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2015/06/29 16:16:51
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July -- Sigmar and Chaos pics in 1st post
Mr Morden wrote: What's the difference between Disorder and Chaos?
I would have thought:
Order: Lizardmen (?), Dwarves (?), Simgmarites (?)
Chaos: self explanatory + Skaven
Undead: Nagash and friends
Destruction: Orcs, Goblins, Ogres
Obviously there may well be some crossover
instead of destruction they call it disorder. Also was told that skaven fall under disorder not chaos.
err ok - thats a bit silly!
yeah Forgot the Elves - depends which version they are - or their own faction.
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Mr Morden wrote: What's the difference between Disorder and Chaos?
I would have thought:
Order: Lizardmen (?), Dwarves (?), Simgmarites (?)
Chaos: self explanatory + Skaven
Undead: Nagash and friends
Destruction: Orcs, Goblins, Ogres
Obviously there may well be some crossover
instead of destruction they call it disorder. Also was told that skaven fall under disorder not chaos.
err ok - thats a bit silly!
yeah Forgot the Elves - depends which version they are - or their own faction.
They had to set it up this way so it looks like the humans are surrounded on all sides by invading aliens. Unified fluff FTW!!
Sad to see the Great Maw go away for my Ogres though. Ogres worshipping Gork and Mork now? ick,
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2015/06/29 16:37:34
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July -- Sigmar and Chaos pics in 1st post
Id love to see "nature" as a faction. Wood elves, beast men (perhaps a bit more satyr like), lots of monsters, ogres?.
(speaking of what they become, not how they used to be.)
Or is it to close to hordes/warmachine?
ShaneTB wrote: GW stores will be demoing the game on Saturday.
Love to know how they're planning on doing this across the pond. Aren't all the shops closed on that particular day?
There might be some open but it's a national holiday and I doubt many people spend the biggest BBQ of the year sitting in a game store....at least I never have.
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2015/06/29 16:48:50
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July -- Sigmar and Chaos pics in 1st post
So I don't know if anyone else has heard the same, but the guy at my FLGS told me that he'd had an email from GW saying that on the 4th July, when all the Age of Sigmar stuff goes up for pre-order, the rules and the army books will all go up for download, free of charge (and as a result the box set doesn't contain a rulebook).
An interesting move from GW, and I do question it from a business point of view, but if it's a quality ruleset it may pay off in the long term. I'm also very glad about it as I can look through the rules without committing to buy anything. If I don't like it, I can stick with 8th and no harm done. If I do, then I can maybe looking into buying or converting some Age of Sigmar stuff.
I will be in store on both the 4th and the 11th. But due to work I will only have a couple of hours tops each day...
I will buy one starter and try it out. If I like it, I am bound to find additions on ebay when half the world is selling halves or even whole starters!
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2015/06/29 16:59:41
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July -- Sigmar and Chaos pics in 1st post
So, just got off the phone with my GW rep. They are really going big on this one. I've been offered quite a few nice incentives to support the launch, and will be receiving free copies of the box, demo armies, credit on old product, posters, prizes, etc. Thursday I'll receive a full copy of the rules with i will take home and eat with ketchup and spend a day digesting. Nice incentives across the board for retailers that take a bunch of them, support the launch, (and are currently paying their bills, of course.)
Info I was told:
-It's not 9th edition WFB, its a totally different game. There is no 9th edition coming. There is no huge rule book coming. Age of Sigmar is the main product.
-Most of the leaks on the internet are wrong. I'll be able to confirm this Thursday. In particular the bit about different formations is incorrect.
-The 96 page book is a hobby book, painting, history, how to play examples etc. The 4 pages of rules is indeed the rules. Laminated.
-Each unit in the game has a War Scroll that has the rules specific to that unit. So rules for each artillery piece will be on that unit's scroll, each monster will have a scroll, etc.
-The 4 pages of rules and all War Scrolls will be free and online July 4th at midnight. This will be a living document.
lets say that again, since some of the words like "free" may seem surprising to some folks
-The 4 pages of rules and all War Scrolls will be free and online July 4th at midnight. This will be a living document[u]
-Cost is 125.00 in the US
-There may be additional books in the near future, hobbyist/collectors items. Not at all needed for the game, and may not even have the rules in the them. Age of Sigmar: The Big Book of pictures and how to paint....etc. There is no HC big rulebook like we had in WFB, no 3 rule books in a slipcover like in 40k. Just the Age of Sigmar box. And the rules for that box are online and free along with rules for all the old models in your army.
-Supposedly doesn't matter how things are based.
-Scales well from skirmish to large battles. Leave your models ranked and on bases if you like.
Looking forward to reading it all on Thursday.
....and lo!.....The Age of Sigmar came to an end when Saint Veetock and his hamster legions smote the false Sigmar and destroyed the bubbleverse and lead the true believers back to the Old World.
2015/06/29 17:04:32
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July -- Sigmar and Chaos pics in 1st post
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2015/06/29 17:07:06
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July -- Sigmar and Chaos pics in 1st post
Wow, huge step forward. I can only hope that this is resoundingly successful and 40k fallows suit. A free, living document on a less bloated 40k is exactly what is needed at this point. Really excited for this now.
While these models in this particular box aren't aren't my cup of tea. I sincerely hope the game is fun and the rest of the line appeals to me. If these "free" rumours are correct and assuming GW don't flub the rest of this release, this is a great opportunity for us to show the company that this is indeed the way to go forward, not just with AoS but 40k, too (I mean more fluid, community inclusive products, not a simplified reboot of what works - 40k works imo, WFB didn't.).
Thought for the day
2015/06/29 17:12:20
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July -- Sigmar and Chaos pics in 1st post
Did they happen to say what the war scrolls actuly are?
Cards or a full page sorta thing ?
Sounds like they are at least looking to try some new stuff.
But interest here has been whole negative so I don't think I will be getting anything unless the rules are great.
2015/06/29 17:19:28
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July -- Sigmar and Chaos pics in 1st post
mikhaila wrote: So, just got off the phone with my GW rep. They are really going big on this one.
Thanks for passing on the info. So do those incentives mean you too will be going really big on this one as well despite the existing event that day? I'm going to guess yes (why say no to free stuff as long as you have the staff?) but figured I'd ask.
mikhaila wrote: So, just got off the phone with my GW rep. They are really going big on this one.
Spoiler:
I've been offered quite a few nice incentives to support the launch, and will be receiving free copies of the box, demo armies, credit on old product, posters, prizes, etc. Thursday I'll receive a full copy of the rules with i will take home and eat with ketchup and spend a day digesting. Nice incentives across the board for retailers that take a bunch of them, support the launch, (and are currently paying their bills, of course.)
Info I was told:
-It's not 9th edition WFB, its a totally different game. There is no 9th edition coming. There is no huge rule book coming. Age of Sigmar is the main product.
-Most of the leaks on the internet are wrong. I'll be able to confirm this Thursday. In particular the bit about different formations is incorrect.
-The 96 page book is a hobby book, painting, history, how to play examples etc. The 4 pages of rules is indeed the rules. Laminated.
-Each unit in the game has a War Scroll that has the rules specific to that unit. So rules for each artillery piece will be on that unit's scroll, each monster will have a scroll, etc.
-The 4 pages of rules and all War Scrolls will be free and online July 4th at midnight. This will be a living document.
lets say that again, since some of the words like "free" may seem surprising to some folks
-The 4 pages of rules and all War Scrolls will be free and online July 4th at midnight. This will be a living document[u]
-Cost is 125.00 in the US
-There may be additional books in the near future, hobbyist/collectors items. Not at all needed for the game, and may not even have the rules in the them. Age of Sigmar: The Big Book of pictures and how to paint....etc. There is no HC big rulebook like we had in WFB, no 3 rule books in a slipcover like in 40k. Just the Age of Sigmar box. And the rules for that box are online and free along with rules for all the old models in your army.
-Supposedly doesn't matter how things are based.
-Scales well from skirmish to large battles. Leave your models ranked and on bases if you like.
Looking forward to reading it all on Thursday.
Thank you for all the info mikhaila.
2015/06/29 17:29:23
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July -- Sigmar and Chaos pics in 1st post
Flashman wrote: Hmm... so you don't actually need the starter box to play then?
I'm very intrigued how they will get the rules onto 4 pages. Even straight forward games like X-Wing have longer rule books than that.
Sounds like the rulebook will be extremely bare bones: how to move, how to fight, possibly how to do morale. Things like Special Rules (e.g., unbreakable, regeneration, flaming attacks, etc.) will probably be on the unit cards themselves.
Guess we'll see. It's nice I'll be able to look at the rules without having to buy the box set though.
2015/06/29 17:30:36
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July -- Sigmar and Chaos pics in 1st post
Im really hoping we get nice cards like Warmachine gives there players. The paper rules that came with all the Endtimes models was horrible.. I dont want to lug those around...
2015/06/29 17:34:23
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July -- Sigmar and Chaos pics in 1st post
Thought for the day 
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