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Hey all! my apologies if this is covered elsewhere but needed some advise!

my problem is as follows:
the other day my friend and i played our first game of high elves vs skaven, myself on the side of the chittering vermin. I was looking forward to the battle only to find 10 seconds into it teclis virtually flattened my army!

my plan was to use deathmaster skitch to take him out but i i didnt even get the chance to get near him before he wiped out 70 clanrats with that phoneix fire spell from high magic.

it completely puts me off playing skaven vs HE again knowing hes going to repeatedly use teclis and ruin my chances before they start!

Any advise of what i can do to slightly even the field????
All replies GREATLY appreciated maximosa

why not do the same to him with 13th spell or warpfire throwers?
The key to stopping teclis is to destroy the rest of his army. This works best in non-VP games like Blood and Glory.
Either way its an uphill battle. The best thing to do is hit him the same way he hits you, thus leveling the playing field to who can do it better and faster.
Also a feedback scroll or the like for one of those rare times he doesnt irresistable.

Leith wrote:why not do the same to him with 13th spell or warpfire throwers?.

i was thinking of using 13th spell on his unit (if he is in 1) but my slight issue with this tactic is that my grey seer and plague preist just cannot match teclis. His irresistable force is just insanely good for his points! out of interest if teclis was within 3" of a unit and i used 13th on him could he get look out sir roll on a 4+?

ideally i think my best tactic is to kill the git because his phoneix fire spell and the 1 thats desproys magic items are just too effective against skaven. my big issue is how do i get to him?

Well remember he has to meet the casting value of the spell even if he rolls doubles (outside of double 6's).

Take a feedback scroll like Leith said. That one item had me rethink how to protect my lvl 4.

With Skaven you should have plenty of bodies that him killing a unit shouldn't be that bad. How many points are you guys playing?

If you need to get there and kill him in combat something fast is preferable. I can't really help there as I don't play skaven but a HPA or Doomwheel may do the trick.

Killing Teclis in melee is ideal, but he will likely be very able to prevent that whith his plethora of spell options. Id say Warp lighening cannon his unit to dust and wait for him to either fail Lookousir, or not have enough models left to shield him. The trick to casting against teclis with the skaven is eating warpstone tokens to hit the big number of something like the dreaded 13th, and hoping for Irresistable force... the miscast may kill you, but that spell can be crazy when it gets through even once.

Also spamming HPA and/or doomwheels can overwhelm even Teclis's killing potential, after all you can get one of both for less than his cost.

Try to get 13th of on 6 dice and hope for a miscast, thats all i can suggest.