion of this work:


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LuckyNo.5 isn't RedstarOne? I would have bet money on that. I thought they were the same person. Kid seems like an alt account trying to up his burned reputation. I regularly post on a fitness forum, one of the major user's name is "Nattygraham" an obvious steroid user. The guy has made an entire fan club of a dozen or more alternate accounts with fake pictures to up his "reputation" that he's natural.

It would be amusing to see Matt at a large event. I wonder how he acts in person to accusations/generally pissed off people.

   
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Well LuckyNo5 does not have the anger issues that characterized the other few accounts that were defending RedstarOne. The other accounts all had similar confrontational styles.

Is there any way to get this sort of thread tied into Google? Preferably as the first or second result? It might help to get the message out there.

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Well, right now this thread is the 4th result on Google, so that is not bad.
   
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http://www.dcm.com/team-matthew-bonner.php

I thought this was amusing a twisted sort of way. I know the last name is spelt differently, but still.... =o]

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Edit, matthew bonder/redstarone the first linky is dakka. =o]

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FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:http://www.dcm.com/team-matthew-bonner.php

I thought this was amusing a twisted sort of way. I know the last name is spelt differently, but still.... =o]

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Edit, matthew bonder/redstarone the first linky is dakka. =o]

Wow, that is pretty funny! (In a twisted way, as you say)

For the second point- Matthew Bonder / Redstarone are pretty much burned by now, the problem is "Matt from MWC" looking so credible. Hopefully, this thread does come up near the top for "Miniature Wargame Conversions" for a while... but unfortunately, I believe when I first had to search for his site in the summer, it didn't come up at the top when that was entered, and now it does (although this thread is close behind it).

   
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Some ghosts just won't die!
I was also scammed by RSO/Matt Bonder.
I never received my final services/work paid for, but settled for lesser amounts to be done with it.
And a special thank you to mr. Justin Wu of GG. he sent me a shadowsword kit to pay final RSOs debt.
I know he is viewed in a negative light by some, but he promised to make matt's wrong, right. he came
through in the end. Matt told me he had compensated JW for the shadowsword, but none ever came.
finally JW just sent it after he received his stock order. to the best of my knowledge JW still hasn't been
paid.

A bit of a fun story. i live Oklahoma. in 2010 we took our kids to Sea World San Antonio. On the way home
i surprised him by popping in. he was suposed to be in Ar. according to his latest set of email lies. Someone was
in his appartment, but wouldn't answer the door. after about 5 min, a suv pulled up and a bearded wildman jumped
out and stated he was Michael and asked if he could help me? i said sure, get matt to give my cash or =. He said he'd
handle it if RSO didn't. Michael was the one at this time of matt's messes that was supposed to be mailing peoples items
for matt because of him being out of state. turns out this joker was matt's stepdad. I called him repeatedly before he completely
RSOed out and stopped responding to my requests for resolution.

Redtheconversionist
Redstarone
Redstarone22
Redstarone222
MWC
Matt bonder
are all ways i've heard him mentioned.
I have his address and phone # somewhere.
I've tried to forget him and the nightmare it was dealing with him.

I would like to add 2 more things.

He gives alot of people with good hearts, skills and vision bad names.
After my ordeal, i was lucky enough to find a gent in my state that does fantastic work.
If he hadn't been local, i may have missed out on helping him make a living, and me getting
quality work done.

and secondly, thank you RiTides for this. unfortunately the saying there's one born every minute
is too true. new people are getting into this hobby all the time. it's so easy for him to find someone
new to take advantage of. awareness like this won't help everyone. but if it saves 1 person then it helps.

I donated to the Alpharius fund and plan to do so again around tax time (Come on W2s!).
I think this is the best way to help the community that has been wronged. i'd love for RSO
to pay Alpharius back personally, but we are mortal. subject to aging. we'll never see it in our lifetimes.

sorry for the book!

EDIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The plot seems to have thickened!!
Not making any money selling items? http://www.ebay.com/itm/40k-Warhammer-Forge-World-Space-Marine-MK3-Iron-Armor-Torso-1-NEW-BITS-/120840055350?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c22a0ea36

Which i found linked from this: http://www.reddit.com/user/MiniatureWargameCo/submitted/

It's MWC for sure. Whoever that ebay seller is lives in Dallas. Seems a bit of a stretch that someone linked to MWC in Dallas isn't RSO.
And seeing as he's selling ebay items, linked through MWC, i think it's time for some answers. I though he wasn't selling anything with connections to MWC?
Maybe i'm just missing something. that's got to be it. I'm sure it's due to illness.....

EDIT 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After my post i received this little gem:

"From: Red the Conversionist
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 1:23 AM
To: Minton Family
Subject: Fwd: Are you joking me?



You werent paid back in full? You are a straight liar rick. Yu had no god damn right to post any of the stuff you did. Justin and I work together daily. You got every single thing back Rick and then a tank to cover the "messups" in a table top quality paint job you didnt like after I had fixed 2 previous batches.

I was your f***ing friend rick. I listened to all your s**t. Then you have you turn on me and now even 2 years later go out of your way to talk bs lies!?!"

Seems he's a fan of this thread and checking on it often! Which saves me the hastle of writing him back to tell him send all the frakin' butthurt emails he wants.
I'll just repost them here.

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Yeah, I blocked his email address when I started this thread- tired of dealing with his innumerable lies/excuses/etc privately, and would rather just get the facts out there for everyone to see.

The ebay seller (which also has an ebay store) is interesting. Could you link to the exact page where you found the link from? It's probably been moved/deleted already, though... the original link shows a list of Reddit links to MWC, but I'm not sure which one leads to the ebay page.



   
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Let's avoid jumping to any conclusions here (i.e., this is Not a witch hunt) but I'd like to thoroughly discount the possibility of that ebay account being Matt's.

It links to a previous account of "lord.sepius" who is also a user on Dakka. I got a PM from them just now, I guess about 7 a.m. Dallas time. I'm going to post it here for the sake of figuring this all out... again, I'd like to emphasize that people Not jump to conclusions. I also just received a PM from Sekai saying they've dealt with "double.your.bits" with no problems.

My possible issue is with the turn-around time on this response, and the language in the PM (particularly the last section, underline mine). Here it is:

Lord.Serpius wrote:I was browsing the Discussion Area the other day and came across the post you made about a scammer from my home city of Dallas. Long story short, I was keeping up with it to see if he was local to any game stores I attended or if anyone I personally knew, knew of him as well.

But now, there is a problem I just noticed.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/300/408906.page#3822122

That person links to my own personal ebay account that Ive been using here on Dakka to sell to people for going on 5-6 months.

I am in no way linked to Mr Bonder or his site. For someone to carelessly post my own ebay account is plain wrong.

A bit about myself. I'm a 57 year old woman who games with my only son who is 24. I have raised him by myself all my life. I started doing this ebay side work with his help so his hobby wouldn't be so much. All it takes is 1-2 people to screw up my ebay store that ive worked very hard at to have a perfect rating. I am very concerned that this will happen with people from your forum and that thread coming to my store and thinking I'm Mr Bonder ion the hopes to hurt my store. I have confirmed who I am to ebay and paypal many times even going so far as to fax in my DL and many other documents.

I am willing to do the same to you to show I am not Mr Bonder or linked to his site in any what so ever.

I am going to ask Lord.Serpius to go ahead and fax me their Driver's License if that is what they are willing to do. My problem with this, again Not jumping to any conclusions, is:

1. How quickly I received this PM, followed by a PM of support from another user. This is very similar to how Matt responds when accused. I'll ask the other user if they were asked to PM me by Lord.Serpius.

2. The identifying line at the end of the PM giving their story, which doesn't seem to match a previous post (see below).

3. The comment about faxing Ebay a Driver's License. Do people have to do this?

4. Coincidentally, is it possible that Matt is 24? Gives a great excuse to be communicating on behalf of the mother...

I also found this post, which I thought could be relevant. The underline in the quote is mine:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/401399.page

Lord.Serpius wrote:I have ordered alot of FW stuff in the past. Almost all of what I order is white, to a light grey. In one of my first orders, the resin was an olive green. On sprues, just like FW stuff, no defects, no bubbles, in fact better quality then the stuff they send now a days.

So if I go and try to sell them, will people that dont realize I bought them direct from FW, who even says color on resin can change from time to time based on filler material, does that mean Im going to get called out as a recaster? Has anyone else gotten kits with various color resin?

ive done a few google searches and have found many cases where people get large kits and each part is a various shade of white/grey/olive light green.

Since I plan to sell them as im getting out of the hobby, will i take flak from people that dont know FW does, especially in the past, have items of various shades of resin.

Im actually worried because my record on ebay is perfect as ive been selling the newer stuff (the stuff made in china) and have been scared to list the older stuff as its color is different.

Side by side with the new stuff there is not a single difference besides the fact the older stuff thats light green is much better quality with no defects at all. Hell, the sprue clippings are in the exact same spot.

I have seen recasts and these are nothing like it. Im simply worried someone will claim they are if I try to sell them.

And yes, I have pics side by side of exactly the same parts just different shades of colors which show zero defects and also show the better quality then the new stuff. I can provide the pictures if that helps at all.

Other then the color variations, the quality, size and sprues are exactly the same. No defects or miscasts at all.


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And no this is not a way to hype sales. I wont even give my seller name here. I have just lurked for a long time and since there are so many experts here on FW, I thought it best to ask as I dont want to ruin my ebay account based on real products being called out as recasts.

Wanting to make sure their FW items weren't considered recasts, and saying they're selling to get out of the hobby... not selling to support their son's hobby.

And in posts advertising their sales:

Lord.Serpius wrote:I have 2 seller accounts. Feedback for the first account can be seem here:

Feedback has just started on the new account but the great feedback ive gotten for genuine FW items over my personal account can show there is no risk, super fast shipping, great packing and heck i even take a 1-2 dollar loss on each shipping.

All FW bits and kits are in perfect condition, no defects, no miscasts, and are ready for painting. I always ship very quickly and also ship within 24 hours. My feedback speaks for itself.

This is your chance to get them shipped within 24 hours of the sale being completed. No extra FW shipping fees, or the extra express shipping fee that still takes 5-7 working days.

Additional pics can be provided as a direct emaill if you feel nervous as the prices are lower then retail and others listed on ebay..

My current auctions at my original account with perfect feedback and shipping with 24 hours can be seen here: http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=lord.serpius&ftab=AllFeedback&sspagename=STRK:MEFSX:FDBK

And my current auctions at my new seller account: http://www.ebay.com/sch/great.hobby.bits/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686

Again, what concerns me is some of the language. Also the storyline- the first post I quoted says they're selling FW because they are getting out of the hobby, but now they are a consistent FW seller and a 57 year-old woman who is supporting their son's hobby. There is also the question of FW resin color, along with the language in the ebay listing about bits not being shipped with the FW block. That makes sense to save on shipping costs- however, recast items would also not have the block. And if you were doing so, it'd make sense to ask about the color of the resin...

Anyway, Please, Please don't jump to any conclusions. But if people want to research it more, I'd like to confirm that this ebay seller is not Matthew Bonder. I'll be asking for their ID, since they offered... but that is just really odd since Matt always offered the same thing. I've also PM'ed them letting them know I am putting my thoughts in this thread and inviting them to respond here if they wish.

If it turns out I'm dead wrong, I'll post here and apologize... but there are a lot of suspicious things with this ebay account and communication so far that I would like to look at before making a conclusion one way or the other.

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Hi, yes eBay and paypal both had me verify myself with a fax to the both with my DL, my divorce documents from when my last name changed back to my maiden name.

I am willing to give you whatever you'd like to show you who I am.

As for the turn around time that concerns you, I am leaving for work in 25 minutes. I always surf the net a bit before I go. Today I wanted to see what update was here on Mr Bonder. As I mentioned he lives in my city and I've always been curious about this huge monster of a thread.

Seki, sorry I cant spell his name, has bought items from my store. If you also look at my past posts in swap, another member here mentioned how fast I ship.

Now to say I recast is wrong. Look at my feedback. Not one single complaint on quality. I also keep every single invoice from FW for tax reasons. Should I send you those to? I must admit, this is pretty out there that someone comes in and claims im a known thief when my feedback on all 3 of my accounts shows I'm not.

Just got your reply RiTides and yes, please PM me the fax number.

My reasons for selling are my own.

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I appreciate the response Lord.Serpius, and I'll send you the fax number. However, once again your storyline concerns me. You PM'ed me this:

Lord.Serpius wrote:Hi, I replied in the thread when I saw you posted there before here.

I would love the fax number as I'm not Mr Bonder. I'm not even a man! Hah.

I do want to point out this will hurt my sales. If eve 1 of the people in that thread think I am Mr Bonder, buys an item then gives me positive feedback but leaves me even 1 star, i get limited then shut down. This is my income. Im retired and this is what pays the bills. It would be very upsetting if I take backlash from a person I don't even know.

Susan

Why are you going to work on a Sunday if you're retired?

Also from Sekai:

Sekai wrote:I just noticed the thread, they seemed to be pretty cool peoples, said she was a mother with a 13 year old son who played. Whether that is true or not, not for me to say, just letting you know.

I don't want to put too much personal information out here in the thread, but there are conflicting storylines here...

I'll PM you the fax number but I can't receive a fax until Monday since it's a work fax.

I also want to reiterate that I am not concluding anything- just trying to close the holes in the storyline (as I see it) before concluding one way or the other. I will definitely apologize here if it turns out I am completely off-base in the questions raised... but so far the storylines don't match up from your various communications (the post on Dakka saying you're selling to get out of the hobby, the post to me saying you're a 57 year-old woman selling to support your 24 year-old son, and the information from Sekai saying he was told you had a 13-year-old son).

   
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Give me one minute and I will post a picture to prove I don't recast! My original post was for old FW stuff I had gotten in a trade that I never sold. Here is my proof I don't recast.

I work at my local Church doing Charity if you must know.

Pic In bound.

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What about the posting, using first person, saying:

Since I plan to sell them as im getting out of the hobby

That doesn't make sense as the mother of a son who games? And what about the discrepancies with what age you have said your son is?

Also, I'm not sure how a picture could prove that you don't recast (I'm not saying you do, but just trying to investigate the discrepancies here) as you would have to have the originals, anyway.

Just trying to get the questions answered first....

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The forgeworld items I received from Lord.Serpius came in an official forgeworld bag. I can take pictures of that if you would like?


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They are of proper color and with the giant stupid wedge thing that they come attached with.

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There is proof I don't recast.

I love how this is now a witch hunt against me!

My message to Seki was a typo. I'm not good with touch screens sometimes. 13 should be 24. My son is twenty four.

My son was leaving the hobby because our income was to low to afford it. Once he had the idea to sell FW parts, he talked me into it and here I am. Here I am defending myself from people that, from what this thread has shown, think everyone and anyone is Mr Bonder.

I will be faxing you my info. I would appreciate the link to my store be removed before one of the people here hurt it thinking I'm Mr Bonder.


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Sekai wrote:The forgeworld items I received from Lord.Serpius came in an official forgeworld bag. I can take pictures of that if you would like?


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They are of proper color and with the giant stupid wedge thing that they come attached with.


Please do Sekai. This is getting out of control when I'm nothing but a legit seller.

Even my old posts in swap shop had another person mention how good of a seller I am. Look at my feedback! It even talks about the products being real and my shipping time great. Does that sound like the Mr Bonder you have all discussed?

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Lord.Serpius wrote:My message to Seki was a typo. I'm not good with touch screens sometimes. 13 should be 24. My son is twenty four.

My son was leaving the hobby because our income was to low to afford it. Once he had the idea to sell FW parts, he talked me into it and here I am.

So you order parts from FW to resell? What's the benefit? There can't be much of a margin on it, can there?

Also, you mention 3 ebay accounts: I only see double.your.bits and lord.serpius, what's the third?

As I said, I'm just asking questions to try to track down the storyline, which is a bit convoluted... I'll look for your fax on Monday.

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