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So far the project is going great so if you havent already, read through and contribute your ideas!

KmoH

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I like the general idea and I'm all for creating fluff, however I think some things are best left alone and the 2 missing chapters are one of those things IMHO.

Just Dave wrote:I like the general idea and I'm all for creating fluff, however I think some things are best left alone and the 2 missing chapters are one of those things IMHO.

Do you not think of the possibility of GW leaving those two chapters alone for the purpose of fans to play in it and use it as there sandbox? It's obviously just a thought but even if its not the two chapters there is still always the community project of creating a chapter like Heresy online, (I hope its ok to mention other sites) they have a seperate thread for making a traitor legion and have made an entire codex, colour scheme, characters and more! It brought the entire forum together and thats my goal. I woould love to see the community here on dakka getting involved to make a chapter, like a collective mind in some ways. Certain ideas are passed around some people disagree and say there's a problem with this but here is how you can improve.

-Basically-
What im trying to say is imagine what 100+ (possibly) people can accomplish in making a chapter?
I probably sound like a crazy scientist with a ton of problems that I need to get sorted out but meh

Kmoh

It is an interesting idea actually.

A lot of possibilities for sure.

Th3ee Legged Dog wrote:It is an interesting idea actually.

A lot of possibilities for sure.

Thanks Feel free to post any ideas you might have.

Oh yeah, these chapters were left alone so the player/customer could create their own, however I don't think any fluff I could come up with atleast could do them justice and they'd have limited scope as it's fairly established they were lost and didn't play much (if any) role during the heresy...
Just a Personal Opinion, good luck with this otherwise, it's a good cause but it's not for me.

I can't see 100 odd people agreeing exactly on fluff.
There will be debates.

VikingScott wrote:I can't see 100 odd people agreeing exactly on fluff.
There will be debates.

On the internet?! Noooo.

A fair number of people will be capable of working together I reckon, but over something like this I agree there would be A LOT of debates. If it wasn't the internet, of course!

Those debates could turn into flamewars, which would be bad.
However, if the folks can co-operate for long enough, who knows?...

Agreed. However, on the OP's behalf: "Less worrying and more constructing, eh?"

Thanks I honestly dont mind debates as that is part of this. Once the debates produce something and dont just make people want to kill eachother As Just Dave said "Less worrying and more constructing, eh?"

Kmoh


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So first up. Anyone have a name?
I would like to submit my own chapters name: Children of Eden.

Kmoh

I think before we think of a name, we'd need to think of their Chaos God they worship.

You're assuming that they're traitor, worship Chaos and a Chaos god in particular...

Hmm, I'm not sure of a good name then.

To be honest, I'm not sure a name is the best place to start (as you said), maybe several different themes such as specialisation, Primarch, colours etc. could help develop a name?

I think it's a difficult place to start as you have an almost completely blank canvas...


(I'm getting a lot more involved then I said I would aren't I? )

Just Dave wrote:To be honest, I'm not sure a name is the best place to start (as you said), maybe several different themes such as specialisation, Primarch, colours etc. could help develop a name?

I think it's a difficult place to start as you have an almost completely blank canvas...


(I'm getting a lot more involved then I said I would aren't I? )

I actually think you had a good order of brainstorming! (Love that word ) I think start with their specialization, such as stealth w/ raptors, berserkers, etc. Then their Primarch, it seems to me that a legions colors often reflect their main allegiance, if we were to specify a god that they were "Enticed" by or something like that, I think we should think of colors and their god at the same time. THEN name.

or all at the same time?!

I'm just trying to help as it's really Kravus' thread!

Btw, I heard that brainstorm was seen by some as 'politically incorrect' and should be replaced with 'thought shower'! it's true!

Just Dave wrote:Btw, I heard that brainstorm was seen by some as 'politically incorrect' and should be replaced with 'thought shower'! it's true!

I like brain rain! But thats besides the point..

I think that we should get some volunteers to think up around 10-15 if Dakka Dakka really wants to do this.

This is the thing i'm trying to get through, it's not MY thread it's OUR thread and I think I agree with the idea of thinking colours and god before name.
- Maybe Khorne, close combat is always pretty fun, but remember there's two missing chapters so we have to think of two. Obviously one after the other and not at the same time as that would be confusing and a little hard to control.

KmoH


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revackey wrote:

Just Dave wrote:Btw, I heard that brainstorm was seen by some as 'politically incorrect' and should be replaced with 'thought shower'! it's true!

I like brain rain! But thats besides the point..

I think that we should get some volunteers to think up around 10-15 if Dakka Dakka really wants to do this.

I agree brain rain does sound pretty cool

Kmoh

Well if were doing Khorne, Red and Gold are their friends mostly. I would want to switch it up like this:

Nevermind. Google Chrome destroys my links.


Just throwing ideas out there.


My pics never work...forget it...

Obviously the lost Legion is the Venus Blades.

Their Primarch, Minervian was the only female primarch, and commanded the only all female legion, as the Emperor would not want to waste he potential of humanity's womenfolk to be Astartes. As such he created a separate set of Space Marine organs designed to work with female hormones, though otherwise identical to their testoserone-keyed counterparts.

The Emperor, fearing the unending wailing of the fluff nazis, had their records expunged.

*Disclaimer: The Venus Blades and associated fluff above is satirical. Still my idea, still something I want to actually do one of these days.*

Commander Endova wrote:Obviously the lost Legion is the Venus Blades.

Their Primarch, Minervian was the only female primarch, and commanded the only all female legion, as the Emperor would not want to waste he potential of humanity's womenfolk to be Astartes. As such he created a separate set of Space Marine organs designed to work with female hormones, though otherwise identical to their testoserone-keyed counterparts.

The Emperor, fearing the unending wailing of the fluff nazis, had their records expunged.

*Disclaimer: The Venus Blades and associated fluff above is satirical. Still my idea, still something I want to actually do one of these days.*

Wow thats really good... But yes it was pretty obvious that that was one of the lost legions Just kidding but fell free to submit it although everyone else on dakka would probably kill you!

KmoH

Just throwing my theory I've always had concerning the lost two legions that I've wanted to write fluff for but haven't gotten to it over everything else.

My theory is that one of the Legions turned to Chaos and in response the Emperor tasked the other Legion to hunt them down. In the following conflicts the traitor Legion was destroyed and the loyal Legion that was sent to destroy them suffered such severe casulties (including their primarch) that they where either disbanded or there was no one left.

In order to protect the greater Imperium as well as try to prevent future heresy the Emperor had all records of the lost Legions expunged from Imperial records and fabricated a story which he told to the primarchs to keep them ignorant of the gods of Chaos so that they would not be tempted by the darkness.

You can use it if you want or not it dosen't matter to me, just thought I'd throw it out there

I was thinking about an idea for a Primarch not too long ago actually lol. It went along the lines that the emperor created the Primarch and his legion to be far more intelligent then any other Legion. However they became so vastly intelligent that they could create entire worlds in their dreams, using their vast intelligence to make them feel real. They possessed no urge to help the Emperor in anyway as their dream worlds were so life like that they seemed real and the real world seemed to be the dream.
Seeing the vast capabilities in the Legion Tzeentch heightened the physic capabilities of the Legion. A single fleeting thought could be translated into the real world. A marine could merely think of something for it to appear. These things did not truly exist however, they merely were a figment of the imagination. but if one marine were to, create as such, a bolter round penetrating the armour of another marine, then it would seem so real that the brain would simulate the effects of it, triggering nerve reactions, causing extreme pain, effectively incapacitating the marine.
All of this was inspired from Inception lol. Still haven't come up with a weakness for them yet. It's very much WIP.
EDIT: I am also very happy to contribute to this. I think the idea has merit. I mean the Dornian Heresy project and Bolter and Chainsword worked out quite well.

Most of these ideas are rather similar to existing chapters and a lot of the ideas of Chaos seem to be crediting the gods of Chaos to a) give a damn b) be nice. Chaos is an donkey-cave. Maybe a legion praising Chaos undivided or whatever that god was called before copyright got their hands on it.

For their other half, the loyal and less traitorous half, I was thinking along the lines of a legions that was actually a bit on the short side. You know kind of like dwarfs in space. I'm not sure what they'd be called though...

Maybe Squa-*Gets shot in the back of the head by a GW employed Vindicare Assassin*
And for that other Chaos god you are talking about could you possibly be referring to Malal?

Possibly? I'm not sure...anyways point being that I don't really see any of the legions gaining any real favour as a whole...I mostly they get shafted and get the odd benefit that probably was not intended. Like the Thousand Sons for example.

If there was a legion that did praise Chaos Undivided I'm assuming they'd just be flying rodent gak crazy and go around doing whatever they pleased. In fact, they'd probably break down into smaller warbands. They'd warrant enough of a threat to get the other mystery legion to give chase, but no more than that? Just expanding on someone else's idea.

I bring you...colors... (was saving these for the create a chapter comp )

EDIT: I was gonna use the top scheme for my own version of 2nd legion (coming eventually), but they're all marked for 2nd legion 5th company (knee pad markings)

Love to see some of those schemes translated onto Forge World's new Heresy Power Armour stes

I'm particularly happy with the top one, I plan on using it myself eventually. The others are the inventions of boredom and my fiance