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Hey. I picked up a night goblin army a while ago, and had a lot of fun with it. Now, with the new book coming out, I wanted to try something with orcs (at the very least, I wanted to try a few games while the old book is still around, since it seems to be doing crazy good). The list is supposed to be aggressive and suicidal; hopefully they die before I do. As always though, I'm trying to do things a little differently than the majority of lists out there:

1- Orc great shaman (Level 4, Obsidian Loadstone, Powerscroll) 295

1- Savage Orc Big Boss (Battle standard, Charmed Shield, Obsidian Amulet, Martog's Best Basha) 155
1- Orc shaman (Level 2, Dispel Scroll) 130
1- Night goblin big boss (Light armour, Wollopa's One Hit Wunda, Tricksy Trinket, Potion of Speed) 79
1- Night goblin big boss (Light armour, great weapon, Brimestone Bauble) 61
1- Night goblin big boss (Light armour, Sword of Might) 46
1- Night goblin big boss (Light armour, great weapon, Madcap Mushrooms) 56

24- Savage Orcs (extra choppas, full command) 270
24- Savage Orcs (full command) 222
40- Night Goblins (Nets, full command, 3 fanatics) 225
40- Night Goblins (Nets, full command, 3 fanatics) 225

6- Trolls (1999)

Total: 2000
Models: 149
Units: 5
Fortitude: 8

The great shaman goes in one of the orc units, the BSB in the other. Two goblin bosses each go in the gobbo units. Pretty straightforward. Move forward, release fanatics, Waaagh!, and hopefully the 3+ and 4+ Ward versus magic will help...maybe? Would this work? A little?

Warpsolution wrote:Hey. I picked up a night goblin army a while ago, and had a lot of fun with it. Now, with the new book coming out, I wanted to try something with orcs (at the very least, I wanted to try a few games while the old book is still around, since it seems to be doing crazy good). The list is supposed to be aggressive and suicidal; hopefully they die before I do. As always though, I'm trying to do things a little differently than the majority of lists out there:

1- Orc great shaman (Level 4, Obsidian Loadstone, Powerscroll) 295
good but hwy not make him savage
1- Savage Orc Big Boss (Battle standard, Charmed Shield, Obsidian Amulet, Martog's Best Basha) 155
i like
1- Orc shaman (Level 2, Dispel Scroll) 130
again like
1- Night goblin big boss (Light armour, shield, Wollopa's One Hit Wunda, Tricksy Trinket, Potion of Speed) 79
1- Night goblin big boss (Light armour, great weapon, Brimestone Bauble) 61
1- Night goblin big boss (Light armour, shield, Lucky's Dirk) 41
1- Night goblin big boss (Light armour, great weapon, Madcap Mushrooms) 56
i would just give the bosses a great weapon and light armour to keep them cheap. all your really going to need them for are the extra A
24- Savage Orcs (extra choppas, full command) 270
24- Savage Orcs (full command) 222
40- Night Goblins (Nets, full command, 3 fanatics) 225
40- Night Goblins (Nets, full command, 3 fanatics) 225
id be wary of having so many fanatics you dont want to tap yourself behind you own fanatic wall incase you roll low. I would say take 2 in each unit instead of 3.
6- Trolls (1999)
look fine some people might say make them stone but the points spent just become unbarable keeping them vanilla is good
Total: 1999
Models: 149
Units: 5
Fortitude: 8

The great shaman goes in one of the orc units, the BSB in the other. Two goblin bosses each go in the gobbo units. Pretty straightforward. Move forward, release fanatics, Waaagh!, and hopefully the 3+ and 4+ Ward versus magic will help...maybe? Would this work? A little?

Other than my suggestions above i would say get a night gobbo shaman in here with staff of sneaky stealing. If you make this army bigger i would suggest getting some lobbas and chukkas in here aswell,I know it doesnt fit the theme but a unit of ocrs with morks spirit totem will do you wonders.

Thanks for the input. Yeah, I basically found zero reasons to have a savage orc shaman. I wanted a gobbo with the Staff, but I thought it'd be more useful to know all the lores of the Big Waaagh!. My original list had a lvl4 gobbo shaman with the staff though, so after playing this a few times, I might opt for it anyway.

I mostly agree with the gob bosses; the only issue I see with just the bare axe and armour is: 2 wounds at T4 that ASL. So I tossed in a few different options, mainly to get them to hit at Initiative. I've changed a thing or two up there now, though. The only one I know I"m keeping around is the 79 point one. He can (basically) always dent a fighty lord, and he might kill 'em, if he's lucky on the To Hit rolls. Madcap mushrooms are ridiculously good.

You bring up a good point about the fanatics. I'm still not sure though...releasing the fanatics, then Waaagh!ing them forward (or back again) seems like it would be devastating. I should hopefully be able to absorb any stray fanatics with the gobbos, rather than the Orcs.

In a larger list, I'd probably see to it that the orc units got a little bigger first, then I'd go for some Doom Divers and Rock Lobbers-I'm not a fan of the Chukkas in 8th, save against monsters. The Spirit Totem would be quite a boon, but I'd need some Bigguns to do that (which I would, before all the war machines, if I could manage it).

Stone trolls, you say? Why? A negligible armour save and a 5+ against flaming magic seems hardly worth 20pts a model. River trolls, I could understand. Is there something about these guys I'm missing?

Im not saying make them stone im saying others would. As to why they would i dont know. Dont they have magic resistance 2 or something?

I didnt read the 79pt goblins load out till now. How fiendishly clever, true greenskin fashion.

Yeah, which is worthless (you get a 5+ Ward or a 4+ regen.), and 5+ armour.

Thanks for that, though. That little gobbo has done some amazing things (or at least amusing).