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I'm sorry if this has been brought up before but, the other day I was talking to my brother about the game, and the new blood angels codex came up in our discussion.

I flipped through it and started noticing a general... shall we say... theme, knowing that Sanguine is latin for blood, it became even more apparent.

So we've got 'blood' priests...

the 'blood'inor...

librarians attacking with blood lances...

dreadnoughts armed with blood claws...

units being driven into berserk rage by the red thirst...

blood for the blood god... oh wait... how did that get in there

But seriously, I'm looking at a codex that is more obsessed with blood than the World Eaters. How can somebody look a man in the hairy eyeball and tell him the blood angels don't worship the blood god??

I'll probably take some hate for this, but I mean seriously, no army should be more obsessed with blood than the World Eaters, its just silly.

Skulls for the skull throne chaps!

That's because you haven't heard of the Flesh Tearers, they butcher their pals and eat 'em. Yet they are still considered loyalist.

Well, it's a fine distinction. (see my sig) but it's all right if you're butchering traitors and xenos scum

Its because they wuv the emperor so vewy, vewy much

divinebovine wrote:Its because they wuv the emperor so vewy, vewy much

This is not wrong, basically they're loyal, they've never done anything to cause anyone to investigate them seriously (unlike say the Space Wolves or Dark Angels, both of whom are always described as having poor relations with the Inquisition). Plus they show up and save the day at most of the big fights and few chapters are known to hate chaos with as much passion as them.

Also Sanguinius is put up there as a saint second only to the Emperor on most planets, which gives them a lot of positive name recognition.

Jack

Then there's the tiny, tiny issue of Horus having slain their primarch.

The fact they are always fighting the red thirst is part of their test of will to not succomb to the red thirst.

Same reason why Dark angels haven't shown their true colors. GW likes their space marines.

What are you talking about? They do serve the Chaos Gods.

Well, specifically, Khorne, and by proxy, Tzeentch.

See, here's how it breaks down.

Khorne loves anyone who kills someone else. He doesn't care who they're killing, as long as blood is being spilled, he's happy. Death by the hand of another empowers him. Therefore, Blood Angels going wild and killing anything and everything in front of them (enemy combatants and civilians alike) makes Khorne very, very happy. He's a little bit less enthused by the idea of Blood Angels killing his beloved Bloodletters and World Eaters, but he understands that sometimes you gotta kill a few of your own people to make an omelet. He's a pretty chill guy about things like that anyway (or Kharn would be long out of the picture by now).

Tzeentch, of course, rules over Khorne with a velvet fist - possibly even an invisible, ethereal velvet fist, since Khorne doesn't even realize he's constantly being played. As Khorne and his minions (directly or by proxy via Blood Angels) change warriors into headless corpses, they inch Tzeentch's grand plans further towards their inevitable fruition. Whether Blood Angels kill or die, it's all part of the plan. This is why you can't win a battle against Tzeentch - it's always part of the plan, and you are nothing but a pawn in his eyes, playing your role in the plan like a good little unknowing servant of Chaos.

And finally, the Blood Angels. Well, they just do the killing. As I said, it doesn't matter who they're killing or how many of them are dying in the process of doing the killing - Blood Angels killing anything at all empowers Khorne, which, by proxy, empowers Tzeentch.

So the Blood Angels do serve Chaos, they're just too naive to realize it.

Because GW said so.

They are Chaos. Filthy mutant heretics, too.

I'm surprised the Blood Angels haven't decided to just Feth it, glue some spikes to their nipples, and go on a Slaaneshi warpath of perverted destruction.

Then they and the Emperors Children can chill out for a bit, take a few hits off a bong pipe crafted from the bones of children rent from their mothers womb, with weed grown from the pure and utter despair of those tortured in ways truly unimaginable.

And then they'll molest the entire Tau Empire.

Haddi wrote:I'm surprised the Blood Angels haven't decided to just Feth it, glue some spikes to their nipples, and go on a Slaaneshi warpath of perverted destruction.

Then they and the Emperors Children can chill out for a bit, take a few hits off a bong pipe crafted from the bones of children rent from their mothers womb, with weed grown from the pure and utter despair of those tortured in ways truly unimaginable.

And then they'll molest the entire Tau Empire.

Sounds like Slaanesh to me.

But consider this: Khorne and Slaanesh are the antithesis of one another. Anything that prolongs life or inflicts suffering without death empowers Slaanesh, and is therefore abhorrent to Khorne. On the other hand, mindless killing empowers Khorne, and is therefore abhorrent to Slaanesh.

So the Angels could never serve Slaanesh.

Because they already serve Khorne.

SaintHazard wrote:

Haddi wrote:I'm surprised the Blood Angels haven't decided to just Feth it, glue some spikes to their nipples, and go on a Slaaneshi warpath of perverted destruction.

Then they and the Emperors Children can chill out for a bit, take a few hits off a bong pipe crafted from the bones of children rent from their mothers womb, with weed grown from the pure and utter despair of those tortured in ways truly unimaginable.

And then they'll molest the entire Tau Empire.

Sounds like Slaanesh to me.

But consider this: Khorne and Slaanesh are the antithesis of one another. Anything that prolongs life or inflicts suffering without death empowers Slaanesh, and is therefore abhorrent to Khorne. On the other hand, mindless killing empowers Khorne, and is therefore abhorrent to Slaanesh.

So the Angels could never serve Slaanesh.

Because they already serve Khorne.

I think there's paperwork to fill out to switch gods. I'm sure Khorne won't mind...

But on mindless killing, if you view the slaughter of enemies on the field of battle as 'Mindless killing serving Khorne" then do the servants of Slaanesh not serve Khorne with every life they take? If you portray all killing as abhorent to Slaanesh, then they would be the most perverted Mormons you'd ever see...

Hey, even Slaanesh knows you gotta break a few eggs if you want to make an orgy.

this is simply to heretical for me to pay any attention to it

cadian512 wrote:this is simply to heretical for me to pay any attention to it

Come on man, don't be a bummer, Uncle Slaanesh has something in his pocket for you.

must resist temptation...!

Whoa!, you guys have waaaay to much time to work this stuff out! it's hell funny thinking of it that way though so I do commend the discussion even if it's enought o make my head spin,and if I read correctly my head spinning would be all part of tzeentch's plan to annoy Khorne?

nerdfest09 wrote:Whoa!, you guys have waaaay to much time to work this stuff out! it's hell funny thinking of it that way though so I do commend the discussion even if it's enought o make my head spin,and if I read correctly my head spinning would be all part of tzeentch's plan to annoy Khorne?

Posting this again just for you

Pfah, everyone knows it was Proud Sanguinius who slew the Emperor. It was actually the Emperor who first reached Horus, but his mere presence brought Horus back to the light. Sanguinius, tainted easily (As proven by his hideous mutations) both slew Horus and fatally injured the Emperor in a fit of Chaos-Fueled rage. The Emperor mererly elected to keep this secret, and the Death Companies "Visions of the Battle" drive them to a guilt-filled rage, not a homicidal one. That is why they paint themselves Black and throw themselves into combat, renouncing the colors of their Chapter, and hoping to die serving the Emperor. The Red Thirst is Sanguinius, who took place as a Daemon Prince for his success, psychically attacking his sons, driving them ever closer to Chaos. The surge of fallen Blood Angels is him growing in power, preparing to come back, claim his chapter for Slaanesh, and finish the job he started. That's also why Chaos endeavored to kill the clones of Horus, for they were not clones of the Disgusting Monster-Primarch who slew the emperor, but clones of a milksop weakling who betrayed the Gods in the end!


Makes more sense then the current BA fluff don't it?

^MOAR PROPAGANDA!!!

Haddi wrote:Uncle Slaanesh has something in his pocket for you.

Don't be alarmed, it's only a Salty Snack for cadian512.
And Uncle Slaanesh did not just suggest cadian512 to get into the Van with "Free Candy" painted on the side of it...

Sanctjud wrote:^MOAR PROPAGANDA!!!

Haddi wrote:Uncle Slaanesh has something in his pocket for you.

Don't be alarmed, it's only a Salty Snack for cadian512.
And Uncle Slaanesh did not just suggest cadian512 to get into the Van with "Free Candy" painted on the side of it...

Come on cadian513, Uncle Slaanesh sounds legit.

Ekki vera kona.

(Now, was that MOAR PROPOGANDA an ANGRY moar propoganda, or, was it appreciative of it...I can't read tone over the Arpanet!)

I really hope that once we hit V6, and the Golden Throne fails, and the Emperor dies, something really nasty happens to the Blood Angels.

They have a lot of potential, but as they are right now, they're a living contradiction. Unstoppable insane deathrapewarriors who continue to be among the Emperor's finest, y'know?

I'm very interested to see what happens once the Imperium begins to crumble.

And oh, will it ever crumble.

If this thread was going someplace it could, and it would...


But... no.