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Joyboozer wrote:
Is that 3D virus containment unit a fancy scifi toilet paper holder?

It's a machine for picking up the random, round lego blocks my kids keep hiding in the rug for my soles to find.

I expected this too little, too late 300K corrective measure. Stretch goals to fund paid add-ons = momentum-killing rookie mistake. Huge companies like CMON don't do it. Small companies like Modiphius don't do it. Actual rookie companies with no track record like Diemension games don't do it. All three of those companies have run / are running KS campaigns that easily surpass this one. Paid add-ons are supposed to attract enough interest to 1. pay for themselves and 2. fund further stretch goals that add to the value of the core pledge. They aren't supposed to BE stretch goals. Attempting to fund another paid add-on expansion in the campaign's final hours would be laughable. There's not going to be an end rush; they'll be lucky to avoid a backslide.

What I'd do to save the ship: Make the last big stretch goal an expansion that's included in the base pledge, and make it good and original, not a rehash of Warpath renders / models that people funded and purchased in hard plastic in a previous campaign. Yep, just like the Nameless expansion that Mantic already did. That's the kind of expansion KS campaigns are supposed to fund - lots of brand-spanking new material, not warmed up leftovers. I'd say go Rebs vs. Zz'or, or something on that order of newness and interest.

Otherwise, I hope Mantic will be content to release just the core game and one expansion (Blackstar Station). (The mission and character creators aren't going to sell at retail as separate "expansions." All they'll do is make the base game look incomplete. Better to stop pretending and just include them in the core box, as should have been done from the beginning.)

Well, oddly, Mantic has always been bad at running Kickstarters. They only went out of control in the early years when we weren't spoiled yet or when Mantic did damage control by putting in huge extra value at the last moment.

So they threw in everything I guess, it still lacks any form of excitement....

Except we can't actually get that yet.

That's not until we hit the 325k goal.

I really dislike add ons as stretches. Some companies do it, some don't, but I NEVER like it.

Well my wife grabbed an EB and added for the expansion mega bundle. I'm still not super interested but she's into it so whatevs, I'm not gonna piss in her cereal

I did find it amusing that one of the expansions takes place underwater and will have rules for submerged rooms. Looks like Mantic has been checking out their KS competition

Mantic never do something just because others have done it before.

When will they make the the pointy-helmed Gold Card Enforcers and bonus Platinum Sisters stretch goals?

I don't know. I'm still grumbling about what I perceive as the Nameless fluff direction change. Have an EB, might drop, unfortunately can't see yet if any of the concept art turns out to be basilean.

 .Mikes. wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
Is that 3D virus containment unit a fancy scifi toilet paper holder?

It's a machine for picking up the random, round lego blocks my kids keep hiding in the rug for my soles to find.

I dunno about that Mike it really doesn't look much like a Roomba at all.

 Taaloc wrote:
I don't know. I'm still grumbling about what I perceive as the Nameless fluff direction change. Have an EB, might drop, unfortunately can't see yet if any of the concept art turns out to be basilean.

I haven't kept up with this campaign, what's the change?

I'm actually pretty impressed by the value in the base pledge, I don't even play crawlers ever and I think I'll keep my EB.

Not impressed at all so far I am afraid the only interesting miniature is the shark lady and she is just a sketch given how badly they translated the space vampire and not shown any new renders 3 weeks later I am not hopeful for this either.

I haven't been following this thread very closely. Does anyone have thoughts on gameplay? Looking at all the stuff in the base pledge, I feel like it might be worth it to combine with my Sedtion Wars tiles/terrain and Battle Systems set, but I'm not quite ready to take the plunge...

Some nice progress overnight the 48 hour email seems to have enticed a few backers in.

Ronnine's Bonanza is unlocked. Next up is 6 extra nameless minions added to the core pledge @310k which is $650 away then @$325 the expansion deal becomes available

Some more painted prototypes

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This is actually starting to look like it will have a pretty good value.
I might back after all...

It shall fill the hole in my heart left by Sedition Wars!

I guess the Strain would fill in alright as Plague wouldn't they?

If Sedition Wars could somehow find a second home in Space Saga, that would be pretty cool.

The value is definitely getting up there.

I thought about ditching my EB but I think I'll keep it in the end. At the very least I get a bunch of deadzone/ warpath fodder and furniture!

$325k down the new expansions and bundle deal are officially available

Next @$330k 3D Explosives Objective marker



Then Hund Rin bounty hunter (new sculpt) added to core pledge @$345k

This must be the silliest alien they have designed so far.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I guess the Strain would fill in alright as Plague wouldn't they?

If Sedition Wars could somehow find a second home in Space Saga, that would be pretty cool.

The value is definitely getting up there.

I thought about ditching my EB but I think I'll keep it in the end. At the very least I get a bunch of deadzone/ warpath fodder and furniture!

Strain would work as plague, with the monsters as Mercs or nameless, maybe. The Samaritans share a lot of design cues with the Enforcers, so would work as some Corp force.


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That alien.... Ugh. Looks like a design too silly for Space Precinct.

Hund is another Deadzone merc being redone for this game. His existing figure is actually pretty nice looking. I think Hund is one of Mantic's few instances of the miniature coming out better than the concept art.

Okay. I backed for the base game and the expansions. It'd better be worth it, because this was my last money, so I won't be able to get the Burning of Prospero or anything else until next year.

I'm a big fan of the deadZone Hund



Would be cool to have an alt sculpt for him.

Guessing it will be the same load out as deadzone

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
This must be the silliest alien they have designed so far.

I agree.. I feel like he came out of a 80s or 90s cartoon... This Kickstarter has been weird. They want to theme it kind of on the naughty side like The Others 7 Sins or even Deep Madness as we've seen them actively make a nod to.. yet the design and tone keeps looping back around to the 12 year old boy target audience.. The designs are all over the top and lack finer detail almost across the board. I really wish they would pick a lane :/

It should also be noted that Hund's stretch goal art on the campaign page is more in line with the actual miniature, and not that early Deadzone concept art.

 MLaw wrote:

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
This must be the silliest alien they have designed so far.

I agree.. I feel like he came out of a 80s or 90s cartoon... This Kickstarter has been weird. They want to theme it kind of on the naughty side like The Others 7 Sins or even Deep Madness as we've seen them actively make a nod to.. yet the design and tone keeps looping back around to the 12 year old boy target audience.. The designs are all over the top and lack finer detail almost across the board. I really wish they would pick a lane :/

He kind of looks like he has two inflatable waving men on his shoulders.

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
This must be the silliest alien they have designed so far.

emmmm, still the silliest, but the second silliest is a mere millimetre away.....

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