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Intro:

The storm troopers were designed to be a rapid deployment strike force. Their ranks are drawn from the orphaned sons of imperial officials. these storm troopers are rarely deployed in force but regiments of them have proved instrumental in taking objectives where ground forces have trouble approaching such as islands, high walls, thick forests, etc. These soldiers are the best trained and the best equipped in the whole of the imperial guard. The storm troopers prefer to deploy via valkyrie and vendetta transports appreciating mobility over firepower and rarely carry anything that is not man-portable.

HQ

Storm trooper command squad: 100 points

4 Storm Troopers: Ws 3 Bs 4 S 3 W 1 I 3 Ld 7 Sv 4+

1 Storm Trooper Commander: Ws 4 3 Bs 4 S 3 W 3 I 3 Ld 9 Sv 4+

Options: The squad may choose any of the upgrades detailed in Codex: Imperial Guard (page 90) EXEPT FOR THE HAEVY WEAPONS TEAMS UPGRADES, CARAPACE ARMOR UPGRADE AND REGIMENTAL ADVISERS

Wargear: Hot-shot lasgun (Storm Trooper Commander has Hot-shot laspistol instead), Close combat weapon, Carapace armor, Frag grenades, Krak grenades

Special Rules: Senior officer (company commander only)

Transport: The squad may take a chimera, a valkyrie or a vendetta as a dedicated transport.



Lord Commissar: See Codex: Imperial Guard



Techpriest Eginseer: See Codex: Imperial Guard



Elites


Storm Trooper Drop Squad: 95 Points

4 Storm Troopers: Ws 3 Bs 4 S 3 W 1 I 3 Ld 7 Sv 4+

1 Storm Trooper Sergeant: Ws 3 Bs 4 S 3 W 1 I 3 Ld 8 Sv 4+

Options: The Squad may take any options detailed in Codex: Imperial Guard page 95 (extra models cost 19 points a piece)

Wargear: Hot-shot lasgun (Storm Trooper Sergeant has Hot-shot laspistol instead), Close combat weapon, Carapace armor, Frag grenades, Krak grenades

Special Rules: Deep Strike, Special Operations (see page 46 of Codex: Imperial Guard and add these new choices: Juggernaut: replace Hot-shot lasgun and close combat weapon with power weapon and give the squad the rage universal special rule AND Hunters: give the squad the night vision/acute senses universal special rule and treat the squads Hot-shot lasguns as assault 2)

Transport: The squad must take a valkyrie or vendetta as transport.



Troops

Storm Trooper Squad: 150

9 Storm Troopers: Ws 3 Bs 4 S 3 W 1 I 3 Ld 7 Sv 4+

1 Storm Trooper Sergeant: Ws 3 Bs 4 S 3 W 1 I 3 Ld 8 Sv 4+

Options: The Squad may take any options detailed in Codex: Imperial Guard page 95

Wargear: Hot-shot lasgun (Storm Trooper Sergeant has Hot-shot laspistol instead), Close combat weapon, Carapace armor, Frag grenades, Krak grenades

Transport: The squad may take a chimera, a valkyrie or a vendetta as a dedicated transport.


Dedicated Transport: chimera see Codex Imperial Guard



Fast Attack:

Valkyrie: See Codex: Imperial Guard

Vendetta: See Codex: Imperial Guard



Heavy Support:

Vampire Missile Gunship: 190 Points

Bs 3 F 12 S 12 R 10

Composition: 1-3 Vampires in a squadron

Type: Vehicle (fast, skimmer

Wargear: 4 Storm Eagle Rockets (See Codex: Imperial Guard page 54), Heavy Bolter

Special Rules: Scout, Deep Strike

Transport capacity: None

Options: Any Vampire may take a pair of sponsons armed with heavy bolters




Fast Attack:

Valkyrie: See Codex: Imperial Guard

Vendetta: See Codex: Imperial Guard



Heavy Support:

Vampire Missile Gunship: 190 Points

Bs 3 F 12 S 12 R 10

Composition: 1-3 Vampires in a squadron

Type: Vehicle (fast, skimmer)

Wargear: 4 Storm Eagle Rockets (See Codex: Imperial Guard page 54), Heavy Bolter

Special Rules: Scout, Deep Strike

Transport capacity: None

Options: Any Vampire may take a pair of sponsons armed with heavy bolters









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Juggernaut is a complete joke.
You wrote the heavy support section twice.
You need to spell-check it.
This should really be in proposed rules.
There are not many units to take either and very few ways of playing this 'list' you either go mech or airborne.

Yeah, there's really not enough units in this "Fandex" to be a White Dwarf army list, and for the most part there's barely any variation.

You actually made stormtroopers worse since yours don't come with a hellpistol and close combat weapon in addition to their hellguns.

Just a small fluff blurb: There aren't multiple Storm Trooper Regiments, there's only one - though it is (at peak times) 20.000 men strong. They don't deploy in regimental strength, but occasionally entire companies get sent to a warzone, which is where I guess your idea could fit in.

Variation is an issue, though. How about you'd try something like a Last Chancers 'dex for small games, just with Storm Troopers?

Alternatively, you could try to come up with some variations of units, such as sappers or a sniper, or an ST unit with shields for storming trenches (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormtrooper#German_Stormtroopers).

Lynata wrote:Just a small fluff blurb: There aren't multiple Storm Trooper Regiments, there's only one - though it is (at peak times) 20.000 men strong. They don't deploy in regimental strength, but occasionally entire companies get sent to a warzone, which is where I guess your idea could fit in.

What's the source for this? it seems a bit odd that Storm troopers are rarer in the galaxy than Space Marines, by a huge amount, no less.

Sovnarkom wrote:

Lynata wrote:Just a small fluff blurb: There aren't multiple Storm Trooper Regiments, there's only one - though it is (at peak times) 20.000 men strong. They don't deploy in regimental strength, but occasionally entire companies get sent to a warzone, which is where I guess your idea could fit in.

What's the source for this? it seems a bit odd that Storm troopers are rarer in the galaxy than Space Marines, by a huge amount, no less.

I've never seen the 20,000 men strong part either. Nor anything saying there's one "Stormtrooper Regiment".

There's hundreds if not thousands of Stormtrooper Companies, which naturally are also under Regimental formations for further organizational structure. There's some hinting that the Stormtrooper Regiments are organized based upon the Sectors they were raised and trained within.

The only correct part from Lynata's post is that Stormtroopers are not deployed in regimental strength unless necessity requires it.
They usually will issue a few Companies from a Stormtrooper Regiment for an entire Crusade force and they'll then be broken down further.

Usually there will be a portion of the Stormtroopers in a warzone relegated to bodyguard work for high ranking Guard Command elements, Commissariat elements, and Inquisitorial elements.

The majority of the Stormtroopers in a warzone, however, are doled out to commanders to use as they see fit.


On another note:

Why did you create the Vampire Gunship? Why do people keep creating new "gunships" when the role they keep trying to give it is performed by the Vulture Gunship, which already exists?

Well this was kind of a rough draft.

and anyway i didn't "create" the vendetta. it's in the codex!

Sovnarkom wrote:What's the source for this? it seems a bit odd that Storm troopers are rarer in the galaxy than Space Marines, by a huge amount, no less.

The exact number is mentioned in the 2E Guard 'dex, and the 5E Codex still talks of "the Storm Trooper Regiment" in singular form, not plural.

Don't fret, I'm sure most players are unaware of this little detail. It's the same as with the 30.000 Battle Sisters. Everyone always thinks that Space Marines are the rarest type of soldier of the Imperium just because they are the most powerful one - yet, whilst certainly a reasonable assumption, this formula doesn't hold true in 40k.

[edit]For sake of completion (and because these books are hard to find), here's the actual quote:

The Storm Troopers are the Imparial Guard's best fighting regiment. Unlike other regiments they are recruited from all across the Imperium, and they wear a distinctive uniform which is instantly recognisable by other Imperial Guard units. The regiment is unusually large, with as many as ten thousand men under arms at one time. However, it rarely fights in one place. Instead, individual companies or battalions of a thousand men at a time are sent to war zones to bolster the fighting strength of the Imperial Guard. In action they provide a core of ultra-trained, well-equipped squads that can be spread amongst the other Imperial Guard regiments as needed.
-2C:IG p21

Turns out I remembered wrong, it's just 10.000.

They also deploy in greater numbers, it seems, yet still in a supplementary function and not to wage a campaign all on their own.

Gee. Robin Cruddace fethed the bed? Noooooooooooooooooooooo.

Seriously, 10,000 stormtroopers spread out between thousands of simultaneous conflicts being fought across an empire of at least a million worlds? Even dumber than only having 30,000 Sisters of Battle. I don't think any of the 40k authors have any sense of scale.

Couldn't you just take the storm troopers entry and modify that? Just say "may take advisors, move to HQ" etc.

I am not sure if i am really drunk but i did not see a toughness value on anything.

Tazz Azrael wrote:I am not sure if i am really drunk but i did not see a toughness value on anything.

You should also not see any attack value. If you see it you indeed are drunk.

CalgarsPimpHand wrote:Seriously, 10,000 stormtroopers spread out between thousands of simultaneous conflicts being fought across an empire of at least a million worlds? Even dumber than only having 30,000 Sisters of Battle. I don't think any of the 40k authors have any sense of scale.

The 30,000 Sisters of Battle thing is explicitly referring to the "Major" Orders.

There's said to be uncountable amounts of Minor Orders.

Macok wrote:

Tazz Azrael wrote:I am not sure if i am really drunk but i did not see a toughness value on anything.

You should also not see any attack value. If you see it you indeed are drunk.

Thank god i am not the only one that does not see those then.

CalgarsPimpHand wrote:Seriously, 10,000 stormtroopers spread out between thousands of simultaneous conflicts being fought across an empire of at least a million worlds? Even dumber than only having 30,000 Sisters of Battle. I don't think any of the 40k authors have any sense of scale.

Not really... It all comes down to how and when they are used - which, in case of the SoB, simply doesn't happen as often as the Space Marines, and in case of the Storm Troopers not as numerous as them.

It also fits to all those Force Composition charts we've seen all over various warzones mentioned in several GW books.
Look at how many Storm Troopers or Battle Sisters fought in the Third War for Armageddon. The number of Space Marine companies in that list is ten times higher.

Kanluwen wrote:The 30,000 Sisters of Battle thing is explicitly referring to the "Major" Orders. There's said to be uncountable amounts of Minor Orders.

The text refers to the Orders Militant as a whole. Furthermore, there's quite a difference between "uncountable" and "many" - the latter being GW's official wording straight out of the 5E rulebook. Which also caps the size of the minor Orders at ~100 Sisters each.
GW's "Villainy and Infamy" article also mentions how all the SoB novices go to Terra to take their vows before being sent to their convents. I'm not sure this would be practical when they're as big as you seem to think.

Seriously, why do you think they have to be that numerous? They hardly show up anywhere.

Stormtroopers are effectively commisars in training (citation below). Think how many commissars there are, even if it is ONE per regiment that's a 100 million commissars. Then think of how many stormtroopers actually survive their full tenure of service to become commissars.

Your (made up) number of 20,000 is ridculous.

As to the OP i think there is a kernel of a good idea but the execution isn't quite there. Maybe have a look at the FW elysian list and think how you could adapt it to be a storm trooper force.


Looked it up again, citation WD 115 'Commisar training squads'
'A (commisariate) cadet.. may be either sent to a stormtrooper unit or become an officer in a penal battalion.'

Lynata discredited....

Perkustin wrote:Stormtroopers are effectively commisars in training (citation below).

No. Commissars and Storm Troopers both come from the Schola Progenium.

"Storm Troopers are recruited from the orphan sons of Imperial officials - such as planetary governors or high ranking members of the Imperial Guard or Navy - from all over the galaxy. These privileged young orphans are raised by the Schola Progenium. Here they are schooled to love the Emperor and are shown the many ways in which they can earn his gratitude and repay their debt to the Imperium for their upbringing. They gladly embrace a demanding and unremitting regime of prayer, study and physical exercise. Years of punishing training have honed the minds, bodies and skills of the Storm Troopers to the very peak of human perfection."
5E-C:IG, p46 - Storm Troopers

"Unlike individual regiments that are levied when they are needed, Commissars are raised in the Schola Progenium."
5E-C:IG, p32 - Commissars

"Many Commissars first serve in one of the elite Storm Trooper companies and as such are well versed in the tactics and brutality of warfare."
5E-C:IG, p32 - Commissars

Note that "many" isn't "all" and that a Commissar cadet's tour of duty with a Storm Trooper unit obviously cannot be very long, for it's simply meant to be an advanced course of their training to get them ready for the real thing.

Perkustin wrote:Your (made up) number of 20,000 is ridculous.

The number of 10.000 was "made up" by Games Workshop (source and citation provided above) and is yet to be undone. Don't like it? Well - it's their setting, not yours.

Perkustin wrote:Looked it up again, citation WD 115 'Commisar training squads'
'A (commisariate) cadet.. may be either sent to a stormtrooper unit or become an officer in a penal battalion.'

"Sent to", not "becomes a". Also you seem to forget all those Penal Battalions, of which there are many, many more than Storm Trooper companies.

The idea that all Commissars have been Storm Troopers and all Storm Troopers become Commissars is ridiculous, and obviously not in line with what the fluff actually says.

Perkustin wrote:Lynata discredited....

Better luck next time.

Hmm you are quick to attempt to pick apart my actual hard canon facts but fail to cite your own....... ? To be fair the first sentence of my post about stormtroopers being effectively commissars in training was written before i looked it up, it was more of an 'IIRC' thought. The rest is solid though.

As to your attempted defence of the indefencable (Props btw ) I leave you with the following thoughts:

Wow so there must be ALOT (ballpark figure: of half the imperium) of penal legion battallions...... Oh wait your theory is made up (or possibly retconned, quite rightly, into oblivion) so is bound to be full of holes.

Oh and just a minor thing notice the word 'Many' in the sentence 'Many commissars first serve in one of the elite stormtrooper companies'. Many is indeed not all but neither is 'many' an infinitessimily small fraction (which the figure of 10,000 would suggest). Many is between 'some' and 'most'. 'Some' and 'most' of at the least 100 million commissars is guaranteed to be more than 10,000.

Must try harder Lynata..... The starchild sensei stormtrooper squat regiment is gone, if it even existed in the first place.

Perkustin wrote:Hmm you are quick to attempt to pick apart my actual hard canon facts but fail to cite your own....... ?

I'm going to assume you simply did not read the earlier post. Going to quote myself:

The Storm Troopers are the Imparial Guard's best fighting regiment. Unlike other regiments they are recruited from all across the Imperium, and they wear a distinctive uniform which is instantly recognisable by other Imperial Guard units. The regiment is unusually large, with as many as ten thousand men under arms at one time. However, it rarely fights in one place. Instead, individual companies or battalions of a thousand men at a time are sent to war zones to bolster the fighting strength of the Imperial Guard. In action they provide a core of ultra-trained, well-equipped squads that can be spread amongst the other Imperial Guard regiments as needed.
-2C:IG p21

Now also highlighting the important bit.

Perkustin wrote:Oh wait your theory is made up (or possibly retconned, quite rightly, into oblivion) so is bound to be full of holes.

Feel free to point them out, then. If you have anything that does actually retcon the above official GW Codex canon, cite it.

Perkustin wrote:The starchild sensei stormtrooper squat regiment is gone, if it even existed in the first place.

What? I admit I've never heard of anything like that. I'm referring to the one human IG Storm Trooper Regiment from the Codices 2E-5E.

Storm Troopers generally don't operate on their own. As far as I've seen, they only fight under the command of an Inquisitor or when seconded to Guard regiments; if you wanted to make an army list specifically for Storm Troopers I suppose you could but you'd end up with a list with as little variability or tactical viability as the 3rd edition Grey Knight only army.

I personally could see storm troopers representing elites like the kasrkin, thus explaining why there are storm trooper equivalents available more frequently than 10k total "storm troopers" would allow.

And based on the fact that the Schola Progenium is actually a number of different Schola worlds, I'd think that the total number of Storm Troopers in the galaxy is way larger than 10,000. Back in the 3e Imperial Guard Codex they described the planet Terrax, which was completely devoted to the training of Storm Troopers.

AnomanderRake wrote:And based on the fact that the Schola Progenium is actually a number of different Schola worlds, I'd think that the total number of Storm Troopers in the galaxy is way larger than 10,000. Back in the 3e Imperial Guard Codex they described the planet Terrax, which was completely devoted to the training of Storm Troopers.

Terrax was not "completely devoted to the training of Storm Troopers".

It was a Schola Progenium training world. The majority of individuals who were part of the Guard foundings there would later go on to join the Stormtroopers or become Commissars, bodyguards for Lord Generals, etc.