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If I have one real wish it wouldn't be a points drop on the scourges but instead change the type to jet pack. This way they will get relentless and it would be a real boost and make them a unit worth taking. Which would be great as they are really my favourite unit in the dark eldar codex.
Any possible reason why this wasn't the case originally? They are the definition of a jump heavy weapon squad. At the moment they are the most useless unit in the codex, seen as everything they do can be done better and cheeper by tru-blasters.

That's the whole codex in a nutshell. If it fits on a raider or venom and can shoot, it's good. If it has any other function, it can be done better by stuff that sits on raiders and venoms and can shoot..

and this is why i miss the third edition update to the dark eldar codex, least then their dark lances made all armor above 11 count as 11 which made games interesting

Alien Invasion? Rather vague, but this might be DE. Intriguing.

 SarisKhan wrote:
Alien Invasion? Rather vague, but this might be DE. Intriguing.

Might be Necron too...

Might be Sis.. never mind.

Alien invasion is more Necrons I think.

Nope its just a new mission I think
No DE yet let's hope for a better codex than the last 2

If I had to guess, it would be necrons. I honestly would rather see crons get toned down before we get an update.

necrons codex isn't available online at GW, just the interactive one. So, they might be getting the update first before dark elder

Ties in with the undead legion comment, though I'm more inclined to believe this relates to Nagash

 Azreal13 wrote:

 Therion wrote:
For me it's almost impossible to get interested in any 40K release these days, as there's really no concept of 'army' anymore. All we're talking about is "I wonder if there's a single good unit in the upcoming codex that I can ally with my Rainbow Warriors X-Men super-team monster mash".

See, for me, as a 2nd Ed Vet, this is actually a positive. For all the stuff I'd love to see improvements on, the fact that I'm just the discovery of some decent Beastman models I like away from being able to recreate my old Chaos warband with a mash of CSM, CD and IG isn't one of them.

But I guess it boils down to the same old issue, which is if you play 40K with like minded individuals, everything actually looks mostly awesome just now, but if you're stuck in a gaming group where there is a persistent ongoing search for the smelliest cheese possible, and that isn't your bag, then things are disintegrating rapidly.

First of all, whether you're a 2nd Ed Vet or not has no relevance in this matter. I'm a Rogue Trader Vet (tm) and I find the current situation laughably bad, like I already described.

Secondly, the fact one plays with like-minded individuals doesn't automatically mean everything is awesome. It can similarly mean that everyone in the group think the game hasn't been as bad nearly ever. Atleast decades ago when the game was equally bad it was new to us and we could ignore the faults. Lastly though I'm glad you like the game and I hope you have fun with it. I just remember the last time Dark Eldar were being updated I actually cared since the concept of a Dark Eldar army still existed and was played at tabletops worldwide. 40K today is an abomination.

Wow, unwarranted aggression much?

I'm not trying to win a pissing contest here, I was just advancing an opinion.

Oh, and for the record, I liked 40K before it was cool.

EDIT

Additionally, having played 2nd Ed extensively is totally relevant to the point I was making, as, to my recollection, that was the last time in the game's history when army composition was this fluid, and consequently, now is the first time that the old Chaos warbands of the old Codex Chaos are even slightly replicable.

JuniorRS13 wrote:
necrons codex isn't available online at GW, just the interactive one. So, they might be getting the update first before dark elder

That rumor has been rampant. It's just that the Necron codex isn't connected to the Necron models.

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Codex-Necrons-EN

What a wonderful 4 million website.

Puscifer wrote:
I got told:

Orks - June/July
Blood Angels - August/September
Dark Eldar - October/November
Space Wolves - November/December
GK/Necrons - Whichever one is first, January.


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I hope the DE do get an update, but I don't think they can top the last codex. That was one of my favourites.

Now that we've seen it, it's Orks, then Space Wolves, then GK, then the rest.

 kitch102 wrote:
Ties in with the undead legion comment, though I'm more inclined to believe this relates to Nagash

Well yeah, of course it does.

They refer to Necrons as "Undying", not "Undead". Necrons are constructs not raised up bodies.

I'm wondering about "Invasion" too.

D/Eldar "raid," people kind of trip over Necrons on their Tombworlds, Daemons wouldn't be referred to as Alien.

Is it me, or does Alien Invasion taste more Niddy than anything else?

 Azreal13 wrote:
I'm wondering about "Invasion" too.

D/Eldar "raid," people kind of trip over Necrons on their Tombworlds, Daemons wouldn't be referred to as Alien.

Is it me, or does Alien Invasion taste more Niddy than anything else?

Yes, but I think Dark Eldar fit the bill too.

Out of all the 40k armies, Necrons and Tyranids fit 'Alien invasion' the most. Necrons have a bit of a War of the Worlds theme going on.

Back in July this was posted which is quite interesting. The entire display case was missing for Necrons. Given the tie in for Nagash, and all these hints I would strongly consider Necrons as being next. The only thing that makes me think otherwise was that weird easter egg posted on GW's site the other day "The Reign of Millions of Years will end, the great exodus will begin." This fits Dark Elder / Eldar much more than it does Necrons. Although, it could also be a Necron thing. They aren't in an Exodus in the same way the Eldar are, however.

rollawaythestone wrote:
Out of all the 40k armies, Necrons and Tyranids fit 'Alien invasion' the most. Necrons have a bit of a War of the Worlds theme going on.

Back in July this was posted which is quite interesting. The entire display case was missing for Necrons. Given the tie in for Nagash, and all these hints I would strongly consider Necrons as being next. The only thing that makes me think otherwise was that weird easter egg posted on GW's site the other day "The Reign of Millions of Years will end, the great exodus will begin." This fits Dark Elder / Eldar much more than it does Necrons. Although, it could also be a Necron thing. They aren't in an Exodus in the same way the Eldar are, however.

I believe the million years quote was about warhammer and Nagash. It has been going around other sites and that seems to be the consensus. As for which codex is next, I'm under the opinion that it's anyones guess. Could be any of the softcovers, seeing as everyone had GK pegged for next year and then it dropped unexpectedly.

let's stick to the topic ( such as it is) please folks.

Thank you.

JuniorRS13 wrote:

rollawaythestone wrote:
Out of all the 40k armies, Necrons and Tyranids fit 'Alien invasion' the most. Necrons have a bit of a War of the Worlds theme going on.

Back in July this was posted which is quite interesting. The entire display case was missing for Necrons. Given the tie in for Nagash, and all these hints I would strongly consider Necrons as being next. The only thing that makes me think otherwise was that weird easter egg posted on GW's site the other day "The Reign of Millions of Years will end, the great exodus will begin." This fits Dark Elder / Eldar much more than it does Necrons. Although, it could also be a Necron thing. They aren't in an Exodus in the same way the Eldar are, however.

I believe the million years quote was about warhammer and Nagash. It has been going around other sites and that seems to be the consensus. As for which codex is next, I'm under the opinion that it's anyones guess. Could be any of the softcovers, seeing as everyone had GK pegged for next year and then it dropped unexpectedly.

Really? there has been a million year reign in Fantasy? and now its over with Nagash? I really need to read the fluff on him some day.
I would have easily thought Eldar, and with the exodous thing, well exodites would actually fit that description by definition.
I would have been really exited about the prospect of supplement describing the Exodite eldars and their perspective of the cataclysmic turn of events that tore the eldar race and even reality apart.
Ah well.

rollawaythestone wrote:
Out of all the 40k armies, Necrons and Tyranids fit 'Alien invasion' the most. Necrons have a bit of a War of the Worlds theme going on.

Back in July this was posted which is quite interesting. The entire display case was missing for Necrons. Given the tie in for Nagash, and all these hints I would strongly consider Necrons as being next. The only thing that makes me think otherwise was that weird easter egg posted on GW's site the other day "The Reign of Millions of Years will end, the great exodus will begin." This fits Dark Elder / Eldar much more than it does Necrons. Although, it could also be a Necron thing. They aren't in an Exodus in the same way the Eldar are, however.

the reign of a million years was 100% a WFB quote, has to do with Settras reign ending and the tomb kings leaving khemri. It was called the "Reign of a million years" but iirc it was much less, like 1000 years.

Back in July this was posted which is quite interesting. The entire display case was missing for Necrons. Given the tie in for Nagash, and all these hints I would strongly consider Necrons as being next. The only thing that makes me think otherwise was that weird easter egg posted on GW's site the other day "The Reign of Millions of Years will end, the great exodus will begin." This fits Dark Elder / Eldar much more than it does Necrons. Although, it could also be a Necron thing. They aren't in an Exodus in the same way the Eldar are, however.

the space wolves and dark eldar were missing as well

so the space wolves have come out, leaving DE and Necrons.

TBH I think an update to Dark Eldar would see many units improving/going down in cost, whereas currently an update in necrons will most likely see some points decreases but many points increases for things that are seen as competitve, ie flyer spam ann barges, tesla changes.

That and given the length of the dark eldar codex (2010) versus necron (2011) I think we will see dark eldar next.

as for the "alien invasion" it could be the next codex, it could be a sanctus reach style scenario, who knows at this point

Well, having not read the tie in book I may have missed something obvious, but, to my knowledge there's no reason for Grey Knights to have turned up in the campaign yet (them being exclusively Daemon Hunters in the fluff) so while "alien" doesn't fit with Daemons, there is an apparent gap in the narrative and a rumoured release wave for CDs about this time.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Well, having not read the tie in book I may have missed something obvious, but, to my knowledge there's no reason for Grey Knights to have turned up in the campaign yet (them being exclusively Daemon Hunters in the fluff) so while "alien" doesn't fit with Daemons, there is an apparent gap in the narrative and a rumoured release wave for CDs about this time.

The last few missions of Hour of the Wolf have alot of Daemons turning up.

More wild speculation here: http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/09/dark-eldar-latest-whispers-wracks-vs.html

Its just more of the obvious solutions mixed with recycled crap.


I assumed 6 months ago the V-bomber would be pulled from the book. Why even make a new flier kit for it at this point when it so similar to the razorwing already? Probably just add voidlance upgrade or tank hunter to the jetfighter and be done.

Everything else is just rehashed speculation. Drazar has on of the most outdated models, and is hideously out of the current aesthetic. Vect and him obviously need new models, along with the dais. I am actually going to be surprised if we get any plastic infantry, wracks included. This wreaks of the eldar plastic aspect rumors before their release.

Probable Vect + dais and maybe drazr and thats it will be my guess. At any rate I am sure we lose more then we get.

I agree, I think we'll be getting the Grey Knight treatment. One model being moved to plastic IF we're lucky but a quick, slap-dash codex to update to 7th and GW'll call it good.

If they make vect and his dais, hopefully it will be available for use without taking him as the super heavy unit.

A plastic archon would also be nice, I just hope it isn't forced female. Hopefully both sexes are available. Though dressed skimpy enough a female archon could easily be a female succubus too :/

Plastic incubi or 10x plastic drazhar would be fine with me. I just want plastic incubi!

Nvs wrote:


Plastic incubi or 10x plastic drazhar would be fine with me. I just want plastic incubi!

Have you really looked at the incubi? They are like 95% kabalite warriors. They just have a trophy rack, alternate helm and a two handed PW. In fact most eldar aspects are 95% guardian as well.

What I hope/wishlist for most is another vehicle variant and some better weapon (gun) profiles. Drives me crazy that for all the variety of entries in our book, all it boils down to are is it a splinter round or a darklight round. Literally thats all we are right now.

Hellions-splinter pod
scourge-shard carbine
bikes-SR
warriors-SR
wyches-SP
Venom-SC
raider-DL
trueborn-blasters
ravager-blasters
etc etc.

meanwhile eldar have aspect unique guns for the majority of their units.
wraithguard-unique weapon
Wspiders-unique weapon
firedragons-uniue weapon
reapers-unigue weapon
hawks-unique weapon
ranger-unique weapon
artilery-unique weapons
tanks- all unique main guns.
even dire avenger have a modified shuricat.