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i know its only been about 3 hours since the award ceremony but i still dont know what army took the prize...

does anyone know who or what won ard boyz 2010?

wow asked seconds before me I even searched lol. I am also awaiting the results

For the LA location:

1st: Daemons
2nd: Space Wolves
3rd: Eldar

I'll let those who participated in the tournament elaborate on their armies and the results. I wasn't there the whole day, but from what I could tell the event ran pretty smoothly.

Yeah Im curious also.. Seems like the internet personalities didnt win or it would have been plastered all over the net a moment after it happened

Or everyone is too tired to post!

Kirasu wrote:Yeah Im curious also.. Seems like the internet personalities didnt win or it would have been plastered all over the net a moment after it happened

Or everyone is too tired to post!

Too tired to post? Madness.

My apologies, I meant to say SPARTA!

The event at showcase comics in Media PA was run extremely well. A big thank you to Mike for making it a great day. He even cooked barbeque chicken and beans for every competitor!

At the end of the day I, (Ben Mohlie) had 56 battle points, as did a gentlemen named Clark Welch. The TO decided to use total victory points over the course of the day as a tie breaker, and Clark had more, so he took 1st place and I got 2nd. Third place was won by a really nice guy playing blood angels from, I think, north carolina. (could be wrong about the state, but im sure he was nice) I played space wolves with lots of walking wolf guard and long fangs, and I believe Clark played chaos marines.

Congratulations to Clark and to the third place blood angels guy!

We all now have golden tickets, so I will seek my revenge on Clark in Vegas .

Chicago placings were

1. Guard
2. Orks
3. Space Wolves

Someone from our shop came in 5th out of 46

I went Chicago with a friend who played elder and got 12th. Almost all the top dozen were IG, wolves,Nids,orks. Out of the 46 there I saw...no crons,no tau,no dark elves. Probably 10 IG, 8 wolves ,7 Nids ,6 orks a mix of SM, 2 demons, 3 CSM,2 blood angels, 3 eldar. It looked to be ran really well and fights were kept to a minimum, good gaming day. Also the Chicago bunker was great and the employees were really helpful and Damn good salesmen, as I know own the beginning of my fantasy army lol.

Congratulations to the Chaos Space Marine & Daemons players. Very well done & nice to see these armies winning over top tiered lists.

G

At the East Coast Finals at Showcase Comics:

1st Clark Welch Chaos Marines
2nd Ben Mohlie Foot slogging Space Wolves
3rd Stephen Fore Blood Angels

The whole crew of players were great. One of the easiest tournaments I've run with easy going players, very polite, and with good rules knowledge.

What is the prize support like for the finals? I assume those playing in the finals must have already won an army during the semis.

Looks like some counter-meta list building paid off.

augustus5 wrote:What is the prize support like for the finals? I assume those playing in the finals must have already won an army during the semis.

Winner got a full sized orky Shoota, 1st, 2nd and 3rd got certificates and tickets to Las Vegas.

I was told to submit names and email for online vouchers, but no clue on the amounts they are getting.


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Full scoring for the East Coast event is up at http://www.biggunz-ne.com/

Contracts to east coasts brad park for running crons AR all but managing to finish mid tier....amazing!

So far no reports of any shenanigans. Nice.

G

Black Blow Fly wrote:So far no reports of any shenanigans. Nice.

G

nice? This forum has been almost dead since last round of ard boyz :( I was hoping shenanigans would spice it up

mikhaila wrote:Full scoring for the East Coast event is up at http://www.biggunz-ne.com/

Mike Twidell

I'll have to give him a hard time about that typo...

his name is Twitchell

Eh, I heard about the Daemons player who won the LA tourney turbo-boosting into terrain.

The break down for Chicago 'ardz went like this:
9 IG
7 Space Marines (4 salmanders) (1 Khan list) (1 Shrike list) (1 Ultra marine list)
7 Tyrnids
6 Orks
6 Space Wolves (4 with Thundercav, 2 w/o)
3 Eldar
3 Chaos Marines
2 Demons
2 Blood Angles (one was a counts as BA)
1 Black Templar

total of 46 Players
The tops 5 tables pairings were:
Top Table was Mech IG vrs Thundercav and Drops Pods
Mech IG lost one Demolisher and all but shot dead the Thundercav. All the Space wolf player had on the table was a fleeing Greyhunter with Wolfguard in Termi armour, a Drop pod and another pinned unit of two grey hunters when the game ended on turn 5

The next Table was Orks vrs Mech IG. The ork player basically green tide the IG player and literally drowned him in bodies and massacred the IG Player.

The third Table was Mech Eldar vrs All Drop Pod Space Wolves List, I know the Space wolf player massacred the Mech Eldar player but I didnt watch that game.

The 4 and 5 Tables where both Tyranids vrs Mech IG.




The winning IG for Chicago was as follows:
1 CCS w/ meltaguns, Officer of the Fleet, Astropath in a Chimera 195
1 Lord Inquisitor w/ 3 Mystics, Psycannon, Psychic Hood, and Tarot 128
1 Callidus Assassin 120
1 Full Pysker battle Squad with Chimera 165
2 Vet Squads w/ 3 Plasma Guns, Lascannon and Chimera 190 each
2 Vet Squads w/ 3 Melta Guns and a Chimera 155 each
1 Platoon:
Platoon Command w/ 4 flamers and a Chimera 105
1 Barebones squad w/ a chimera for the Lord IQ for 105
1 Barebones squad 50
3 Vendettas 390
1 Demoliser w/ Plasma Cannons and a Hull Lascannon 220
1 Battle Tank w/ Sponoon and Hull Heavy bolters 170
1 Maticore

2498


I went there to watch this year I noticed the only actually Blood Angels player there literally had 27 models on the board. No I mean vehicles, characters, troops, and dreadnought he had a total of 27 models! He had no scoring units! From what I saw he had Sanguire, Astorth, Corbulo, 2 Sag Priest, 7 termies (mix of lighting claws and thunderhammer stormshields) a Landraider Redeemer, 2 Stormravens with 4 blood strike missles each, 1 dreadnought with double blood talons, another with magna grapple and something else. 2 5 man Death Company troops one with Lamerties and two barebones Flamestorm Baal Predators.
I'm not sure on the spelling but he got screwed for the first mission because it was the peace talks but he tabled his next two opponents.


From watching all the games nids are not a tier one list right now even with a 5th edition codex, Neither are the Blood Angles, especially with the fact that the codex doesn't even match the fluff on any level. The nids have nothing can stop a tricked out Wolf Lord or the insane IG firepower. IG and Wolves are the top codexs with Orks still holding strong. I think The Eldar, CSM and Nids are the tier two Codexs and all other codexs just can't hang.

Seems like you have contradicted yourself claiming BA are not top tier but seemed to have also praised the one you mentioned.

Thanks for the update, it is very interesting to know.

G

Black Blow Fly wrote:Seems like you have contradicted yourself claiming BA are not top tier but seemed to have also praised the one you mentioned.

Thanks for the update, it is very interesting to know.

G

Hmmm, True I stand corrected! I'm still mixed on the Blood Angles. The best builds coming out the codex are all mech baal predator, razorback, vindicator spam but this is as far removed polar opposite from the Blood Angles fluff.

Personal I think Matt Ward royally screwed up the book and should be fired for it!


edit:
Caveat, I'm a IG player, I have no marines and never have any intention of picking and playing those genetically modified freaks!

Wildstorm wrote:

mikhaila wrote:Full scoring for the East Coast event is up at http://www.biggunz-ne.com/

Mike Twidell

I'll have to give him a hard time about that typo...

his name is Twitchell

I blame it all on Al trying unsuccessful to read players handwritten on the sign in list. He doesn't know his ABC's at the best of times.)

If we maimed anyones name too bad, PM me and I'll fix it.

mikhaila wrote:

Wildstorm wrote:

mikhaila wrote:Full scoring for the East Coast event is up at http://www.biggunz-ne.com/

Mike Twidell

I'll have to give him a hard time about that typo...

his name is Twitchell

I blame it all on Al trying unsuccessful to read players handwritten on the sign in list. He doesn't know his ABC's at the best of times.)

If we maimed anyones name too bad, PM me and I'll fix it.

Looking at that list it seems the Chaos Marine player really won hands down. 6800+ Victory Points out of a possible 8000 is insane!

I'm curious how he handled the Peace talk mission as that one seemed have fail written all over it. In fact all the missions where rather poorly written and rather badly thought out.
Just my 2 cents.

I think Mech IG is the top tier. Wolves are probably the next best codex. People just need a little more time to get the BA up there. I just think, not to take anything away from guard players, but someone who has never ran guard but knows the game, can run guard and do well. I dont mean win major tournaments, but throw 100 S6 and S5 shots as well as 15 lascannons and a few S7-10 large blasts, and you can shoot a lot of problems off the board. People who have never run wolves but know the game wont have the initial success. It takes a bit more practice. That being said, at the Ard Boyz level its probably more the player than the actual codex.

I think in the hands of a good player any codex from Eldar forward have good chances of competeing. The Mech IG still is the strongest build though as it can really leave some builds dead in the water after turn 1.

Black Blow Fly wrote:So far no reports of any shenanigans. Nice.

G

I played an iyanden style eldar list and pulled third, I had most battlepoints going into third round and needed anything but a minor loss (which I got) to get first lol.

My third round opponent (who got second) had a spacewolf list with razorback spam and as many heavy weapons you could fit. In our game I whent to the bathroom once during my opponents move phase turn 4 and while in the bathroom he put a unit in a transport and forgot to tell me when I got back, it was that tank with greyhunters that got the primary objective on turn 5/6 to my surprise, I was like, "when did you put guys in that tank?". "oh, I forgot to tell you, I did that when you whent to the bathroom sorry!".

I'm sure it was an honest mistake, he was a great sport and very nice guy so I'm glad he got to place at all and hope to see him at Los vegas next year!

The demon player had fantasy cold ones proxied as some demon stuff, shady proxies all around but oh well, he won and it's over so we'll see what happens next year.

The guy who ran the LA tourny was really nice and professional and I'm glad with how things turned out in the end.

I took 5th at the East Coast venue.

1) Plaudits to Mikhaila for a VERY WELL-RUN event. His tables/scenery were great, his store was top-notch, and he brought lunch for the players; at a free event, no less- can't beat that.

2) Congrats to Clark- he whooped my tail in the first game- glad to see it was towards a good end

Wow! The guy who took 3rd for the East Coast is a guy from my shop who I played in the Prelims and have known for years. He has been chasing Finals since 'Ard Boyz started and, despite being injured in a grill-related accident the weekend prior, he managed to pull out a third place win. That is awesome!

"Real Blood Angels" army. QFT

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The 23-27 model army you are talking about is one me and the general who took it (Delgado) worked on. It's not perfect and it obviously has no scoring units, BUT it definitely feels like Blood Angels.

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The mech BA just don't seem like BA to me. It's just built around moving vehicles 12" and firing. Not the dudes inside. (Call me a purest!) askdf;ks;dkflasdkfdks

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Though Steven (3rd place winner in philly) is a cool guy. Have got to meet him a few times. Grats to him on a job well done!

I attended the 'Ard Boyz Finals in Media with Necrons, fairly certain I was the only one using Necrons in all of 'Ard Boyz Finals. I had the honor of playing, and drawing the gentle man who came in third. I finished 1-1-1 shooting par for the day. I only hope I'll be able to reach the Finals again next year.

I had a good time at the finals. I had 3 good opponents and 3 good games.The gaming atmosphere was great, the finalists were all very likable players with no sign of TFG, and the final missions has a little bit of variety from the core missions without being crazy game breaking missions. My only complaints were I think my own game was off from not playing for over 3 weeks because of the wife's surgery, and the venue was hot.

I think I placed 8th of 17 after a major victory, tie, and minor victory after 3 good games.

1st game was against Tau of all armies. His list was a solid tau list, but it was a total mismatch in my favor. Solid all comers Tau lists like the one I played have severe problems when fighting a BA jump list that has no vehicles. A lot of points were spent on railguns and str7 Tau missiles which are very effective weapons against most armies, just not my list which is highly vulnerable to Tau plasma. Fortunately he was a very good tau player, and slippery as hell so we actually had a good game. I got a major victory out of game #1. The match up was lucky for me and unlucky for him, the guy was really good with the tau and would have done a lot better in the tournament if he was matched up against mechanized opponents.

2nd game was against nids, and it was a total bloodbath. He had a unit of flying shrieks with lash whips and bone swords, the swarmlord, and 2 big units of genestealers. He had strong standard anti MEQ nid tactics, but he should have been more aggressive with his trygon and should not have outflanked with his genestealers. He was a good player, he just was not on top of capitalizing on the weakness of a jump list army and missed a couple opportunities to jump on me where I was weakest. On the other had he made no mistakes I could capitalize on, and his list + tactics were to solid for me to get a real upper hand on him. We ended the game with be being about 300 or so victory points on top which wasn't good enough for even a minor victory (500 required) resulting in a tie.

3rd game was against Sean Harrington's nids, and it was also a total bloodbath. I was really looking forward to this game because I missed the chance of fighting his list in the semi finals. I knew I didn't have much of a chance to get anything more than a minor victory if I won, and was certain to get a loss if I made any screw ups, but none of that mattered because the round 2 tie already knocked my out of the runnings so I was just happy we finally got matched up against each other. Sean decided to take the 2nd turn. Spore mines fubared my deployment, I used scout moves to position my bikes for turn 1 charge his biovores and rapid fire into genestealers that were in the open, and he stole the initiative. From that point we we pretty much kicked the crap out of each other with him always having a slight upper hand. The Doom really messed up my battle planes as I basically lost a turn gunning it down from near maximum melta range resulting in his genestealers getting off a charge. By turn 5 both of us lost the majority of our armies, though I lost more. At that point we were the last table playing and only had about 10 minutes left. The game ended with me charging genestealers on the 3 point objective with everything I had left except a sanguinary priest who detached from the squad to contest the middle objective. I got the genestealers and the 3 point objective, he had the right hand objective and a lot more kill points than me making it the objective worth an extra point ending in a 3/2 minor victory. Stealing the initiative really kicked the crap out of my army, but against an army as fast as mine having the last turn in a timed tournament game was the only thing that let me win.

I saw the 1st and 3rd place armies. The 3rd place wraithguard army was well painted and looked really good on the field. The 1st place deamon army had some unusual elements. Plaguebearers for objective holding troops and 3 nurgle deamon princes was stuff I've seen before. What was different was he had a lot of fiends, a lot of screamers, and all his HQ's were tzeentch heralds on flying chariots.

When it comes to tournaments I don't believe in dice luck, it all seems to equalize out in the end. Match up luck is far more important for actual placement with pairings having a huge impact. The nid armies in rounds 2 and 3 were just too solid and played too well for me to win. My army was built to fight mech SM/IG/eldar/Tau. It does fine against Nids, but I don't have a real upper hand so all I got out of rounds 2 and 3 were two great games of 40k that were a lot of fun.