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need a good necron list to destroy csm. 2000 points
i usually run lots of warriors, some scarabs, monolith and mabye some destoyers.
i can win againsed other races but csm are really hard to beat.
i have no idea what the csm player is running but i think i heard somthing about noise marines, sorcerer, and a demon prince

i am open to all suggestions

Against csm is important, like against any assault army, stop their transports wery fast and to keep out of cc.
I would suggest list like this:

Nightbringer
Lord-resorb

PariahsX5

WarriorsX10
WarriorsX10
WarriorsX10

DestroyersX4
ScarabsX9

Monolith
Monolith

I'd drop one warrior squad and scarabs... Take more destroyers, and give lord nightmare shroud (since you field pharias)... Something like this:

HQ: 540
Nightbringer: 360
Lord (warscythe, rez orb, nightmare shroud): 180

ELITES: 144
5x Pharias: 180

TROOPS: 360
10x Warriors
10x Warriors

FAST ATTACK: 450
3x Destroyers: 150
3x Destroyers: 150
3x Destroyers: 150

HEAVY SUPPORT: 470
Lith: 235
Lith: 235

TOTAL: 2000

This is the way I'd play it at 2000pts, and it should do nice against chaos...

Chinchilla wrote:I'd drop one warrior squad and scarabs... Take more destroyers, and give lord nightmare shroud (since you field pharias)... Something like this:

HQ: 540
Nightbringer: 360
Lord (warscythe, rez orb, nightmare shroud): 180

ELITES: 144
5x Pharias: 180

TROOPS: 360
10x Warriors
10x Warriors

FAST ATTACK: 450
3x Destroyers: 150
3x Destroyers: 150
3x Destroyers: 150

HEAVY SUPPORT: 470
Lith: 235
Lith: 235

TOTAL: 2000
This is the way I'd play it at 2000pts, and it should do nice against chaos...

This is the list I would go!

Against Chaos, the nightbringer will kick some serious ass. His terminators won't be packing power fists, so not much is going to be able to wound it. It would kick the gak out of a lot of stuff.

Run the C'tan right behind a monolith to prevent it getting shot at, and then bitch slap whatever is getting near.

Chinchilla might be on to a winner with that list.

Why nightmare shroud? Only chaos units that are not fearless are csmarines and they wont run easily with Ld8 or 9. Only 20 warriors in 2000p? Maby not against csm cause they are primary targets will draw lts of fire if tere is so small phase out limit wich would be 8 and there should be more of them. Warscythe is waste, too. Chaos has lots of inv. but lords iniative sucks so he will not stand there long. If scarabs are taken out, veil of darkness is good option to keep out of cc. Then take one destroyer more. It goes like this:

Nightbringer
Lord-resorb-veil of darkness

WarriorsX14
WarriorsX15


DestroyersX3
DestroyersX3
DestroyersX3

Monolith
Monolith

It goes 2p over but I think that your opponent lets you to use this list.

take some of the heavier necron guys... forget what they're called...t5, assault 2 s5ap4. like a destroyer but on foot. Immotals?

Pharias give -2 to ld.... Chaos has ld 7 now... And pharias with lord are nice for counter-assault anything that comes near... Not to mention that opponent must make ld test to assault nightbringer, so -2 to ld helps a lot... So I'd rather go with that than 9 more warriors...
As for warriors, I always play 2 squads and never lose them... I say that if you play right, 2 squads are more than enough... If not, then not even 4 squads will save you... It's all in lith walling and porting to right position...


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Oh one more thing... I think it is bad idea to add warriors above 12 in a unit... You're not helping phase out, you're just making it worse... Whatever would kill 10 warriors, will kill 15 too... And more importantly (not against csm, but after others) it's much harder to stay within 6'' of the nightbringer for etheric tempest to work...

And check this out:
You lose both squads in my list, you have 10/30 crons alive (phase out is 7, so you're still good to go)...
You lose both squads od warriors in your list, you're at 10/39, and that's still same thing (even worst, since you're phase out is 9)... Sure you have teleport, but in this kind of list, it will not help you much, as you'd get into open outside of your lith fortress...
So if you want to add something after getting rid of pharias and nightmare shroud, add destroyers... But I'd still keep them

Deceiver

10x Warriors
10x Warriors

5x Destroyers
5x Destroyers
4x Destroyers

Monolith
Monolith
3x Tomb Spyder

They will have a hell of a time taking out your firepower as it is either Monoliths or 36" range, and it will be tough to phase you out as they will have to kill almost every Necron unit to do it. I don't recommend tying up 500+ points in HQ when the Deceiver is more than enough. The extra 240 lets you fill out more Destroyers, which will really shine against CSM. Don't underestimate Tomb Spyders either, they're really good now.

I wouldnt say that warrior squads would make phase out worse. You just keep them back, one squad with lord and one without. Need only keep nightbringer close warriors without lord and enemys cc squads keep long distance to them. Other squad can just veil around and keep out of cc. Monoliths are only thing. Warrior squads more than 12 cant come out from portal. Thats only thing only...

Warriors up to about 18 can come out of the portal, if you position it correctly.