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Hello, recently I began interested in collecting and painting 40k miniatures.

yesterday I finished my first model, followed most of the steps I read here and other sources, here the steps I followed:

-super-glued the model
-washed and dryed the model before primer
-general spray white mate primer (can still be seen on the base)
-thinned the paints in water (excluding the metallic tones since they become a mess when thinned)
-did a couple layers from darker to brighter tones
-overall used art acrylic painting.

so far the mistakes I aknowledge I done so far where:

-modeling the head and the gun too close from each other, made it dificult to paint and even missed some spots.
-not doing a brown layer on all the model to avoid the white/gray missing spots from looking more obious as well as helping giving the teeth some deepth (saw this layer tip on some video)
-no idea at all at how to paint the eyes and the helmet sides

tools I used:
-general art acrlylic painting
- 0, 00, 000 brushes

Im considering running to the store for a lighter green to add another layer to make it more bright.
as well as doing some re-painting on the helmet as it seems like the black and white mixed in some parts and looks gray :/

overall the mini in distance looks acceptable, but on pics looks average-bad IMO, but Im a newb so I prefer to hear the feedback from you guys to see if I can still fix this guy and what else I can learn before doing my next model
Thanks in advance
Cheers!

Not bad at all. Are you going to wash it?

try practicing with drybrushing and highlighting. also washes will completley change the look of the minature with minimal effort.

i paint orks and i find a black basecoat works better for me

on the whole thats a good effort for primary painting you just need to wash then pick detail

Hmmm I think I'll have yet to read on this "wash" process

I'll look it up later tonight or would appreciate if someone shared a link

Cheers!

Good to see newbies coming to the hobby! welcome.

I think the model is good for first ever! i remember my first painting outing on space crusade figures.

you say genera paints from an art store? i'd have a look at getting some model paints. They are a little expensive considering the amounts you get but they are designed with miniatures in mind and will give a better finish, I think you'll be surprised how long they last. I have pots left from 3 Citadel series ago.

and i'm +1 for you looking into washes. it will make your model details pop.

look forward to you posting more.

also this is a hobby that rewards you for the ocd in you. the smaller the detail you pick out the better your finished result will be

Yes, get some model paints, you will really see a difference.

couple of washes, red eyes, and with a drilled gun barrel this model will look 100x better. Keep up the good work though as its a nice looking first attempt

Most of the stuff have already been said. but I you should try a black primer on your next one. I think that you'll fint that better too.

Other than that it looks great as a first one

One fun thing you can do is to keep it the way it is now and don't paint it anymore. And after about 100 minis you can take a look at it and see how far you've come!

one word for you.. w a s h

Or black quickshade. The tones you used are pretty light, so a black quickshade is still an option. It's such wonderfull stuff that some consider it cheating...

You may want to look into a decent matt varnish though, should you ever choose to use quickshade.

+1 for a dark wash.
Looks good for a first try, my first paintjobs were lucky to get more than one colour

Looking good you might want to try geting model paints and washes will make painting alot easer (not so much thining) and try geting a small brush will definatly help. Half to say though Looks better then my first guy. Keep up the good work and here are the links for paints and washes.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat470011a&rootCatGameStyle=

http://www.miniaturemarket.com/games_workshop

Wouyld suggest buying from minaturemarket because the have 25% off all games workshop prices. use gamesworkshop as source for pics of colors.


Best of luck

Kizmet wrote:also this is a hobby that rewards you for the ocd in you. the smaller the detail you pick out the better your finished result will be

Very well put


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Also - for the washes

Try washing the teeth devlin mud.
The skin thrakka green or asureman blue.

Just keep practicing.

Great job on your first model.

It looks good very reminiscent of late 90s GW stuff. Which is to say bright. Craft paints are ok, I understand the guy at From the Warp uses them pretty extensively. I use a variety of model paints and high quality acrylics like Golden Liquids.
Metallics are defiantly something you should get in a model specific line, yellows and reds generally a higher quality of paint is called for.
Craft greens are normally pretty good. Hauser Green especially is a good color for Orks.
Washes are the bees knees, learn em love them.

It looks really good for your first time, I would recommend going for a black undercoat though, & as previously stated, a wash can do wonders to pick out highlights in the model.

It was a good idea to prime white, because you worked up to the dark colors for coverage, but priming black is better (imo) because it's more forgiving for details. If you miss something, it won't jump out at you with a white spot, ya know? If you work this way, building up the bright colors, you work yourself all the way up to your highlighting at the end of the paint job.

Your 3 favorite washes should be:
Badab Black - black wash, excellent.
Devlan Mud - dark brown wash, makes stuff look dirty. He's an ork, it'll do wonders.
Gryphonne Sepia - good for washing browns and yellows (some reds), metallics included.

If you choose to test run a dip, do it on another miniature. That way, you can compare the results from dips and washes, using whichever strategy you prefer from then on.

Best of luck, and excellent first try.

Thank you all for your feedback

Im affraid hobby paintings are overpriced here ranging from 4-5 bucks per recipent while art acrilics are like 8 cents the regular colours and 1.50 the metallic ones
and initially I wanted to use grey primer but there was none to be found just light grey and white, so I opted for white.

readed a guide on creating my own washes already
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/261541.page

will look for the materials someday in the next weeks.
and yeah I would love a smaller brush than 000 but I've got yet to come across a good nylon brush, I don't want something that just falls appart while using it xD

still would appreciate any advice on painting ork eyes, a friend said I should use a needle, but IDK D:

once again I thank you all for your feedback it's very appreciated

Les' wash recipe is clutch.

If you would like I can extoll the virtues of certain miniature specific paints including pictures, if not bundles of painters use craft paint to produce stunning results.

Painting eyes with a needle is sage advise. I use a 18/0 round.

Ok got a smaller brush a 10/0

couldn't find washes nor the materials in the tutorial to make some.
but I worked out on the drybrushing and other techniques and attempted to paint the eyes I was uncertain if red or yellow so just went for yellow for now in case I want to paint em red later should be easier.

fixed a couple details and now I see that there's definitely alot more to fix now

I guess these are the regular issues of your first paint miniature

won't deny it's amusing but too much time consuming haha.

cheers!

Nice ork!
I have a link for some washes here: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat470013a&rootCatGameStyle=
There the esayist thing in the world to apply; just get a crap load of it on your brush and paint away! Use a green wash for the skin and a brown one for the clothes
Here an example of the awesomeness you can achieve with washes: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/237797.page

Nice looking. Although I would advise a black undercoat.

The benefit your ork would see out of a thraka green wash though.

I have to agree with whats been said before, but i'd like to expand on this

There are some pointers that are easy to remember, and sets up basic guidelines for improving and getting better.

Basically all parts of the model (ie skins, clothes, metal parts etc) will be based on roughly 3 colours (one middle colour for the base, one lighter for highlight, and one darker for shade).

The thing with priming black is that you basically get all that shade done, in one go! you can then put your base color, and add a little highlight (so basically 2 coats instead of 3). Some people go the other way around, and create the base, then hightlight, then add washes to create the depth. Both are of course valid options, and it really depends on what you feel and think works for you!

With starting painting you've got the basic thing down - get the colours in those areas you want the colour, ie no skin color overlapping into the pants/shirts/weapon etc. It might sound easily enough, but a couple of years ago i got to see the very first mini i painted myself, and let me tell you, it looked pretty much like a blind guy with parikinsons had gone into a rage

As for primers go, us old timers are used to having the choice of black and white. Nowadays there are alot of great spray paints with a wide range of colours you can use. If you want to use just a black or white primer, i usually think: am i painting light tone models, or darker ones? If its light, i spray white, if its dark (like orks) i go with black. After all, why would i spray a model white if the majority of the model is going to be black and vice versa?

Creating an entire large ork army with 1 spray session, one wash shade session then picking out details goes fast and just by doing those few steps will have you field your very first fully-painted ork units before you know it.

You can then go back as you learn to fill in more details, and once you're familiar enough with it, go over them with a new layer of highlightiing. Also, one model that you feel "ok" with upon completion will always look different after a while, as your skill progresses, so it pays to go over your older models and touching them up a bit

I think you've done a terrific job for first time.

Fearless feedback: get the washes from GW or follow a recipe online and be amazed at the results--instant shading! Or easily show you what areas to highlight.

Also, I've read and learned on my own now, that dry brushing is a technique best left for certain areas of a model, otherwise it leaves a powdery appearance that can look bad. I dry brush feathers, hair, leaves, or any other organic-looking area. Otherwise using lined highlights or blending provides a much better look in the long run.

Be experimental with the tricks and concepts you'll find online. Try out various techniques and invest in "Simple Green"-like fluids to strip the models you find you are unhappy with.

Taking pictures in high-lighting environments, with the light overhead or at a bit of angle can show you where you need to highlight. Highlighting the underside of something makes little visual sense when it's facing away from the light, right?

Don't get discouraged, and for orks, try to assembly-line paint to speed things up and practice the same techniques in a repetitive fashion.

Spend lots more time on your centerpiece models: like the Warboss, Big Mek, or Nobz. Spend less time on the Boyz that will be flying off the table :p

Have fun, and great job!

Let's see the next 1-5 models and see where you've improved