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AllSeeingSkink wrote:

Herzlos wrote:
They'd probably make you buy a new knife. Like when they stopped selling the drill bits individually and expected you to buy a new drill...

They probably realised that their customers realise after buying the drill that they can buy bits for next to nothing from a hardware store, lol.

I've heard of people being kicked out of stores for pointing out they can get spares (either blades or drill bits) from a hardware store, so I really think they expect customers to buy the full thing again. Just like they got rid of the bits service on the assumption people would just by full kits.

Herzlos wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

Herzlos wrote:
They'd probably make you buy a new knife. Like when they stopped selling the drill bits individually and expected you to buy a new drill...

They probably realised that their customers realise after buying the drill that they can buy bits for next to nothing from a hardware store, lol.

I've heard of people being kicked out of stores for pointing out they can get spares (either blades or drill bits) from a hardware store, so I really think they expect customers to buy the full thing again. Just like they got rid of the bits service on the assumption people would just by full kits.

I hope you do not believe every single story about "someone getting kicked out" you hear.

Not to say that such a story might be untrue, but more often than not things get left out during these storytellings--sometimes on purpose and sometimes on accident.

 Jayce_The_Ace wrote:


Does anyone remember the last time GW knifes used the 'Swann Morton' style blade? I do, and I remember seeing blister pack of replacement blades (5 in a silver packet) in the York GW for £5 - yes, £5 - about 5 times what you would pay for them elsewhere - and that was years ago - what would they charge now??

I bought some Swann Morton blades on Ebay about 3 years ago. It was just over £1 for a pack of 10 with free delivery. I bought 3 packs. 30 blades for less than GW used to charge for 5. I don't think I've gotten through more than 1 of the packs yet.

Herzlos wrote:
They'd probably make you buy a new knife. Like when they stopped selling the drill bits individually and expected you to buy a new drill...

The blade retraction feature of the new GW knife is one of the better things they have to offer with their new tools, but the blades are not standard hobby knife blades so replacing them after you've used up what comes with the knife could be an issue. The likely unintentional hint about where to get replacements is in the knife's description where you see the word "scalpel". It turns out the knife blades they are using are available from scalpel supply sites

Example:
http://www.rakuten.com/prod/economy-scalpel-blades-10-pack-of-100/229609576.html?listingId=289482794&scid=pla_google_Micro-Tools&adid=18172&gclid=CLTcp5DH-b0CFYN0OgodATIAbQ

http://www.shop.gorillascientific.com/Premiere-Brand-Scalpel-Blades-10-9310.htm?gclid=CKnS6c7H-b0CFSwdOgodBRkAgA

Yes, its a swann morton blade with a citadel shell.

The original swan morton retractable can be had for about £5 on ebay. GW used to sell it themselves.

I think they come with number 11 blades.

I prefer the 10's myself.

In the US the brand name may not be so well known, but the majority of scalpel blades sold in the world are Swann Morton profiles, whether from them or copies.

Don't forget, the Citadel knife comes with three positions!!!!

 azreal13 wrote:
Don't forget, the Citadel knife comes with three positions!!!!

...with a click so you know its there!

The WD article does actually state that you can get new blades "at any arts and crafts shop". They are admitting there is a wider hobby. It'll never catch on.

alphaecho wrote:

 azreal13 wrote:
Don't forget, the Citadel knife comes with three positions!!!!

...with a click so you know its there!

The WD article does actually state that you can get new blades "at any arts and crafts shop". They are admitting there is a wider hobby. It'll never catch on.

GW have a long history of actually acknowledging there's a wider hobby than their own. They often reference products that aren't their own in hobby articles and books, just less so more recently.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
To be fair, we don't know the quality of the new GW tools, they could be awesome. I'm guessing not, but there's always a chance, lol.

This should be kept in mind, the tools won't actually hit shelves until this weekend. But until then, we can still look out for alternatives.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

alphaecho wrote:

 azreal13 wrote:
Don't forget, the Citadel knife comes with three positions!!!!

...with a click so you know its there!

The WD article does actually state that you can get new blades "at any arts and crafts shop". They are admitting there is a wider hobby. It'll never catch on.

GW have a long history of actually acknowledging there's a wider hobby than their own. They often reference products that aren't their own in hobby articles and books, just less so more recently.

By 'recently', do you mean after about 1988?

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

alphaecho wrote:

 azreal13 wrote:
Don't forget, the Citadel knife comes with three positions!!!!

...with a click so you know its there!

The WD article does actually state that you can get new blades "at any arts and crafts shop". They are admitting there is a wider hobby. It'll never catch on.

GW have a long history of actually acknowledging there's a wider hobby than their own. They often reference products that aren't their own in hobby articles and books, just less so more recently.

Granted, but the references to the wider world became as rare as rocking horse doodoo the moment the company started to try producing everything.

There doesn't seem to be the old advice like buying aquarium plants for alien jungle terrain, picking up cake stand decorations for statue columns.

I think the last GW product that advocated a full on DIY approach was Battle Games in Middle Earth with all of the terrain projects.

 Deunstephe wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
To be fair, we don't know the quality of the new GW tools, they could be awesome. I'm guessing not, but there's always a chance, lol.

This should be kept in mind, the tools won't actually hit shelves until this weekend. But until then, we can still look out for alternatives.

Chances are low though, that someone who can appreciate the quality of tools, will buy the GW tools at release

 Kroothawk wrote:

 Deunstephe wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
To be fair, we don't know the quality of the new GW tools, they could be awesome. I'm guessing not, but there's always a chance, lol.

This should be kept in mind, the tools won't actually hit shelves until this weekend. But until then, we can still look out for alternatives.

Chances are low though, that someone who can appreciate the quality of tools, will buy the GW tools at release

Too true.

yeah I cant see anyone who might appreciate potential quality of tooling actually buying them either.
These tools can only really be aimed at new blood; as the old veterans already have all the tools and more than is included in this kit.

While the new faces will very possibly die of sticker shock and be put off the hobby entirely.

What a smart move gw marketing did there

Here's SpikeyBits' review of the tools, part one. Let's see how these hold up.

I still want to test them myself, though.

EDIT: Part two.


EDIT 2: Part 3! Looks like everything isn't as bad as thought. Some good, some bad. I like the clippers.

Interesting that the reviewer didn't get the fixing type of the blade, this type of fixing is used in the medical world on scalpel's and such.

Micromark has the scraper at 15bucks, not 20. and shows it scraping a curved ship keel, looks like the surfaces of the bit are set for many surfaces as opposed to the GW one, I see he did not favor the knife much.

Files: aluminum, and not steel? and similar shapes, limited files in set. I prefer steel files.

Pin vise/Hand drill: Looks nice, lacks in performance in some areas, decent in others, and limited for so high a price.

sculpting tools: Limited number of sculpt tools, more expensive than others. Better quality and number of tools from other sources.

Clippers: Okay, but worh the 30bucks? I am still not so sol on the GW tool kit, so will stay with tools I know and like n use replacements of the tools I have.

 shasolenzabi wrote:
Files: aluminum, and not steel? and similar shapes, limited files in set. I prefer steel files.

Where does it say they're aluminium? I can't imagine anyone would bother making files from aluminium given more expensive, it's not as strong and a 3rd the stiffness of steel.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 shasolenzabi wrote:
Files: aluminum, and not steel? and similar shapes, limited files in set. I prefer steel files.

Where does it say they're aluminium? I can't imagine anyone would bother making files from aluminium given more expensive, it's not as strong and a 3rd the stiffness of steel.

Go through review part B 2nd review pice he did, he said they were aluminum, and they even appear the light color of aluminum, so aluminum files, and 2 similar shaped ones at that.

Found this on another forum I read;

http://tomschadleminiatures.blogspot.com/2014/04/games-workshop-has-recently-advertised.html

 AduroT wrote:
Found this on another forum I read;

http://tomschadleminiatures.blogspot.com/2014/04/games-workshop-has-recently-advertised.html

Yeah it was posted a few pages back... basically amounts to a long winded way of saying "hey guys, you can buy stuff cheaper if you look elsewhere".

 AduroT wrote:
Found this on another forum I read;

http://tomschadleminiatures.blogspot.com/2014/04/games-workshop-has-recently-advertised.html

I think you mean:

http://tomschadleminiatures.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/games-workshop-has-recently-advertised.html

I found the article to be quite intelligent, if smelling of knee-jerk.

 sing your life wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
Found this on another forum I read;
http://tomschadleminiatures.blogspot.com/2014/04/games-workshop-has-recently-advertised.html

I think you mean:
http://tomschadleminiatures.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/games-workshop-has-recently-advertised.html

Actually he means this one:
http://tomschadleminiatures.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/games-workshop-has-recently-advertised.html
...or this?
http://tomschadleminiatures.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/games-workshop-has-recently-advertised.html

Heh, sorry, only dug thru the last couple pages and didn't see mention of it.

Tools indeed -_-

 shasolenzabi wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 shasolenzabi wrote:
Files: aluminum, and not steel? and similar shapes, limited files in set. I prefer steel files.

Where does it say they're aluminium? I can't imagine anyone would bother making files from aluminium given more expensive, it's not as strong and a 3rd the stiffness of steel.

Go through review part B 2nd review pice he did, he said they were aluminum, and they even appear the light color of aluminum, so aluminum files, and 2 similar shaped ones at that.

No, no.. it's pronounced AH-LEW-MIN-EE-UM . i.e. Aluminium. Food for thought

 angelofvengeance wrote:


Go through review part B 2nd review pice he did, he said they were aluminum, and they even appear the light color of aluminum, so aluminum files, and 2 similar shaped ones at that.

No, no.. it's pronounced AH-LEW-MIN-EE-UM . i.e. Aluminium. Food for thought

HairySticks wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:


Go through review part B 2nd review pice he did, he said they were aluminum, and they even appear the light color of aluminum, so aluminum files, and 2 similar shaped ones at that.

No, no.. it's pronounced AH-LEW-MIN-EE-UM . i.e. Aluminium. Food for thought

Hehehe All I can gather is that this sid eof the pond.. we have a metal called aluminium, over in america.. they do not have this metal but they have one we dont have .. aluminum... funnily they got the exact same properties.
*wonders* where is was discovered first to decide whos name is the right one lol.

FYI, if you have a local Games Workshop they are supposed to offer "demos" with the new tools for today and Sunday.

 Kanluwen wrote:
FYI, if you have a local Games Workshop they are supposed to offer "demos" with the new tools for today and Sunday.

... if the GW store is open that is ... and there is no other customer in the store on Saturday and Sunday