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Joyboozer wrote:
Is there any actual balance to the content of these games? I know the thousand sons get their arses handed to them on Prospero, but does that mean the loser who has to play as the thousand sobs has no chance of winning? The odds seem to be stacked against them given the stats and abilitys of the imperial troops. Is Ahriman going to be that powerful to counter?

It's not a starter, it's a board game, 30K/40K stats won't mean anything for that.

It may come down to the psychic powers turn out.

sprue pics

Smegging hell there's a lot of awesome stuff there! The Custodes and Sisters sprues look great!

This one might have to find its way under a Christmas tree...

 Azreal13 wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
Is there any actual balance to the content of these games? I know the thousand sons get their arses handed to them on Prospero, but does that mean the loser who has to play as the thousand sobs has no chance of winning? The odds seem to be stacked against them given the stats and abilitys of the imperial troops. Is Ahriman going to be that powerful to counter?

It's not a starter, it's a board game, 30K/40K stats won't mean anything for that.

So they are actually balanced rule sets?

Joyboozer wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
Is there any actual balance to the content of these games? I know the thousand sons get their arses handed to them on Prospero, but does that mean the loser who has to play as the thousand sobs has no chance of winning? The odds seem to be stacked against them given the stats and abilitys of the imperial troops. Is Ahriman going to be that powerful to counter?

It's not a starter, it's a board game, 30K/40K stats won't mean anything for that.

So they are actually balanced rule sets?

Balanced rules but unbalanced scenarios. Some scenarios may be stacked against one side. More of a challenge and extra bragging rights if you win.

Woh... two part packs. no volkite unfortunately

That Autocannon for the Tartaros Terminators....giggity.

NivlacSupreme wrote:
Woh... two part packs. no volkite unfortunately

Just the one on the Tartaros sprue.

Just the HB for the power armor guy’s heavy? Looks like only plasma and melta for the specials.

 Nevelon wrote:
Just the HB for the power armor guy’s heavy? Looks like only plasma and melta for the specials.

Seems so...

Those Custodes Weapons look amazing.

I... I need to confirm their rules, and if they get a formation. I want to field them with my Deathwatch, because reasons.

Some other things I noticed:

Looks like the SW has both arms attached at the shoulder, so should be easy to modify with normal marine bits. So while a mono-pose HQ, it should be easy to take multiples and kitbash off of them. Looks like the leg/torso might also be fully compatible. Actually, the more I look at the sprue, he looks like a fully multipart model, just with only one option. There are some alignment squares that might need to be shaved off before getting to work swapping parts on him, but that’s about it.

Ahriman looks significantly harder to mod.

On the terminators, it looks like there might be the front of a HF on there. And is that some sort of plasma thing next to the volkite?

SoS look to be bolters/flamer/swords.

Everything looks awesome.

Damn. I was really hoping for a missile launcher.

I imagine a lot of Death Guard players will be irked by the lack of flamer.

 Nevelon wrote:
Some other things I noticed:

Looks like the SW has both arms attached at the shoulder, so should be easy to modify with normal marine bits. So while a mono-pose HQ, it should be easy to take multiples and kitbash off of them. Looks like the leg/torso might also be fully compatible. Actually, the more I look at the sprue, he looks like a fully multipart model, just with only one option. There are some alignment squares that might need to be shaved off before getting to work swapping parts on him, but that’s about it.

Ahriman looks significantly harder to mod.

On the terminators, it looks like there might be the front of a HF on there. And is that some sort of plasma thing next to the volkite?

SoS look to be bolters/flamer/swords.

Everything looks awesome.

The Tartaros have a heavy flamer yeah and a plasma blaster.

Damn, those are delicious. Gunswords for the Custodes, awesome, and the shoulderpads are their own part so I can bitz order them to make converting Sigmarines from the AoS starter dead easy(assuming you'd ever need more than five Custodes). The Sisters look amazing, I'll have to grab an extra set.

Oddly though what's really impressing me is the sprue design, whoever they have working the CAD software to split the 3d sculpts for production is getting extremely good, I always wondered how they'd work the classic looking MKII/III backpack in plastic.

So it looks like at long last SM are getting access to the mighty reaper autocannon. Maybe they'll finally be able to compete with their traitorous brethren on an even footing!

Ooh the MKIII legs are split into 2 parts. That should hopefully make it easier to have a variety of poses.

There's also more than one chainsword this time! Hopefully this box can be used to make Despoilers with a small amount of conversion work...

Are the chainswords holstered? That would be pretty handy for modeling bolter + bp + ccw loadouts.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Ooh the MKIII legs are split into 2 parts. That should hopefully make it easier to have a variety of poses.

There's also more than one chainsword this time! Hopefully this box can be used to make Despoilers with a small amount of conversion work...

Going by the first pic, that's 11 chainswords per sprue! 1 with hand attached, but another 10 for sticking on backpacks, and easily converted into any closed hand! As someone often short of Chainswords, this is very welcome!

The SoS pics actually put me of a little. The poses seem quite rigid

S.Y.

They chainswords do look pretty easy to make ready for hand use.

If I could buy it for £95 I would probably get it, even if you took the pre-brexit exchange rate. But $265AUD, eh, that really takes the gloss off it.

Yeah looks like the MKIII loose the 2nd heavy weapon, but gain a whole load of chainswords and holstered bolt pistols. FW really need to get on with releasing jump packs and breacher shields separately after this box comes out. The reaper cannon, Volkite and plasma blastgun for the Terminators are a big surprise. I wonder how compatible the existing FW add ons will be with these kits? The MKIII shouldn't be a problem but the Tartaros sets might need some modifying. Although after double checking the plastic sprue against the FW sets there's not much that they don't cover.

Looks like the SW has a separate shoulder pad. That should make it a lot easier to add him to the Death watch(even if it is the wrong side).

Ten heads for five SoS? Guess that's a new trend. Maybe they can find some use on the plastic SoB.

What is the rumored price?

The confirmed RRP is £95.

Or $6 at this rate.

Relapse wrote:
What is the rumored price?

The first picture on the first post of this thread has the RRP in various currencies.

 Azreal13 wrote:
The confirmed RRP is £95.

Should be able to pick it up for about £76 online then, maybe cheaper on eBay. Will be getting at least 2.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

Relapse wrote:
What is the rumored price?

The first picture on the first post of this thread has the RRP in various currencies.

Truly you are all seeing and I am blind as a bat! Many thanks.