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Hi here's my go at this guy, try nmm gold yes or no..??

The blending on the gold is nice.

It looks both fantastic and nipply. Well done, sir!

Heffling wrote:It looks both fantastic and nipply. Well done, sir!

HA ha yes was a little cold time of painting, thanks man!

*pops on fake glasses and moustache* Ahem good sir, you may not know me? I do not stalk you and your awesome painting around the dakka forums at all! but I must say that this is a very nice miniature! lovely nmm and that eagle is beautiful, I say old chap you must have been taught by that fellow Nerdfest09 I hear so much about? such a lovely gentleman too! ;-)

This is very well painted.

However, there's something about the gold that just doesn't scream "metal" to me. It's hard for me to put my finger on, but I kinda want to say that there's not enough contrast. Maybe it's just the picture/lighting, though.

nerdfest09 wrote:*pops on fake glasses and moustache* Ahem good sir, you may not know me? I do not stalk you and your awesome painting around the dakka forums at all! but I must say that this is a very nice miniature! lovely nmm and that eagle is beautiful, I say old chap you must have been taught by that fellow Nerdfest09 I hear so much about? such a lovely gentleman too! ;-)

Theses words you speak ar true he taught me so much and he his still a jedi master of painting i have so much to learn from him....

bushido wrote:This is very well painted.

However, there's something about the gold that just doesn't scream "metal" to me.

Maybe that's the fact that it's painted in the style of non-metallic metal? As specified in the thread title?

Needs more contrast. The trick with NMM (and it's a trick I'm just about getting my head round) is to go all the way to black, and all the way to white. I also think you need to contra-shade the shoulder guards (ie have them black with the sharp highlight at the top and light at the bottom).

Darkvoidof40k wrote:
Maybe that's the fact that it's painted in the style of non-metallic metal? As specified in the thread title?

I know what NMM is. The point of it, however, is to get something that looks like it's metal and where you can control exactly how the highlights and shadows fall. Otherwise, it would just be NM.

winterdyne wrote:Needs more contrast. The trick with NMM (and it's a trick I'm just about getting my head round) is to go all the way to black, and all the way to white. I also think you need to contra-shade the shoulder guards (ie have them black with the sharp highlight at the top and light at the bottom).

Black is way to dark ,all the tutorials i have read and videos i have watched never every mentioned Black. They all say start with a dark rich brown but never black .. ive looked on loads of sites. Here, cool mini or not, chest of colour but none have ever mentioned using the colour you suggest..? if you have pictures of how you use black it woiuld be great to see..!!!

Hmmm learn you think from him? I think not hmmm him learn from you! old works are his, ancient beyond belief! new ones on horizon me think, for your enjoyment yes!

I think the armor looks gold. The beak on the eagle is a good comparison in the model. That looks yellow.

No, you don't base black, you base with a dark midtone. You *shade* to black. Here's a quick photoshop job to show the colour progression, left-to-right, top-to-bottom order:


You'll notice it's basically a variation of a gem technique.

winterdyne wrote:No, you don't base black, you base with a dark midtone. You *shade* to black. Here's a quick photoshop job to show the colour progression, left-to-right, top-to-bottom order:


You'll notice it's basically a variation of a gem technique.

cheers dude but would you say thats just dark brown not black anyway thanks for the pic

Nope. At the deepest extreme it should be near-as-dammit black. In either case you use black paint and blend it towards the extreme. Edit: Note that the contra-highlight does not go to white - just slightly off it. That way you can use white on an underlying 'up' edge and it'll still pop the edge to reinforce the shape of the model.

Going down to black may not be absolutely necessary. What's more important, in my opinion, is that there are places where the lightest and darkest colors are right next to each other. To sell the illusion that there is some reflection going on and that the metal is catching the light.

You got very close to this on his right gauntlet (the hand holding the hammer).

bushido wrote:Going down to black may not be absolutely necessary. What's more important, in my opinion, is that there are places where the lightest and darkest colors are right next to each other. To sell the illusion that there is some reflection going on and that the metal is catching the light.

You got very close to this on his right gauntlet (the hand holding the hammer).

yes i'm happy with it , this is only my second go at nmm gold so i know i need practice plus the lighting really doesn't show it up to well. thanks for your thoughts and comment though

Good luck. NMM takes a little more thought than just straight-up highlighting, but you've definitely got the blending skill to do it really well.

bullyboy76: That model looks awesome! Don't let the detractors bother you, somebody always has to be hatin' on the internet :S

In general, the higher the contrast across the surface, the more polished (in a literal sense) it looks. If you're after a brushed-metal effect, then lower the contrast.

Joyous_Oblivion wrote:bullyboy76: That model looks awesome! Don't let the detractors bother you, somebody always has to be hatin' on the internet :S

Thanks man ..!

I'm very happy to see that the American Bald Eagle has not gone extinct in the year 40,000.

Nice paint job too.

a1steaks wrote:I'm very happy to see that the American Bald Eagle has not gone extinct in the year 40,000.

Nice paint job too.

ha ha ye really like the look so i thought i'd try it .

Lovely work!