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So we've been throwing around different builds and playtesting them at our FLGS, but cannot ever beat guard. I'm talking full-mech, cookie-cutter IG with a crap ton of vets in chimeras, hydras, couple vendettas, artillery, reserve hq, battle psykers, and sometimes a fat infantry blob surrounding his tanks, etc. In the hands of a good player.
A BOLS article seemed to reach the same conclusion: paper vehicles don't cut it in 5th.
Its just too much shooting at uber fragile units. Hell, if your close enough to charge, then the chimera can take down ur vehicle, while the crew shreds another, or rapid fires your crew... Sit back and lance doesn't work as they have way more damaging shots. Turbo forward in their face doesn't either, they still leaf-blower you off the board and battle psyker your scariest unit. We've tried mass lance, wyches, harlies, vect/baron lists, haemonculi lists, mass heat-lances, webway, etc. So what if you pop a few vehciles? The crew still kills you, and there is splenty more spam/redundency in the army.
Any ideas from the Dakka community on how the ultimate glass cannon can hope to beat the Leaf-blower?
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