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2010/12/19 22:24:43
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2010/12/20 11:27:35
Subject: Re:Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Fixture of Dakka
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anyone got any comments? feel free! 
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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2010/12/20 12:10:49
Subject: Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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all in all i think it is a good story. as i am not really the man to tell someone else to check spelling i shouldn´t really tell you so, but...
also the last paragraph should get spaced out more as it was rather painfull to read that wall of text. and if i had a final tip to add i would as a matter of style write the numbers instead of adding the acual nummers...so better eight instead of 8...
but then good writing and will you update it?
vik
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2010/12/20 12:15:18
Subject: Re:Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Fixture of Dakka
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yep. every time I think of new fluff! I shall edit it now...
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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2010/12/20 12:27:34
Subject: Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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coll will be waiting...by the way you ylready got schoolfreetime or what?
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2010/12/20 12:32:25
Subject: Re:Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Fixture of Dakka
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yep. hols. yay!!!!!!!
go back 3rd january
and it's snowing! first day of holiday and we got 6 inches! most snow we've have in decades!
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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2010/12/20 12:46:42
Subject: Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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seems to me that i should ask for my money back. i ordered for global warming and desert like climate in mid europe and all we get is this nasty weird white stuff on streets and our heads...is that what i call good customer service? nay!
enjoy your free time! by the way will you getting a cam for xmas? hint hint...hehe^^
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2010/12/20 12:48:01
Subject: Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Fixture of Dakka
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Viktor von Domm wrote:seems to me that i should ask for my money back. i ordered for global warming and desert like climate in mid europe and all we get is this nasty weird white stuff on streets and our heads...is that what i call good customer service? nay!
enjoy your free time! by the way will you getting a cam for xmas? hint hint...hehe^^
actually, my mum got a really expensive professional camera earlier this week- but it's my laptop, not the camera. it won't copy image location.
and actually- it has been proven that blighty will actually be cooling- the warm air currents will move and we'll get COLDER.
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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2010/12/20 12:49:36
Subject: Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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ups cant help you there as i only use the whole stuff and cant quite figure out a lot of the stuff myself...
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2010/12/20 13:01:15
Subject: Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Fixture of Dakka
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Viktor von Domm wrote: cant quite figure out a lot of the stuff myself...
I am a one-in-a-million kid- I don't understand technology. I know how to use most stuff in everyday life, just when people go "you need to unplug the USB socket, connect it to port B, locate the file, download jpeg and then...." and i'm sat on my chair like:
"  " but thinking "    "
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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2010/12/20 13:16:58
Subject: Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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well you live and you learn little padawan^^
its just when i hear talk about formating disks and firewalls that i tend to "nod" off..^^
i just recently dicovered me liking heavy toolmanstools^^ to do my bidding so to convert and model for 40k stuff...
vik
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2010/12/20 13:55:51
Subject: Re:Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Fixture of Dakka
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okay- there is now the third and final leader of the muninn battle company- Chaplain Praxis!
the battlegroup name is now called Gungnir (Odin's spear) to relate to muninn and stuff.
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I bring you Commander Lenore:
fluff section is in the article.
points: 200.
WS6 BS5 S4 T4(5) A3 W3 I5 Ld10 Sv2+
Wargear:
master-crafted power fist
artificier armour
iron halo
extensive bionics- as much machine as he is man, Lenore gains +1T, as if he is on a bike (so he can still be ID'ed by S8 stuff)
plasma pistol- If it overheats, he ignores it, because all his parts that would be damaged by it have already been replaced.
special rules:
feel no pain
eternal warrior
ATSKNF
combat tactics- a sergeant in the army may be selected to be "Venerable", meaning he has FNP.
hard as nails- Lenore is so tough, on the turn he dies, on a 3+, he gets back up with 1 wound remaining. This may only happen once.
legendary resilience- due to his legend, all friendly units within 18" of him may use his Ld.
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Chaplain Praxis- 165pts
WS5 BS4 S4 T4 A3 W3 I5 Ld10 Sv2+
Wargear:
TDA
heavy flamer
crozius arcanum
rosarius
special rules:
honour of the legion:
he, his unit, and all friendly models within 12" are gain furious charge and are fearless.
Skull helm: Praxis must delare death or glory if he can. When he does so, he immediately counts as S6 and rolls 2D6 for armour pentration for the rest of the player turn.
liturgies of battle: his unit can re-roll failed rolls to hit when they charge.
war cry: all enemy models within 12" must take a morale check. all models who lost combat to Praxis have -1Ld for the rest of the game.
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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2010/12/20 22:10:53
Subject: Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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didn´t you at first wrote that the chapter strength is about 3000? now in the tale of paxis you suddenly account for 20 000? did i get something wrong? and a further thing. although i lkie the way you write your fluff you seem to switch/jump from man speach to ork speach in the same paragraph, i wouldn´t recommend that in your story. you write the whole thing from the SM perspective i think as it would make more sense. direct speach of orks is good, provided you don´t actually use their perspective...
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2010/12/20 22:14:18
Subject: Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Fixture of Dakka
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Viktor von Domm wrote:didn´t you at first wrote that the chapter strength is about 3000? now in the tale of paxis you suddenly account for 20 000? did i get something wrong? and a further thing. although i lkie the way you write your fluff you seem to switch/jump from man speach to ork speach in the same paragraph, i wouldn´t recommend that in your story. you write the whole thing from the SM perspective i think as it would make more sense. direct speach of orks is good, provided you don´t actually use their perspective...
vik
okey dokey! edited!
the story was set before the chaplain reached his rank- before istvaan. before- 20,000. after- 3,000.
what to you think of the SC's?
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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2010/12/20 22:16:40
Subject: Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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ah ok, and what about the rest of my suggestions?
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2010/12/20 22:19:11
Subject: Re:Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Fixture of Dakka
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what about them? I have edited the article based on them. have I missed any?
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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2010/12/20 22:19:48
Subject: Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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ha head nutting chaplain sound like a good idea... all the more if he´s headnutting a big bad ork^^
the SC rules looks sound but take again in mind that i am a noob to rules. but they make sense. only thing i would point out is, are there further options to take? the whole feal no pian and also ATSKNF i would personally asociate more to the chaplain, but tahts again me and not known of the rules^^ ...
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2010/12/20 22:27:15
Subject: Re:Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Fixture of Dakka
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all SM have ATSKNF. his extra attack i because:
the headbutt thing
heresy-chaplains were more revolved around fighting- the emperor wanted warriors, not prayers.
should I make a libby SC?
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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2010/12/20 22:33:31
Subject: Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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oh i thought your libby Epistolary Audax was already a SC...
aren´t they automaticaly SC´s?
i like the headbutting the best^^ if i was wearing a skullike helmet i would generally headbutt people..:
"Hello chaplain, had a nice breakfast?"
*headbutt* "sure, thanks for asking" *headbutt*
vik
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2010/12/20 22:57:57
Subject: Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Fixture of Dakka
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Viktor von Domm wrote:oh i thought your libby Epistolary Audax was already a SC...
aren´t they automaticaly SC´s?
i like the headbutting the best^^ if i was wearing a skullike helmet i would generally headbutt people..:
"Hello chaplain, had a nice breakfast?"
*headbutt* "sure, thanks for asking" *headbutt*
vik
automatically IC's... so Audax SC- yes? BTW edited chaplain rules 
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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2010/12/20 22:59:58
Subject: Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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would say so...what is the main difference from IC to SC? i think i learn here a lot for my own future gaming^^
vik
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2010/12/21 01:17:24
Subject: Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Crafty Bray Shaman
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You forgot to mention Chuck Norris.... 
I'm just messing with you. No worries.
It's nice to see fluff set up, usually it's just a horde of space men, but you actually took time to have a background to your army.
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2010/12/21 09:32:51
Subject: Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Fixture of Dakka
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Viktor von Domm wrote:would say so...what is the main difference from IC to SC? i think i learn here a lot for my own future gaming^^
vik
SC's are the named characters, like marneus calgar, yarrick, eldrad, ect. IC's are unnamed, like captains, lord commissars or farseers
A Black Ram wrote:It's nice to see fluff set up, usually it's just a horde of space men, but you actually took time to have a background to your army.
I like to actually have a background, as you say, instead of just a load of guys.
I give you...Epistolary Audax!
points- 185pts
WS5 BS4 S4 T4 A3 I4 W2 Ld10 Sv3+
Wargear
Force weapon (master-crafted)
combi-melta (master-crafted)
hellfire rounds
jump pack
Special rules
Epistolary
Psyker
Unnaturally talented: The epistolary has literally risen through the ranks in a matter of decades, becoming the youngest space marine to become a codicier. he has become so adept at the wielding of his force weapon, when using it, it does not count as having used a psychic power.
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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2010/12/21 12:40:39
Subject: Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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inept at the wielding of his force weapon
that sounds funny, be sure to model him with a pose and sulking face as if he just failed an attack with a psychic power^^
also my armies will have all named characters, even if i dont make rules for each of them, still every one will get a nametag...
i hope then by doing this i wont get them so lighthearted to be slaughtered...
vik
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2010/12/21 12:57:38
Subject: Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Fixture of Dakka
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Viktor von Domm wrote:inept at the wielding of his force weapon
that sounds funny, be sure to model him with a pose and sulking face as if he just failed an attack with a psychic power^^
also my armies will have all named characters, even if i dont make rules for each of them, still every one will get a nametag...
i hope then by doing this i wont get them so lighthearted to be slaughtered...
vik
whoops I meant "adept"  
BTW I know primarchs had thier own "honour guard", but did commanders have any retinue?
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new character!
Veteran sergeant Validus- 50 points
may replace one sternguard, honour guard, command squad, devestator squad, or tactical squad sergeant with veteran sergeant Validus for 50pts.
WS4 BS5 S4 T4 A3 I4 W2 Ld9 Sv3+
wargear:
power fist
storm bolter
hellfire rounds (if in a sternguard unit, he replaces these with the special issue ammunition)
special rules:
ATSKNF
combat tactics
hold the line! ( pg.90 of C: SM)
may take any sergeant upgrade listed in the correct entry for free.
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what do you think to muninn founding a chapter? I always wanted to do an orange SM army...
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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2010/12/22 13:02:07
Subject: Article Discussion: User:shrike
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no please for the mercy of the paintgods, dont do a orange sm army...i instantly see cons and our local wastedisposal crew before my eyes...
also i think the name corveus is a bit downtrodden, dont you think so too?
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2010/12/22 15:59:33
Subject: Re:Article Discussion: User:shrike
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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2010/12/22 21:05:24
Subject: Re:Article Discussion: User:shrike
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i´d stick to the fire hawks...the name sounds good and the paintscheme looks serious and respectable...
the other finds for orange paintschemes made me think:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sebastian_grote/4809670007/ sooooo i wouldnt go that route...
sometimes i think all the good paintschemes are already taken...if you want to actually get something cool looking i would recommed going deathwing DA but instead of green for trims tie them in to the bloodravens by means of adding black as trims...really i think you cant get cooler than that bone color for armorpaint...its like a colored middlefinger in the face of your oponent ....well at least for me^^
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2010/12/22 21:17:57
Subject: Re:Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Fixture of Dakka
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As much as I love fire hawks (and LotD), I want to have a RG sucessor, and I like the dull orange/yellow thing going on. This new chapter will be after my DKoK, GK and current raven guard, but still...
basically:
now until christmas- raven guard BA.
christmas until march-ish- DKoK.
march-ish until may- raven guard BA.
may until summer hols- GK.
summer hols and beyond- "bespoke talons" (sucessor chapter).
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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2010/12/22 21:25:01
Subject: Article Discussion: User:shrike
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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quite a schedule you have there^^, where again have you that printing press situated?... seems like a vast amount of money to come to GW and GW in the next time...
oh and had a look and i meant ravenguard not blood ravens here...
i also meant stick to the paintjob not the actual fire hawks...as they do look cool, also i like the pre heresy armor the show in your link...and flames always look cool on minis...
vik
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