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Made in gb
Stalwart Skittari




Hey, Well this im my first attempt at a Gaurd list as i need to get into the hang of making lists for these guys.
Please post your comment as i would appreciate some constructive criticsm, thanks!

HQ
CSS
4 Plasma 110

TROOPS

PCS 30


Inf Squad
Chim
1 Plasma 120

Inf Squad
Chim
1 Plasma 120

PCS 30

Inf Squad
Chim
1 Plasma 120

Inf Squad
Chim
1 Plasma 120

Heavy Weps
3 Autocannons 75

Heavy Weps
3 Autocannons 75

FAST ATTACK

Scount Sent
1 Autocannon 40

Hellhound Bane 130

Hellhound Bane 130

HVY SUPPORT

Battle Tank
Plasma Cannons 190

Battle Tank
Plasma Cannons 190.

Thats it guys, please post your thoughts (constructive criticsm please !)

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/08/06 15:33:40


 
   
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Rough Rider with Boomstick




Champaign, IL

You only have one troops choice in here.

Your single platoon command squad has no special weapons, when they can take four. I prefer to either give them meltas and have them suicide in a Valk, or give them flamers.

Sentinels are usually not too hot of an item, unless you have a specific plan to outflank them.

I've alwasy considered Plasma Sponsons for the Russ to be too expensive, unless you're planning to keep them stationary. This isn't usually considered a great idea, as they could be leading the group of Chimeras with AV14.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/08/06 15:27:23


Look at your comment. Back to mine. Back to yours NOW BACK TO MINE. Sadly, it isn't mine. But if you stopped trolling and started posting legitimate crap it could LOOK like mine. Look down, back up, where are you? You're scrolling through comments, finding the ones that your comment could look like. Back at mine, what is it? It's a highly effective counter-troll. Look again, MY COMMENT IS NOW DIAMONDS.

Anything is possible when you think before you comment or post.

I'm on a computer. 
   
Made in gb
Stalwart Skittari




True, I never thought of that, How about if i took one of the sentinals out of there and Put another PCS in there with 2 of the infantry squads.
   
Made in us
Rough Rider with Boomstick




Champaign, IL

I don't see any way of taking out heavy armor except the Battle Tanks. I'd suggest replacing some plasmas with meltas, adding a group or two of Veterans with meltas, or giving them to your PCS. How much melta you add depends on what your metagame is. I know, personally, that I face 'Nids about 60%-70% of my matchups, so I only have my CCS with meltas.

Also, you'll probably get at least one person telling you that the Banewolf is crap, and that you should go with the Hellhound. I don't have personal experience with this, myself.

Look at your comment. Back to mine. Back to yours NOW BACK TO MINE. Sadly, it isn't mine. But if you stopped trolling and started posting legitimate crap it could LOOK like mine. Look down, back up, where are you? You're scrolling through comments, finding the ones that your comment could look like. Back at mine, what is it? It's a highly effective counter-troll. Look again, MY COMMENT IS NOW DIAMONDS.

Anything is possible when you think before you comment or post.

I'm on a computer. 
   
Made in gb
Stalwart Skittari




True, Im trying to make a balanced list in all fairness as i wont know what armys im actually playing untill the game.
   
Made in gb
Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker





essex, england

Hi
I would personally make it a veterns list by losing the pcs and 8 plasma leaving enough for 10 melta (2 each inc ccs)
replace 2 auto teams with 2 hydras.
and if you lost the sentinal you could upgrade the bane to have multi meltas too.
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut





Vallejo, CA

so this list actually isn't going in the wrong direction, it's just executed poorly (for example, having lots of anti-infantry but little anti-tank). Here's a re-do of your basic list with things lined up a little better.

HQ
CSS 4 Plasma 165
chimera (HF)

TROOPS

PCS 3 melta 115
chimera (HF)

Inf Squad
Chim
1 melta 115

Inf Squad
Chim
1 melta 115

PCS 3 melta 115
chimera (HF)

Inf Squad
Chim
1 melta 115

Inf Squad
Chim
1 melta 115

FAST ATTACK

Hellhound 130

Hellhound 130

HVY SUPPORT

Demolisher HF (165)

Demolisher HF (165)

This gives you 55 points left over.

There are a few things you could do. One would be to drop a hellhound and use the 185 points to buy al'rahem and an astropath for one of your infantry squads and then snag a lascannon scout sentinel and some meltabomb upgrades everywhere.

Other thing you can do is drop a hellhound for another demolisher, and a armored sentinel.

Or you could drop a hellhound and put in a 3x melta vet squad in a chimera.

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Made in gb
Stalwart Skittari




Im Going to make a new copy of the roster tonight, one thing i was wondering though is how have you gone about getting the Meltas for the vets because you dont get any meltas on the sprues for the normal men?
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut





Vallejo, CA

I've gotten all my meltaguns from the tac marine sprue, though bitz order sites.

Your one-stop website for batreps, articles, and assorted goodies about the men of Folera: Foleran First Imperial Archives. Read Dakka's favorite narrative battle report series The Hand of the King. Also, check out my commission work, and my terrain.

Abstract Principles of 40k: Why game imbalance and list tailoring is good, and why tournaments are an absurd farce.

Read "The Geomides Affair", now on sale! No bolter porn. Not another inquisitor story. A book written by a dakkanought for dakkanoughts!
 
   
Made in gb
Stalwart Skittari




Right guys, after taking in all of your Contributions i have revised the list and here is what i've got.

CCS
Chim
2x Melta 125

Troops

Vet
Chim
3x Melta 155

Vet
Chim
3x Melta 155

Vet
Chim
2x Melta 145

Vet
Chim
2x Melta 145

PCS 30

Inf
Las 70

Inf
Las 70

Heavy Weps team
3 lascannon 105

HEAVY SUPPORT

LR Demolisher 165

LR Demolisher 165

LR Demolisher 165

Right Well my plan is to have the LR's to lead the chimeras up to the heart of the battle to objective etc further out it the battlefield whilst taking shots at the enemy infantry hoping to weaken them up along with the assistance with the HB's from the Chimeras, My Platoon Command plus Inf and Hvy Weps team, the plan is to keep those back to take objectives closer to my deplyoment zone or for simple defence whilst taking shots with the lascannons at any units that can be seen preferablly tanks.

Please give me your Advice and criticsms, Thanks
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut





Vallejo, CA

not the biggest fan of the do-nothing infantry platoon.

I'd drop it for 205 points and then buy another mechvet squad, and use the remaining points to bump every vet squad to 3 special weapons (and get at least one more in the CCS).

Your one-stop website for batreps, articles, and assorted goodies about the men of Folera: Foleran First Imperial Archives. Read Dakka's favorite narrative battle report series The Hand of the King. Also, check out my commission work, and my terrain.

Abstract Principles of 40k: Why game imbalance and list tailoring is good, and why tournaments are an absurd farce.

Read "The Geomides Affair", now on sale! No bolter porn. Not another inquisitor story. A book written by a dakkanought for dakkanoughts!
 
   
Made in gb
Stalwart Skittari




Hmm maybe, my idea behind it was the fact its 4 more scoring units if im correct( Im not to sure) and an option for some more heavy weapons as just a back up really.
   
 
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