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Hey Everyone,

Ok, I think this might get a tad confusing so I'm going to try and organize these questions the best I can.

Basically I am in the final stages of building my DKoK troops, but because of the limitations of the models, and a few other factors, I'm having a very hard time figuring out what to do.

Sorry for the length. I have scoured these forums trying to find the answers, but these are the last things I'm unsure of.

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Infantry Squads:

Squad A:

Commissar - Power Sword / Laspistol
Sergeant - Lasgun
1 GL
1 Flamer
16 Infantry

Squad B:

Commissar - Power Sword / Laspistol
Sergeant - Lasgun
1 GL
1 Flamer
16 Infantry

Questions:

1. In the photo below, you can see the stock configuration for the DKoK infantry. I just happened to notice that the Sergeant comes with a Lasgun and Frag:



When looking at the codex last night I realized under "Wargear" that the Sergeant can only take a Laspistol...does this mean my two Sergeants are not correct?

2. The codex states that the Sergeant / Commissar can exchange their Laspistol and/or Close-combat weapon with a Power Weapon or Plasma Pistol for 10 points.

I'm confused as to what this means. How many points would it be if I were to put a Power Sword and a Plasma Pistol on my Commissars?

3. I have yet to build "Squad B" (doing that this weekend). Would you suggest I keep the 1 GL and 1 Flamer, or go with 2 GL or 2 Flamers instead?

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Veteran Squads:

Vet Squad A:

Sergeant
3 Meltas
5 Lasguns
1 HF

Demolitions
Carapace


Vet Squad B:

Sergeant
3 Plasma
5 Lasguns
1 HF

Demolitions
Carapace

Vet Squad C:

Sergeant - Shotgun
2 Flamers
6 Shotguns
1 Missile Lancher

Carapace

Questions:

1. I have not yet added weapons to the Sergeants in Squad A or B. I have purchased the following weapons pack from Forge World:



Would it be a good idea to exchange the Laspistols for Plasma Pistols? Or, would it make sense to keep the Laspistol and exchange the Sword for a Plasma Pistol?

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Thanks for all your help guys. If I can figure out this last bit of stuff I'll have all my troops together and ready to go.

Q.1/ The codex IG sergeants do indeed have laspistol and CCW instead of a lasgun. The FW list watchmasters may exchange their CCW and Pistol for a lasgun. Of course, nobody would really complain that the lasgun wielding sergeant is illegal unless if they're real jerks, although you do want to give them swords if you are giving them power weapons, you'd be surprised by the amount of people you meet who would give you grief for having a chainsword as a powersword.

Q.2/ +10points for each, so taking the power sword and pistol would be +20 points.

Q.3/ It doesn't really matter, it depends on what weapons you are comfortable fielding. There are some people who may advocate you switch them to meltas however.

Q.1b/ Again a personal preference, I personally wouldn't upgrade the stock sergeants (i.e. anyone with a BS of 3) with plasma pistols as their BS isn't good enough to warrant a decent pistol.

Snarky wrote:Q.1/ The codex IG sergeants do indeed have laspistol and CCW instead of a lasgun. The FW list watchmasters may exchange their CCW and Pistol for a lasgun. Of course, nobody would really complain that the lasgun wielding sergeant is illegal unless if they're real jerks, although you do want to give them swords if you are giving them power weapons, you'd be surprised by the amount of people you meet who would give you grief for having a chainsword as a powersword.

Q.2/ +10points for each, so taking the power sword and pistol would be +20 points.

Q.3/ It doesn't really matter, it depends on what weapons you are comfortable fielding. There are some people who may advocate you switch them to meltas however.

Q.1b/ Again a personal preference, I personally wouldn't upgrade the stock sergeants (i.e. anyone with a BS of 3) with plasma pistols as their BS isn't good enough to warrant a decent pistol.

Thanks Snarky,

That clears a few things up.

1. I'll have to see about building my other Sergeants with Laspistols instead. I'm just not entirely sure I have enough extras...but I might.

2. Perfect. The nice thing about the Commissar models is that their guns are holstered so I can just say what they are without running into WYSIWYG issues.

3. I don't think I have enough Meltas to make that work unfortunately. :S

4. I think you're right with that. I think I'll put Laspistols and Power Swords if I can.

I think it's better to just run the sergeants as they come. 10pts for a power sword on a guardsman isn't usually all that helpful as they're going to get massacred in CC either way, unless they're fighting Fire Warriors or something.

Thanks Purple,,

The big problem I have now is the weapons on my infantry Sergeants. Because of the extra weapons I think I will be able to put Laspistols on them, but it leaves me with nothing for the CCW. I might have a few chain swords, but I can't think of anything else other than add on plasma pistols.

Oh, and I have like a billion knives.

Any ideas?

Use them as bayonets on Lasguns that don't already have them.

They come with bayonets for the lasguns, many of my infantry have them attached. But, many also come with a bigger hunting type knife.