The Chevaliers de Fio.Dred with some fluff and need some input on a standard bearer please. 9/7/11

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**Ssgt Carl**

Spoiler:

This Blog is now my work on the Chevaliers de Fio

**Dark_Gear**

Also, glue guns get really stringy if your dog secretly unplugs it while you are still working with it.

Which in dog language translates to: "Drop the glue gun, I can't hold it in anymore".

While I have no idea what the actual concept of armies on parada actually is, all I know is that my army can't possibly fit on a 24x24 tile and that you're thread is off to a cool start. Subbed.

**Ssgt Carl**

Didn't get a lot done today. Some painting. Mostly worked on figures. I gotta pick up the pace to be done by Saturday

**Ssgt Carl**

So I got a bit more done today. I pretty much have to let it go in a half-finished state cuz I just dont have the time.

What is left is to fix up the space boiler contraption. Ill paint some yellow lines or something on the concrete just for some character and tomorrow I am going to scratch build a building corner. I'm starting to think I took on a little more than I should have but I'm far enough along that I'm gonna finish... heh

what it looks like now

More lessons learned

Tallus does not stick well when just pressed into wet spackle. the little pebbles tend to come up when I paint leaving little white holes behind.

I now know why its called 'static' grass. That stuff sticks to anything, whether i put glue there or not. Spent a half hour brushing off the crashed ship and the boiler.

**Ssgt Carl**

So I made a quick ruin today. This is my Non-Standard Tmplate Construct building method. It took about 30 min to build (I didn't time it but I started a load of laundry in the dryer before I started and finished building before the load was done)

It's not a good example because I really didn't measure anything. Speed took precedence over quality but it came out ok.

I spent a little more on the project. Found some by craft moulding at Michael's that was on sale and decided to pick it up. About $5. Used that and a sheet of foamboard.

Cut out some rough shapes with the ol' exacto

Glue gunned 'em together

Used a little craft saw and cut out the moulding. Glued the pieces on with a glue gun and/or wood glue.

On the board before painting

For painting I spent about 15 minutes

First I primed it black, getting all cracks and such

After black I went over it lightly with brown then grey.

After the grey I went back and where I wanted scorched/burned areas I hit with the brown again like so

The somewhat carefully streaked a bit of black over the brown

I did A kinda heavy drybrush with some light grey and light grey/brown

And here is my AoP display board as it is now

The board has reached a state I am going to call "there". It really only hase a very base level of detail but I feel like I have fulfilled my intent. I will be able to enter the AoP thing this Sat and I learned quite a bit about making terrain

New lessons learned:

You gotta be fast with a glue gun. It is not the best tool when you want to glue something flat (i.e. the moulding) because if it cools too much before you can apply the thing being glued, the hard glob prevents you from pressing it flat.

craft moulding, like for dollhouse baseboards and such, make great window framing.

Next two days is finishing a few figures and getting my army based.

**bunnygurl**

I like that! Nice work!

**Ssgt Carl**

Here are som guys I got done up this morning. Tonight and tomorrow I will get the bases finished on my army and hopefully get a Librarian done, then finished!
A vet type goober

This was a test for how I will be painting the Termies from here on out. Switching to black helmets

This is my first devestator

**Hawk**

Those are looking good.

**Ssgt Carl**

So i finally got this thing done enough to enter about 2 hours before i have to be up to the store to enter it...

This is the whole thing. I know. No vehicles. Someday when I'm a billionaire and can afford any new citadel models I'll add some.

A little sign I thought was cute

and the command squad.

While this entry for Armies on Parade isn't really competetive it at least inspired me to finish a few more figs and finally get some sort of basing done. Ill take some photos in the store today of this and the competition.

**Dark_Gear**

It doesn't matter that it's competitive or not if, as you say, it helped you to finish some more models. I just can't believe how quickly you banged this board out the door and still managed to get some cool little detail touches on there as well (such as that warning sign). Looking forward to more of your projects.

**Ssgt Carl**

Well... apparently I won, though I can't take too much pride as there was only one other entry! I guess that's the benefit of living near a fairly small GW store.

So here are shots of mine and the one other entry at the shop
mine

the other, which is a WHFB Choas Warriors army

and just in case you don't believe me, a little victory shot with my general

I didn't ask how close it was, or how many votes there were or anything. The other board looked pretty good I thought but perhaps I got votes for scratchbuilt stuff as opposed to using only Citadel terrain. I dunno.

My next challenge is figuring out how to get the Gamesday 2011 fig (the prize was a ticket to gamesday and entry into the contest there) without having to go to the lair of the antichrist (or as some call it 'Chicago')

**monkeytroll**

Nice going, especially as that board was only a few days work

**Dark_Gear**

Congrats! See, that's what you get when you scratch-build your own display rather than just go with store bought parts. Job well done.

**Ssgt Carl**

Okay. So that thing is done and I'm already wanting to start a new project; one I have been thinking about for awhile.

I want to create a small army, making an effort to paint every piece well. It will be space marines, but the chapter has no official colors, rather, each marine wears his personal heraldry (like Bretonians).

Le Chevaliers de Fio (still not sure if that is the final name)

The Chevaliers de Fio recruit from the world Evropa. The planet is split into numerous fiefs ruled by privelaged families from the CdF choose their initiates. The lower classes toil in poverty and the greates hope they can aspire to is to join the Imperial Guard. There are tales of Evropan soldiers becoming heroes in the IG and having their family elevated to a recruitable status, but most consider these fairy tales.

A quirk of the CdF is that some of the Marines actually retire, returning to thier fief to rule, often concentrating on preparing young family members for initiation into the CdF.

That is some very basic fluff. I wouldn't expect anyone to read much more but perhaps I will expand on it when (and if) the project gains some momentum.

For now, here are some shots of a wip test model. I am going for a heraldric look. I'm not sure if I like the black line separating the red and white (thoughts?) and i need some practice on my checkerboard pattern. Over the next few days I hope to do 2 or 3 more marines in completely differnt heraldry and see how they look together.

Any ideas on ways to make them look more 'knightly' would be appreciated. I'm thinking about finding some way to add flags/banners/streamers to basic marines.

**Dark_Gear**

Liking the basic fluff thus far. It justifies the checkered pattern on the armour quite nicely. Speaking of which, you're doing a good job with the pattern. The colour scheme really stands out compared to most vanilla, monotone, paint jobs of the Astartes.

As for making them look "more knightly" one place to start would be to make every marine unique via particular heraldic markings, to indicate how they all can trace a lineage to the nobility. Back in the day all knights used to be nobles because only they had the money to pay for 1) the training, 2) the armour, 3) the weapons and 4) the tournaments (which were basically a secondary form of training once a knight had come of age).

One trick to showcase the individuality of each marine (even though they could all be part of the same family tree or clan) would be to GS an arm pit shield like what Terminators have. In french the term for that piece of armour is rouelle (i.e. small wheel) or targe which morphed into target because it was the small shield that knights would aim for when jousting.

Whatever you end up doing, can't wait to see what you come up with as your projects have been awesome thus far.

**neil101**

congratulations ,it looks cool

**steeds of war**

Looking good and congrats on the win.

**Two Spartan**

thats some real nice fast terrain!
for the knightly id get some actual bretonian shields or banners, to really make each marine unique. Sounds good man looking forward to it

**monkeytroll**

I second the idea of shields, either the small targes or some form of combat shield. For the black between colours have you thought about micron pens? That's the kind of task they're ideal for.

**Ssgt Carl**

One trick to showcase the individuality of each marine (even though they could all be part of the same family tree or clan) would be to GS an arm pit shield like what Terminators have. In french the term for that piece of armour is rouelle (i.e. small wheel) or targe which morphed into target because it was the small shield that knights would aim for when jousting.

I really like this idea and I think i will give it a go once a get some more gs.

For the black between colours have you thought about micron pens?

Also brilliant. I had bought pens for just this type of thing and had completely forgotten about them

So here is another test WIP.

here's the two test guys together

So, do you think a whole squad of multicolored different looking marines will look alright or does it get too busy?

Chest eagles and bolters. Should I paint them in differnt colors/styles like the armor or should I make them all the same so that there is some kind of uniformity among all the different marines? I am leaning toward making them all the same.

**monkeytroll**

Looking good, I really like the blue and yellow one.

Think if you had 3 maybe 4 colour schemes, and then different shapes/type of heraldry shouuld be fine, and I agree, eagles and bolters should be uniform throughout.

**Ssgt Carl**

This is my first conversion using greenstuff ever. I used one from a 'ebay marines' (a lot a got off ebay already assembled, most poorly). Added a little cape and targe. Im banking on the targe looking better after its painted.

**Ssgt Carl**

Here are a couple pics of my WIP of Tancred of Beleaux. The blown pics with the flash show me how much i need a better painting light (along with some more skill) as they are not particualarly flattering

Here he is with the other 2 WIPs

and some detail of his cape and left shoulder

I'm trying the lightning on the power sword again as a lot of folks commented that the one I did for my AoBR Capt was too dark. I hope another 2 or 3 layers will come out looking ok

So now that I feel like I am gonna start this chapter, I need an idea for what models to get. I think I will shoot for about a 1000 pt army. A competetive list is not necessary at all. I want to play them like their fluff (which is also the way I like to play anyways.

The Chevaliers are not popular among the other chapters. Their battle record is somewhat lackluster, puncuated with as many devastating losses and astounding victories. This is the direct result of constant squabbling of leadership and excessive arrogance. The main solution of a CdF when faced with a tactical problem is "Charge! our faith will bring us victory!" Many of the CdF have often hoped for the defeat of another captain as it meant an opportunity to usurp a position of leadership and prestige. The concept of rank is drastically different than standard codex chapters. Often, it is the marine whos family can provide the greatest resources in treasure and men (both Marines or IG) that is granted a leadership role in a given expedition.

More cautious commanders are often ridiculed for a lack of faith or even cowardice, regardless of their prior records. Other space marine chapters often refuse to work with them and many are surprised the CdF have not yet destroyed themselves. Their survival is most likely due to the fact that Evropan aristocracy are constantly competing amongst each other to have the greatest number of family members recruited by the marines. There is never a shortage of qualified candidates.

So, having a limited knowledge of the actual gamea dn only having played about 6 games total, I am thinking assault termies and drop pods might make a nice core. Any suggestions for a list or unit ideas would be most welcome.

**pretre**

Looks great. Props for the win, although too bad there weren't more opponents to crush.

And finally, huge props for your background story for the Chevaliers. It is great to see chapter fluff that isn't 'OMG WE ARE THE BEST'.

Flaws make characters.

Keep up the great work!

**bunnygurl**

Definitely interesting. I very much like the idea. I appreciate your motivation as well for this as I think painting a bunch of different colors and designs can be exciting but also kinda challenging. My fav so far is the red and black one. Keep up with this. I'm eager to see what else you come up with!

**Ssgt Carl**

I have been trying abit more with greenstuff and built a new marine. I used some Bretonian parts.

Roger of Somne.

I'll put on his backpack after painting.

**Dark_Gear**

Your conversions are shaping nicely. The cape in particular is very well done IMHO. Smart use of Bretonian bits on the last marine too. The hand strap on the shield is a neat bit of attention to detail.

**Ssgt Carl**

pretre wrote:
And finally, huge props for your background story for the Chevaliers. It is great to see chapter fluff that isn't 'OMG WE ARE THE BEST'.

Flaws make characters.

The fluff is strongly based on 11th century Normans and their appearance more so on 14th/15th century knights.

bunnygurl wrote: I appreciate your motivation as well for this as I think painting a bunch of different colors and designs can be exciting but also kinda challenging.

I get bored when I paint assembly line style so I think a one-at-a-time approach, though it will take longer, will keep me more interested in the project.

Dark_Gear wrote:Your conversions are shaping nicely. The cape in particular is very well done IMHO. Smart use of Bretonian bits on the last marine too. The hand strap on the shield is a neat bit of attention to detail.

To be honest the cape was the easiest thing I did. i just flattened out a piece of GS, squared the edges and stuck on the back of the Marine and then put his backpack on.

Thanks for all the comments. It gives me motivation and I have gotten some great ideas from yall's input!

**Effendi**

I like the different colors that are used for each marine. For one it reminds me of the grail knights/ brettonian knights. For two, fluffwise the chapter could recruit from a system that still has a strong feudal nobility caste. That way they could be from different kingdoms and or planets.

**Ssgt Carl**

Not much done the last few days (sister got married this weekend) Here's a little something new and hopefully I'll get to some more painting tomorrow.

The only permenant leadership of the Chevaliers de Fio is the Ecclesiastic Council. The one thing that allows the the highly competetive and ambitious Marines to work together is their faith. The Eccliastic Council determine the chapters policies and the lay leadership (that is current chapter master and captain equivalents) obey and enforce it. The head of the Council is seen by the entire planet of Evropa as the direct representative of the Emperor and a vessel of his will. While true dominance of the church over the chapter's lay leadership is rare, a Marine can only hope to maintain a position of lay authority by, at least outwardly, submitting to the will of the council.

The Council is the spiritual head of the planet of Evropa. Officially Evropa is governed by various non Space Marine lay leaders, they too must submit to the Coucil lest thier own subjects label them heretics. The council interacts with the planets population as frequently as they do with the chapter, be it to deliver a sermon, recruit men for a campaign or to collect the church's share of planetary profits. Though the Council is essentially a part of the Chevaliers de Fio it is not particularly uncommon for non Space Marines to sit on the council. High ranking members of the church are often granted a position on the Council. Charisma and theological knowledge are valued more highly by the Council than martial prowess. The Ecclesiastic council sees itself as a religious body, not a military body. This does not mean that marines on the council don't fight, it is simply that being a warrior is not a prerequisite for an individual to be accepted.

The true politics of the Religious and Lay leadership is far more complicated than this paragraph can portray. If you have an understanding of how crusaders like Baldwin 1 and Bohemond dealt with the church in the 11th and early 12th centuries you will have some idea of how things work on Evropa. Think of the head of the Ecclesiastic council sort of as the pope.

So here is Bishop Adhemar. May intention is that he can be used as a stand in for Chapter Master, Captain or Chaplain

I am not really knowledgeable of the official GW 40k fluff, so if any of my fluff is completely incompatible with GWs, please point it out.