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Enigmatic Sorcerer of Chaos





Buena Park, CA

Firstly, I apologies if this has already been brought up (I'm almost positive it has, for various reasons) but I could not find anything about it if my life depended on it.
So the question at hand is as follows...
What is the maximum "rank bonus" for units in 8th edition? Or what is a rank bonus classified as in general?
I realize that in terms of combat resolution, the max number of "extra ranks" you are allowed is +3. But no where in the text does is use the term "rank bonus," not to mention this is primarily for combat use and not as a general rule of ranks.
The problem at hand here is Mork's Spirit-Totem, it specifies that, "This magic banner adds a number of dispel dice to the pool equal to the unit's rank bonus." However, this does not include a rank bonus cap like other items such as Porko's Pigstikka which says,
"On the turn the wielder charges, he recieves an additional attack for each point of rank bonus the unit he is attacking has (up to a maximum of +3)"

I couldn't find anything in the Rulebook nor the FAQ's so Im a bit confused. As of current, and since the start of 8th I have always played it as a maximum of 3, because I never bothered to look into it.

Once again I apologies for what is probably a repeat of erlier discussed topics, but I just couldnt find anything on said subject!
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut




Your rank bonus is the extra ranks you claim in close combat. That's where the bonus language is from "... you can claim a bonus of +1 combat result for each rank of five or models behind the fighting rank . . . up to a maximum of +3"

So 3 is the max for the spirit totem.
   
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Commanding Orc Boss




Even if you try to RaW your way out of this, everyone (other than beginners) know 100% that "rank BONUS" means capped at 3.

So just dont...

I hate hard counters. In a game of rock, paper, scissors, I hate playing any of the factions because no matter what you choose you might as well not deploy against your hard counter. I want to use a gun. Rock, paper, and scissors could all probably still beat gun, but gun will never feel like a game is a lost cause. 
   
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos





On the perfumed wind

The Porko's pig stikka limitation could come in to play with certain special banners, like the Griffon Standard (doubles it) or the undead one (don't remember the name, but allows up to a +4 rank bonus).

But yes, Spirit-Totem caps out at 3.

RZ

“It was in lands of the Chi-An where she finally ran him to ground. There she kissed him deeply as he lay dying, and so stole from him his last, agonized breath.

On a delicate chain at her throat, she keeps it with her to this day.”
 
   
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Enigmatic Sorcerer of Chaos





Buena Park, CA

Aight, I reread a few more things after the post and couldn't agree more. And actually zeekill, I wasn't trying to find a loophole, more or less just clarifying that I have actually been playing the right way.

Thanks for the replies.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut




Red_Zeke wrote:The Porko's pig stikka limitation could come in to play with certain special banners, like the Griffon Standard (doubles it) or the undead one (don't remember the name, but allows up to a +4 rank bonus).

But yes, Spirit-Totem caps out at 3.

RZ
I think the Pig Stikka specifically mentions it caps at +3, whereas the Spirit Totem leaves itself vague. The thing is, said Spirit Totem doesn't matter about vagueness as there is no unlimited rank bonus, only +3 (for O&G), so the max it'll ever get is +3. Unless you're playing in a GW Megabattle and the store gives you permission to use another army's characters in your units, that's all you're getting (for good reason too: +6DD from O&G would pretty much shut out any opposing player's magic phase then and there, since with the Staff of Sneaky Stealin' you'd always have at least a one-DD edge over the caster, up to a maximum of a 7 DD advantage).
   
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos





On the perfumed wind

That's exactly what I said, though. I was trying to point out reasons that Porko's pig stikka even needed to bother with the "max 3" limitation.

“It was in lands of the Chi-An where she finally ran him to ground. There she kissed him deeply as he lay dying, and so stole from him his last, agonized breath.

On a delicate chain at her throat, she keeps it with her to this day.”
 
   
 
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