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If this has been posted elsewhere, a million pardons.

So, my store got WD 382 today, here's a rundown of the non-Dreadfleet releases:

- Citadel cleanup kit: Contains a flash brush with right rigid bristles for removing flash from resin and a mouldline scraping tool, ideal for metal, resin and plastic. €10,50

- Citadel Emery boards: Pack contains three emery boards that are great for smoothing resin surfaces. Contains two fine-grade and one super-duper-extra-fine-grade board. €4,55

- Citadel liquid green stuff: paint bottle of liquid green stuff. Water soluble, designed for (teehee) gapfilling and removing air bubbles. €2,95

- Revamped Citadel tool kit: Contains all previous tools along with the new clean up kit.

I have to admit it does not help the 'Finecast problems' perception problem that they're releasing a bunch of tools to deal with the problems.

They are inadvertently admitting that there are problems?

And with the typical outlandish markup. I get emery boards for $.99 for about a dozen. My seem scraper was $3.00 and liquid gap filler is at least half that cost. Glad to see the insanity continues.

November Releases:

Citadel Bubble Wrap Return Kit. Designed to protect your Finecast model when you mail it in for exchange. 1.95

Liquid greenstuff sounds interesting.

AgeOfEgos wrote:November Releases:

Citadel Bubble Wrap Return Kit. Designed to protect your Finecast model when you mail it in for exchange. 1.95

Liquid greenstuff sounds interesting.

The Liquid Greenstuff does sound interesting.

The mouldline scraping tool sounds interesting as well, but only because right now I use a sculpting tool to do it without damaging the detail...

BrookM wrote:

- Citadel cleanup kit: Contains a flash brush with right rigid bristles for removing flash from resin and a mouldline scraping tool, ideal for metal, resin and plastic. €10,50

Am I the only one that uses the back of my exacto to clean up mold lines? It gets rid of them on plastic (smoothly!) and on metal (usually takes a couple passes)...

*edit* any word on the back page? Necrons?

Next WD

Solar protector factor X good for your minis

Its good they see the problem and that they are trying to fix it... I hope they axe it to death and go metal or plastic again.

I hope they ax it and go all plastic already, lol

BrookM wrote:They are inadvertently admitting that there are problems?

haha and then asking you to buy stuff to fix their feth ups!

Scottywan82 wrote:I hope they ax it and go all plastic already, lol

My thoughts on the matter also. I was hoping this was the route they would take when the rumours they were changing from metal started circulating. Instead we got Finecast

I like the idea of liquid greenstuff. Always wanted to to find some kind of liquidy gap filler for all kinds of models, especially if it works good with flat areas where you don't want to see a seam or a crappy greenstuffing job

Liquid greenstuff sounds interesting.

Vallejo already makes a liquid gap filler in a tube for plastic models. It's handy stuff. GW is finally catching up.



A lot of experienced modelers use Squadron putty for gap filling, it's much cheaper and easier than Kneadatite Green Stuff which is actually a sculpting medium though it obviously works for filling gaps too. Anyone who's built models for the sake of doing so other than just Warhammer items is probably already familiar with such things.



As for the comments on GW's pricing on Emery boards, etc. as always these 3rd party tool items are sold at GW as a convenience and they are marked up substantially. If it's convenient to buy them elsewhere you can definitely do better, but one-stop shopping clearly works for some people given the amount of such items GW sells. In fact, Green Stuff is one of their most marked up items. Polymeric Systems 36" Kneadatite ribbons sell for about $12-$15. GW cuts them up into tiny bits just a few inches long and sells them for $10 each. The lesson is not to buy 3rd party hobby supplies at GW if you have a convenient way to buy them elsewhere. The War Store is one good source accessible without leaving home. For $12.99 you can buy enough Green Stuff to last most hobbyists a few years.

See this link http://www.thewarstore.com/product18832.html

Liquid greenstuff got me interested too, looking forward to seeing that one.

Also, isn't this VERY early for the current WD to come out, even to shops? I thought there was an even longer waiting period this time around due to Games Day or something? Wasn't expecting to see anything from it until the last weekend of September at the earliest really... Not that I'm complaining.

Squadron Putty is good, but it dries out like nobody's business and has toxic fumes.

Wonder if it is actually liquid greenstuff
or just liquid stuff they have made green

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Wonder if it is actually liquid greenstuff or just liquid stuff they have made green

It's got to be the latter. See my post a little bit above about hobby fillers. I don't know how they can even call it "Green Stuff", that name is a marketing name used by Polymeric Systems for their 2-part sculpting medium which they also named Kneadatite.

http://www.polymericsystems.com/epoxies-adhesives/epoxy-putty-tapes/kneadatite-blue-yellow.htm

Kneadatite Blue/Yellow ("Green Stuff") is a two-part epoxy/polyamide sealant/adhesive for interior and exterior maintenance and repair. It has excellent adhesion to stone, ceramic, metal, wood and many plastics, including vinyl.

Kneadatite ® Blue/Yellow ® Epoxy Putty Tape and BarsNicknamed "Green" by sculptors and modelers, Blue/Yellow is well-known for its long worklife, non-grainy texture and ability to hold fine detail. Cured models withstand up to 4 vulcanizations. Blue/Yellow is not intended for structural applications.

Blue/Yellow is available in 2 forms: as a roll of side-by-side epoxy putty tape and as 2 round bars in a reusable plastic tube

ib4 vallejo plastic putty dyed green

Yeah, it's hilarious (hilariously sad) how they're trying to sell us tools to fix their miscasts.

Liquid green-stuff sounds interesting... I'll have to check that out. As for the tools- uh, I' wouldn't buy GW tools/brushes if my life depended on it (what a mark up racket that is!).

BrassScorpion wrote:
Vallejo already makes a liquid gap filler in a tube for plastic models. It's handy stuff. GW is finally catching up.

Truth be told, I use Vallejo's white putty and I regretted buying it. It doesn't stick to a surface, making it hard to properly sand gaps, instead comes out in pieces. I'll wait for a review of GW's stuff, but if it works better than Vallejo's stuff, I'd buy it.

But anyway, it's alarming that GW have a lot of stuff for repairing finecast. I want to get the finecast Incubi, but since I'm ordering from an online retailer and not directly from GW, I don't know how it would work regarding replacements.

So let me get this right...

October WD will be promoting a product that is already sold out and some tools to make a rubbish modelling material less rubbish?

making it hard to properly sand gaps, instead comes out in pieces.

Not the liquid stuff in a tube like their paint tube (unless it's gone bad from age maybe?). It's a viscous liquid that fills small gaps nicely and it does not come out "in pieces". For larger gaps I'd stick with the Squadron Putty gap filler or Green Stuff.

Thanks for mentioning the Vallejo Plastic putty, that why i scrolled all the way down here

The current version of Vallejo's Plastic Filler in a tube (like their paint tubes) is already a greenish-blue color, so GW may be just re-labeling it and not doing anything else to it at all.

This has to be a joke.... Right?

A well played joke.

Right???

Destrado wrote:
Truth be told, I use Vallejo's white putty and I regretted buying it. It doesn't stick to a surface, making it hard to properly sand gaps, instead comes out in pieces.

Give it another chance. Learn how it behaves. It's tricky and it doesn't work for everything, but it's still very useful once you figure it out. It works great for filling gaps in plasticard scratch-builds, for example. It doesn't sand well, but it cuts magnificently, kinda like green stuff.

I already have a jar of Mr. Dissolved Putty from Japan, I don't need any GW product to usurp that. I heartily recommend it to anyone else, too. Quite thin, dries very hard and takes sanding extremely well. The only downside is that the solvent will evaporate from it with time, so the putty will turn thicker with age and will eventually go bad from constant opening. Still, the price is affordable and the jar quite large, so you should be able to putty many a seam before it goes off.

BrookM wrote:If this has been posted elsewhere, a million pardons.

So, my store got WD 382 today, here's a rundown of the non-Dreadfleet releases:

- Citadel cleanup kit: Contains a flash brush with right rigid bristles for removing flash from resin and a mouldline scraping tool, ideal for metal, resin and plastic. €10,50

- Citadel Emery boards: Pack contains three emery boards that are great for smoothing resin surfaces. Contains two fine-grade and one super-duper-extra-fine-grade board. €4,55

- Citadel liquid green stuff: paint bottle of liquid green stuff. Water soluble, designed for (teehee) gapfilling and removing air bubbles. €2,95

- Revamped Citadel tool kit: Contains all previous tools along with the new clean up kit.

GW bigwigs: Right we're losing more customers and need to up profits still

Accountants: Well, a price rise will go a long way to helping...

GW bigwigs: Yeah great idea but we want to REALLY exploit them I know, we'll make a load of miniatures that are imperfect in some way then get people to buy the stuff to fix those imperfections and some of it will be consumables!

This, shall not end well :(. And also doesn't humbrol or similar do liquid filler type stuff in general model shops? At least putty in a tube type stuff from some model poly cement supplier irrc...

I would be sort of interested in the liquid green stuff to play with.

But yeah - it looks pretty darn bad when you have to release a special toolkit to fix "The finest models in the whole world."