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Made in us
Fresh-Faced New User




After reading Dash's Wyche list, I liked the way he was going. However for me I like to play a little more balanced. (my shooting tends to be a little more average than yours Dash)
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/354088.page

So using Dash's and the comment's in that thread here is what I came up with.

HQ
Duke - 150

Haemi w/ LG -215
Haemi w/ LG and CoM
Haemi w/ LG and SS

Elite
(x8) BloodBrides w/ x3 hydra, x8 Haywire -265
(x1) Syren w/ haywire, Agonizer, PGL,
Raider

(x3) Trueborn w/ x3 Blaster -146
Venom w/ x2 SC

(x3) Trueborn w/ x3 Blaster -146
Venom w/ x2 SC

Troops
(x9) Wyches w/ x1 Hydra, x9 Haywire -183
Raider w/ TGL

(x9) Wyches w/ x1 Hydra, x9 Haywire -178
Raider

(x5) Warriors w/ x1 Blaster -120
Raider

(x5) Warriors w/ x1 Blaster -120
Raider

Fast Attack
(x5) Scourges w/ x2 HB -130

Heavy Support

(x3) Ravager w/ FF -345

Toatal = 1998

This list has 23 DL weapons, 2 HB, and 27 HG attacks for anti tank

The Duke with Bloodbrides will get 5 agonizer attacks, 5 2+wound no armor if 5+ attacks from Duke, and 32 to 47 regular attacks

Wyche squads are to tar-pit. everything else is self explaining.

Any thoughts?

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/03/23 18:09:45


 
   
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Deadly Dark Eldar Warrior



Curitiba, Brazil

The haemons attach to whom?

Please link the Dash list, if you don't mind.

Crucible of Malediction, IMO, can only be used in conjunction with Torment Grenade Launchers because most psykers have Ld10, downgrading their confidence to Ld9 is paramount.

Isn't the Duke forced to join a Kabalite squad? I'm not sure because, if my memory serves me well, the duke can only attach to a non-kabalite unit if there is none on the list.
   
Made in gb
Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare





Why have you taken Hydra gauntlets when Razorflails do more damage? Why deliberately do less damage to your opponent with your list selection?

Duke must attach to Kabalite warriors or trueborn at start. One of your Haemmis missing a place to go.

23 DL weapons seems low at this point level. Thats what I'd take in an assault focused 1500 point list.

Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.

Yes my Colour is Black but not for the reasons stated mainly just because it's slimming... http://imperiusdominatus.blogspot.com 
   
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Fresh-Faced New User




Tavitin wrote:The haemons attach to whom?

Please link the Dash list, if you don't mind.

Crucible of Malediction, IMO, can only be used in conjunction with Torment Grenade Launchers because most psykers have Ld10, downgrading their confidence to Ld9 is paramount.

Isn't the Duke forced to join a Kabalite squad? I'm not sure because, if my memory serves me well, the duke can only attach to a non-kabalite unit if there is none on the list.


first haemi attaches to bloodbrides but will go to A warrior squad, while the Duke deploys with warriors then swiches to Bloodbrides.

The other Haemis go with the other wyche squads. the one with the crucible goes with TGL raider.

Linked the other post.


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FlingitNow wrote:Why have you taken Hydra gauntlets when Razorflails do more damage? Why deliberately do less damage to your opponent with your list selection?


Ok i'll ask because I haven't done the math, and I don't want to. What is the difference adding 0-5 extra attacks vs reroll hit and wound on 2-3 model specific attacks. (Wyches)

Does it make a difference with the bloodbrides +0-15 extra attacks vs 3-4 reroll hit and wound on 3 specific models attacks.?

Duke must attach to Kabalite warriors or trueborn at start. One of your Haemmis missing a place to go.


See above.

23 DL weapons seems low at this point level. That's what I'd take in an assault focused 1500 point list.


I could get more if I went with a pure shooty list, but I don't see how to get more than 2 more (swapping out Venoms for Raiders) while keeping the Assault elements of this list. Suggestions?

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/03/23 18:35:06


 
   
Made in gb
Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare






Ok i'll ask because I haven't done the math, and I don't want to. What is the difference adding 0-5 extra attacks vs reroll hit and wound on 2-3 model specific attacks. (Wyches)

Does it make a difference with the bloodbrides +0-15 extra attacks vs 3-4 reroll hit and wound on 3 specific models attacks.?


Even on the wyches the razorflails do statistically better than the Hydra gauntlets on 5 out of 6 combat drug results. On Bloodbrides the difference just becomes bigger.

Not convionced the Haemmie and Duke merry go round will help you in any way just deny you mobility on that crucial first turn...

I could get more if I went with a pure shooty list, but I don't see how to get more than 2 more (swapping out Venoms for Raiders) while keeping the Assault elements of this list. Suggestions?


More trueborn (you can take 4 in each squad with blasters). Go with blasters in scourges perhaps (not a huge fan of them though). Take more potent CC Troops choices (for instance Wracks) so you can fill up your elite slots with Dark light weapons.

Or accept that at this point level you need to go shooty to have a chance with DE due to lack of useful melta.

Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.

Yes my Colour is Black but not for the reasons stated mainly just because it's slimming... http://imperiusdominatus.blogspot.com 
   
 
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