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As soon as I heard about the base change, I thought about making some in plastic. I had already started designing the mold. I guess I need to get that project moving.

If I didn't have beveled edges on outside, is that going to be an issue (meaning having a straight up an down edge where it was beveled before)?

Tac Squad:
"This multi-part plastic kit contains 165 components with which to make a 10-man Blood Angels Tactical Squad. Also includes 10 x 32mm round bases."

DC:
"This 94-piece kit contains five multi-part plastic Blood Angels Death Company miniatures. It includes 5 backpacks, 5 jump packs, 20 shoulder pads and 8 heads. Also included are a range of bolters, bolt pistols and chainswords, a host of other weapon options and 5 x 32mm round bases."

SG:
"This 95-piece kit makes 5 multi-part plastic Blood Angels Sanguinary Guard. It includes 15 different heads (five with helmets, five bare heads and five Death Masks), 15 elaborate shoulder pads, 5 Glaives Encarmine, 6 Angelus boltguns, an inferno pistol, a plasma pistol, five variations of legs and five different torsos. Also included are a banner with sculpted detailing and a range of pouches and Blood Angels accessories that allow you to further customise your unit. Models supplied with 5 x 32mm round bases."

Sang Priest:
"This 11-piece plastic kit makes a Blood Angels Sanguinary Priest armed with a double-edged chainsword. He holds aloft a blood chalice and is equipped with a narthecium, the instrument of all Space Marine Apothecaries. It also includes a scenic 32mm round base."

Yeah doesn't look good. As I said previously, I won't be changing my 25mm bases to 32.

 Rippy wrote:
Yeah doesn't look good. As I said previously, I won't be changing my 25mm bases to 32.

It is unlikely that they will make you.

In the army shots in the ibook preview they mix old and new bases. The command squad, made from the new bits, is on 25mm bases


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So are the Devastators

And the old Assault Marines have not been re-based

Warhams-77 wrote:
In the army shots in the ibook preview they mix old and new bases. The command squad, made from the new bits, is on 25mm bases


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So are the Devastators

And the old Assault Marines have not been re-based

My OCD has a serious problem with this. Where is the order and consistency?!!!?!?!

 Fango wrote:
Where is the order and consistency?!!!?!?!

You must be new here...

 Kirasu wrote:
There is absolutely no evidence that gw intends any other armies or models to use 32 mm bases.. I'm really surprised at the level of reaction to a single ba kit using new bases which may simply be for aesthetic reasons!

You were saying?

50x 25mm to 32mm conversion rings from Underground Lasers, 10% off now for $8.10:

 Dark Severance wrote:
50x 25mm to 32mm conversion rings from Underground Lasers, 10% off now for $8.10:

Spoiler:

I'm a big fan of Underground Lasers. Backed his first Kickstarter and then ordered some kits when his webstore went online afterward.

I've been adamant about refusing to rebase my marines, because of the time and money invested in doing so, but at $.16 a ring I'll probably buy a 100 just in case it ever becomes an issue, or if I happen to grow to like the aesthetic of the larger base.

 adamsouza wrote:
I'm a big fan of Underground Lasers. Backed his first Kickstarter and then ordered some kits when his webstore went online afterward.

Yeah unfortunately I wasn't able to back the first Kickstarter, but I did back his 2nd one and now currently his 3rd one he is doing.

You know, I wonder if I can fit my Space Hulk Terminators on 32mm bases instead of 40's?

I know they would hang over because of the strip of plastic that they stand on, but the problem is that if I put them on 40mm bases for general gaming (still want to make a Blood Angels Terminator force) they don't work well for playing Space Hulk with, as 40mm's overhang the squares, making it impossible to accurately fit terminators in adjoining grid spaces. And the other unpainted terminators I want to add to supplement the Blood Angels from Space Hulk are actually the old 2nd edition plastics that originally went on 25mm bases, so they obviously will fit on the 32's.

So they might actually have a use for me. Though I have absolutely no intention of re-basing a single one of my models from 25mm to 32.

Did anyone notice that in the BA/Nid box there's also a 75 mm oval base for the Broodlord and a 105 mm oval base for the Carnifex?

.. 1 Dreadnaught Base, 6 x 40mm Round Bases, 5 x 32mm Round Bases, 9 x 25mm Round Bases, 3 x 50mm Round Bases, 1 x 105mm Oval Base and 1 x 75mm Oval Base.

Seems to me that the regular (weedy) troops are on 25 mm, and anything that's considered elite/semi-elite like Marines are on 32 mm. It does seem a bit overly complicated, now that you get a whole range of 25/32/40/50/60/75/105 mm bases, but then again, it's good for some units. They're still missing 18 mm bases for the Grotz, though

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
There is absolutely no evidence that gw intends any other armies or models to use 32 mm bases.. I'm really surprised at the level of reaction to a single ba kit using new bases which may simply be for aesthetic reasons!

Spoiler:

 pretre wrote:
Tac Squad:
"This multi-part plastic kit contains 165 components with which to make a 10-man Blood Angels Tactical Squad. Also includes 10 x 32mm round bases."

DC:
"This 94-piece kit contains five multi-part plastic Blood Angels Death Company miniatures. It includes 5 backpacks, 5 jump packs, 20 shoulder pads and 8 heads. Also included are a range of bolters, bolt pistols and chainswords, a host of other weapon options and 5 x 32mm round bases."

SG:
"This 95-piece kit makes 5 multi-part plastic Blood Angels Sanguinary Guard. It includes 15 different heads (five with helmets, five bare heads and five Death Masks), 15 elaborate shoulder pads, 5 Glaives Encarmine, 6 Angelus boltguns, an inferno pistol, a plasma pistol, five variations of legs and five different torsos. Also included are a banner with sculpted detailing and a range of pouches and Blood Angels accessories that allow you to further customise your unit. Models supplied with 5 x 32mm round bases."

Sang Priest:
"This 11-piece plastic kit makes a Blood Angels Sanguinary Priest armed with a double-edged chainsword. He holds aloft a blood chalice and is equipped with a narthecium, the instrument of all Space Marine Apothecaries. It also includes a scenic 32mm round base."

You were saying?

What? Those are all BA models, and all Marines at that. So GW may fully intend for all Marine armies to start using 32mm bases but that doesn't mean everyone is getting them.

He's right, there's still no evidence that any other armies are going to get that treatment. When GW starts giving models from other armies 32mm bases and replacing the 25mm they originally came with then you'll have a point.

So I was trying to figure out for myself what I could possibly use 32mm bases on and I have finally figured it out.

I have most all of my armies based on 25mm rounds (40k) and the bigger models (Terminators etc.) on 40mm. And really could not see where an intermediary size would be handy until I considered my orks.

Now as you may have it my Kans are on 40's because thats what they came with (they look better on 60's IMHO) also my MANz are on 40's, which is cool because they are sort of like an orky version of Terminators. All the boyz are on 25's but I always like the idea of having the Nobz on something to separate them from he boyz so I will be putting my Nobz on the new 32mm bases I think it will set them apart from the boyz, show that they are special, but not as special as MANz or a Warboss (generic ones on 40mm). It would represent the stage of growth from a boy to a nob to a boss.

Also since I have far fewer Nobz than I do boys, marines, Necrons, Nids, Dark and regular Eldar I think it will be an easier undertaking and be thematically correct.

xraytango wrote:
So I was trying to figure out for myself what I could possibly use 32mm bases on and I have finally figured it out.

I have most all of my armies based on 25mm rounds (40k) and the bigger models (Terminators etc.) on 40mm. And really could not see where an intermediary size would be handy until I considered my orks.

Now as you may have it my Kans are on 40's because thats what they came with (they look better on 60's IMHO) also my MANz are on 40's, which is cool because they are sort of like an orky version of Terminators. All the boyz are on 25's but I always like the idea of having the Nobz on something to separate them from he boyz so I will be putting my Nobz on the new 32mm bases I think it will set them apart from the boyz, show that they are special, but not as special as MANz or a Warboss (generic ones on 40mm). It would represent the stage of growth from a boy to a nob to a boss.

Also since I have far fewer Nobz than I do boys, marines, Necrons, Nids, Dark and regular Eldar I think it will be an easier undertaking and be thematically correct.

Nobz, Stormboyz, and Lootas will all benefit from the new bases. Boyz can stay on 25mm.

Why don't you guys just grab some 35mm bases and use those. It's not like the extra 3mm will make any real difference in your game.

Personally, I was thinking of simply putting a flat disc of thin plastic under the existing base.

I would hope that GW would finally officially define base size for each model, though. 'Use what came with it' is annoyingly arbitrary.

I do not like this change. I'm not rebasing my old models and I don't want new models that look stupid next to my old models. Hey, GW gave me yet another reason to not buy their models! They're really doing well at this.

I agree with the annoyance of models overhanging bases, but having to rebase old models or having a mismatched army is an even worse prospect to me.

The best thing would have been if GW just stopped with the scale creep and just made models that fitted on their bases to begin with. It's even worse in WHFB where models are too big to rank up on their bases and even if they do, when you have to move them in to combat with an enemy unit they all collide.

 Sidstyler wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
There is absolutely no evidence that gw intends any other armies or models to use 32 mm bases.. I'm really surprised at the level of reaction to a single ba kit using new bases which may simply be for aesthetic reasons!

Spoiler:

 pretre wrote:
Tac Squad:
"This multi-part plastic kit contains 165 components with which to make a 10-man Blood Angels Tactical Squad. Also includes 10 x 32mm round bases."

DC:
"This 94-piece kit contains five multi-part plastic Blood Angels Death Company miniatures. It includes 5 backpacks, 5 jump packs, 20 shoulder pads and 8 heads. Also included are a range of bolters, bolt pistols and chainswords, a host of other weapon options and 5 x 32mm round bases."

SG:
"This 95-piece kit makes 5 multi-part plastic Blood Angels Sanguinary Guard. It includes 15 different heads (five with helmets, five bare heads and five Death Masks), 15 elaborate shoulder pads, 5 Glaives Encarmine, 6 Angelus boltguns, an inferno pistol, a plasma pistol, five variations of legs and five different torsos. Also included are a banner with sculpted detailing and a range of pouches and Blood Angels accessories that allow you to further customise your unit. Models supplied with 5 x 32mm round bases."

Sang Priest:
"This 11-piece plastic kit makes a Blood Angels Sanguinary Priest armed with a double-edged chainsword. He holds aloft a blood chalice and is equipped with a narthecium, the instrument of all Space Marine Apothecaries. It also includes a scenic 32mm round base."

You were saying?

What? Those are all BA models, and all Marines at that. So GW may fully intend for all Marine armies to start using 32mm bases but that doesn't mean everyone is getting them.

He's right, there's still no evidence that any other armies are going to get that treatment. When GW starts giving models from other armies 32mm bases and replacing the 25mm they originally came with then you'll have a point.

You're retconning. "Other armies or models" he said.

Here we have other models being released with the new bases.

I think We can expect Chaos Space Marines and possibly Sisters of Battle to follow suit, other similarly sized power armour models.

32mm bases are out of stock on the GW's site. Were they actually available at some point?

I think from the space marine range the techmarines will be the models to benefit most from this change. The 25mm bases looked too small, and the 40mm bases really were a little too large.

Yeah I do see some point other than madness, guard etc fit fine on 25mm but space marines, they sometimes depending on pose look bit big for em.

Plus more room to create a decent base.

Downside too, ie tournament rules, some people mihjt have real trouble updating, especially the fancy scenic or comishion designs.

Plus will you need updated foam cases?
Could be rather spendy.


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 warboss wrote:

 Desubot wrote:
Meh wont be switching bases any time soon. BUT in good news the bigger base size will make for some nice character basing.

I really wish they started out with these way back when for jump packs (frickin insane trying to keep em up right or in tight formation)

Yeah, the same is true of orks as well with their gorilla arms out at the side like they're airing out their armpits in the breeze mandatory choppa boy poses.

If jump packs always fall over I found a penny, washer, cent coin or such small metal weight is a magic fix. Not 100% but keeps them up right even with more extreme posing and angles. Just supglued under them, invisible on tabletop.

Hope it helps.

wonder what happens to the models with "scenic" 25mm bases on their sprue

Chaos Aspiring Champion, Space Marine Librarian/Captain/Chaplain

xraytango wrote:So I was trying to figure out for myself what I could possibly use 32mm bases on and I have finally figured it out.

I have most all of my armies based on 25mm rounds (40k) and the bigger models (Terminators etc.) on 40mm. And really could not see where an intermediary size would be handy until I considered my orks.

Now as you may have it my Kans are on 40's because thats what they came with (they look better on 60's IMHO) also my MANz are on 40's, which is cool because they are sort of like an orky version of Terminators. All the boyz are on 25's but I always like the idea of having the Nobz on something to separate them from he boyz so I will be putting my Nobz on the new 32mm bases I think it will set them apart from the boyz, show that they are special, but not as special as MANz or a Warboss (generic ones on 40mm). It would represent the stage of growth from a boy to a nob to a boss.

Also since I have far fewer Nobz than I do boys, marines, Necrons, Nids, Dark and regular Eldar I think it will be an easier undertaking and be thematically correct.

Breotan wrote:Why don't you guys just grab some 35mm bases and use those. It's not like the extra 3mm will make any real difference in your game.

X-Ray Tango, Are all those units you mentioned now going to be sold with 32mm? If not…

Bretotan and Xray,
...You can certainly do that, but it wouldn't be "GW legal". The rule from GW (and followed by many indie tourneys) is that the model goes on the base it currently is sold with or the one it was originally sold with.

 Crimson wrote:
32mm bases are out of stock on the GW's site. Were they actually available at some point?

Yes. They became available for pre-order at the same time as Deathstorm boxed set. I ordered few packs and intend to use them for Genestealers (Space Hulk and Deathstorm), Orks, Necrons, Daemon Heralds and other random models.

32mm bases are a nice addition to the range (IMO), but I fail to see the need for two new oval base sizes. Unless the Carnifex oval base is suitable size for Ork Mek Gunz.

 Breotan wrote:
Why don't you guys just grab some 35mm bases and use those. It's not like the extra 3mm will make any real difference in your game.

Shhh don't say that. I mentioned it once along time ago and the internt raged big time that it's such a big issue.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
There is absolutely no evidence that gw intends any other armies or models to use 32 mm bases.. I'm really surprised at the level of reaction to a single ba kit using new bases which may simply be for aesthetic reasons!

You were saying?

Yeah? and I stand by what I said. When that was written there was no evidence, now there is that GW intends Blood Angels to use 32mm bases. I'll even assume they mean for Space Marines to use them as well (functionally chaos space marines are the same so we can even go with them as well). That's still a far cry from people talking about rebasing units like termagants, imperial guard or anything that isn't a space marine.

Yeah, no one will be required to rebase anything so you can just calm down right about now.

Alternatively, keep raving when everything is fine, if you can´t get over yourself with your army having "traditional" sized bases. That really is ones own problem.

 RunicFIN wrote:
Yeah, no one will be required to rebase anything so you can just calm down right about now.

Alternatively, keep raving when everything is fine, if you can´t get over yourself with your army having "traditional" sized bases. That really is ones own problem.

I'm not so much bothered by having to rebase models... I'm not going to... I also don't really care that my army is on older bases.

The annoying thing will be if I ever buy new models, they'll be inconsistent with the old models for no good reason. It's a small annoyance... but with GW it's the small annoyances that pile up in to a giant mound of poo.