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I am not sure what the exact story is behind this picture, or the exact tournament... but maybe someone out there can tell me for sure??
The story i heard what that the white scars player (in white shirt) had their entire army in reserve, the tau player (black shirt) infiltrated his Kroot and created the line along board edge with his infiltrate move, and thus blocking the the white scars player from being able to enter the battle field... at all?? How accurate is this story?? would this strategy even work?? You can see the judge (in safety vest...no i don't know why he is wearing it) and the white scars player searching the rules.... so basically in this unlikely scenario.. is it possible to win before the game has officially started????

You make Da Call!!

Uhhh.. I've seen in it happen in Apocalypse........
But not in a regular game.......
Wtf......
That is just a dick move....

God this is so old.
Tau-insta win no matter what way you rule it.
The game went full points to the smiling guy.
They played again anyway for fun.

Yeah, it is an actual event. Can't remember what tournament it was at though. Happened a while ago.


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Asherian Command wrote:That is just a dick move....

Nooo! Not this argument again!

Is this really that old??? i have never seen it before and a friend of mine sent it to me, he just got back from a tourney trip so i thought it was something from that lol.
and yes, yes it is a pretty dastardly move, i'd do it myself... if i didn't want to sleep at night.


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SilverMK2 wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:That is just a dick move....

Nooo! Not this argument again!

sorry guys, not trying to re-hash any old wounds, just trying to get some info on this pic.

Yes its over a year old.

Sarnath666 wrote:Yes its over a year old.

Good to know, so its a fifth ed pic?? As in, whether or not this is or isn't a dick move, its legal under the current rules??? If so, how does one PREVENT this from happening to ones self?? -Deploying at least one unit??

I dont know...go find a dude in a red vest. Maybe he can tell you.

Sarnath666 wrote:I dont know...go find a dude in a red vest. Maybe he can tell you.

uh, sure.... thanks?

This is 100% legal and an awesome move. High-five to the savvy Tau player.

This, kids, is why you don't hold an entire army in reserve when your opponent has hordes of infiltrators.

It happened at last years European Team Championship, and while I have not seen a picture surface, I understand it also happened at this year's ETC. So yes, it was 5th ed.

As for legality, well, it's not covered in the rules what happens to a unit that is unable to enter play due to this scenario. IMO, yes, the unit is destroyed. I base this opinion on the only time GW ever addressed the issue, back when SW Scouts first got Behind Enemy Lines. At that time, GW said that a SW Scout unit was destroyed if they were unable to enter due to an enemy 'picket fence'. If you use it, this is also the INAT answer.

And yes, to prevent it, all you have to do is deploy one model, just enough to keep the opponent from infiltrating along your board edge. So sacrifice something so that the rest of your army can start in Reserves. Also note that it doesn't work against skimmers, jump troops and tanks as they can go over or through the models blocking the board edge.

One would think that you wouldn't hold your entire army in reserve in the first place unless there was a guaranteed way of getting them onto the board, i.e. drop pod.
in a casual game.. that is a pretty d*ck move.....
in a tournament.... d*ck moves turn into strategy.

hcordes wrote:One would think that you wouldn't hold your entire army in reserve in the first place unless there was a guaranteed way of getting them onto the board, i.e. drop pod.

One would think.

Kilkrazy wrote:Please do not engage in Gaybashing, spam threads or impersonating a Moderator.

Common sense should tell you that it is a bad thing to do.

? Not sure what that means Sarnath, care to enlighten us.

Hmm... Is it time for another one of these threads already... must remember to set my watch.

we really need an "eyeroll" emoticon.

:eyeroll:

Sarnath666 wrote:FAGCAKES

i am sorry if this post doesn't interest you at all... or you are somehow offended by it. You have previous experience with this picture and this scenario... i did not until now. I am sorry I was not as up to date on 40k tourney scene as you are. But that is no reason to be mean and through around nasty slurs.

I struggle with simple things !

What iduoit would put his entire army in reserve and have no backup plan? Like drop pods?

Sarnath666 wrote:I'm sorry...let me elaborate. It was a flawless win on the tau players part but he is obviously a fagcake for not losing any models while winning. Typical tau player no respect for the Blood god.

why would tau have anything to do with the blood god in the first place, much less respect what he represents?? did this happen to you and you are bitter? ((not trying to be a d*ck myself, just curious)) I don't think it makes him a "fagcake" ((whatever that is)) it makes him a dastardly bastard but that's about it.. it was a tournament, and in a tournament i would do the same thing, in a casual game i would not.

hcordes wrote:"fagcake" ((whatever that is))

I assumed it was some kind of baked confection featuring cigarettes.

Truth be told, sounds entirely unappetizing, but to each his/her own, I guess.

Asherian Command wrote:What iduoit...

Ah, Irony rears it's funny little head...

... This is one of those occasions I am torn between my desire to slay the smiling guy for trying that move on me,
or to secretly give in to my desire to do that to somone, just to ruin their day.

SlaveToDorkness wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:What idiot...

Ah, Irony rears it's funny little head...

What me? I miss spelled. Thats how I use to spell it.....
I suck at grammar, and spelling sometimes.

Sarnath666 wrote:I'm sorry...let me elaborate. It was a flawless win on the tau players part but he is obviously a fagcake for not losing any models while winning. Typical tau player no respect for the Blood god.

So you insult him because the White Scars player was an idiot? Or is it just players that score a victory while losing zero models (I've done it, BTW, with my IG). I can (almost) understand those that call him unsporting, even tho I disagree. But random insults. I don't get it.

My question is if the white scars player had vehicles in his list, would he be able to tank shock onto the board?

Viper217 wrote:My question is if the white scars player had vehicles in his list, would he be able to tank shock onto the board?

good question..... but doesn't the tank have to have an official starting spot? and off table doesn't count for that...... or does it?

Yes, perfectly legal to tankshock / ram onto the board.

Viper217 wrote:My question is if the white scars player had vehicles in his list, would he be able to tank shock onto the board?

Where would he measure distance from? There is no way to measure from a unit off of the board. Also to tank shock you have to give up normal movement which means he couldn't move onto the board. There are no rules to answer all of these questions so it was ruled in the Tau's favor. It was the easiest way to go.

Viper217 wrote:My question is if the white scars player had vehicles in his list, would he be able to tank shock onto the board?

Good question. I'd say no, since you must "first turn the vehicle on the spot in the direction you intend to move it and declare how many inches the vehicles is going to move."

How can you turn the vehicle on the spot if it's not on the board?