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http://privateerpress.com/community/privateer-insider/insider-12-2-2011

The latest double epic warcaster to be previewed.

Because jsut in case his shoulder pads weren't big enough yet...

I wonder if it is possible to hold a lance that way...

Another cavalry warcaster, and this one's a melee badass. I am pleased by this turn of events. Now, to acquire clean pants...

I may start collecting warmachine only because of this badass character and because GW is no longer played in my state.

Was just about to post this too...

I'm trying to work out if the Morning Star is his too, can't quite tell from the angle.

The weapons look odd (giant flail w/ small bit of chain, and he's probably carrying a 70lb spear like it weighs nothing), but it's one of the cooler bits of WM illustration I've seen recently. I'm pretty pleased with this new guy (pretty sure it's the same guy who did the new IKRPG cover)

Space Crusader wrote:I wonder if it is possible to hold a lance that way...

Yes. Did you mean 'I wonder if it is possible to hold a lance [and actually hit somebody with it] that way', if so the answer's probably no. He appears to be carrying it in the overhand style used by the Normans (though his arm is lowered in this picture). It looks a bit heavy but that may be artistic licence as it is smaller than the standard Uhlan lance.

Grimtuff wrote:I'm trying to work out if the Morning Star is his too, can't quite tell from the angle.

It's in his hand, I'm not use if he actually owns it, he could have borrowed it from a friend.

spiralingcadaver wrote:The weapons look odd (giant flail w/ small bit of chain, and he's probably carrying a 70lb spear like it weighs nothing), but it's one of the cooler bits of WM illustration I've seen recently. I'm pretty pleased with this new guy (pretty sure it's the same guy who did the new IKRPG cover)

If he can handle what has to be 500 lb of armor the spear is nothing. Hell, the shoulder pads weigh 100 lb each.

And people still deny that Privateer Press isn't taking cues from World of Warcraft? Just LOOK at those shoulderpads!

Didn't they get a ton of internet-fire from the Retribution Dawnguard Destors and their silly WoWpads?

nah, the shoulder pads are like 5lbs, he just has freakishly deformed shoulders

but in all seriousness, i'm looking forward to more interesting fluff about him, and the baba yaga..i mean the old witch by association

Is "double epic" the actual correct term for the third iteration of a caster?

If so, I disapprove but I really like this pic! I must be full-on indoctrinated into the PP look now, I didn't even notice the large shoulderpads the first time I saw this pic (which, shame on you Dakka, was from the local warmahordes email group, rather than a post here!)

They're just more "epic" casters. They're not calling them anything extra like "double epic."

frozenwastes wrote:They're just more "epic" casters. They're not calling them anything extra like "double epic."

I thought the term was "Legendary"

It's just that there has to be a way to distinguish them, if there's already an "epic" version. "Legendary" would make sense, but I haven't seen it yet... is that the official term?

Privateer Press people have said on their forums that they're still just 'epic' casters.

Also, you can see his thumb sticking up a bit, so he's underhanding the spear. Even if he wasn't he's got magic/steam powered armor on, so he can hold it any way he wants.

The armor worn by Warcasters is magic and enhances their strength IIRC, so yeah he probably wields that lance like it's nothing.

This going to be associated with a book release or just something released for the hell of it?

CT GAMER wrote:

frozenwastes wrote:They're just more "epic" casters. They're not calling them anything extra like "double epic."

I thought the term was "Legendary"

Was confirmed to not be an official term in this thread: http://privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?86241-New-Info-about-New-Epics-in-NQ

I'm guessing he's so heavy in all that armour that he doesn't need hand free to stay on his horse?

I just want an epic Xerxis with elite cadre: cataphract Cetrati. Is that so much to ask for?

H.B.M.C. wrote:I'm guessing he's so heavy in all that armour that he doesn't need hand free to stay on his horse?

You usually don't need your hands to stay on a horse anyhow, with most of that work being done between correct posture, strong thighs, and a good set of stirrups. All you're doing with your hands is using them to guide the animal, which can be done with your knees instead. That requires a hell of a lot of training for the both of you, but it's still theoretically doable.


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Kurgash wrote:I just want an epic Xerxis with elite cadre: cataphract Cetrati. Is that so much to ask for?

Domination just came out. You're going to be waiting at least another six months or so before we start getting whispers of the next Hordes release.

This and the other eeCasters are for next years book releases, which should be a Warmachine one and a Hordes one like they had this year. I'm really curious to see what kind of freaky rules they get as they're said to have more board presence than current casters. eeAsphxyious for example is supposed to be more than one model. Exactly what that entails I don't know.

Apparently the double E warlock would be Thagrosh's main lady Lylyth. Her being a double E...I could enjoy that.

I bet after seeing the "enhancements" Vayle got for going epic.

Laughing Man wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:I'm guessing he's so heavy in all that armour that he doesn't need hand free to stay on his horse?

You usually don't need your hands to stay on a horse anyhow, with most of that work being done between correct posture, strong thighs, and a good set of stirrups. All you're doing with your hands is using them to guide the animal, which can be done with your knees instead. That requires a hell of a lot of training for the both of you, but it's still theoretically doable.

Not theorectically doable, more like essential basic training for kontoi, spear/lance and shield, and horse archery.

It's my understanding that 1, 2, and 3 are what PP uses to distinguish different Epics in shorthand. So Vlad1 is from Prime, Vlad2 is his first Epic and Vlad3 is this beast. They've always made it clear that an Epic character can go Epic again, this is just the first round of them. Warmachine and Hordes are both getting another book in 2012 with these new casters in them, and we know of three for WM and one for Hordes so far.

Absolutionis wrote:And people still deny that Privateer Press isn't taking cues from World of Warcraft? Just LOOK at those shoulderpads!

Didn't they get a ton of internet-fire from the Retribution Dawnguard Destors and their silly WoWpads?

Vlad has had the market cornered on big shoulder pads since Prime Mk I originally came out. He's one of the first models released for WM and his shoulder pads have always been that way. It's a PP design thing, they like big shoulder pads.

I think the original big shoulder Vlad was released in 2003 and World of Warcraft in 2004.

I am really glad that finally Vlad is on a horse but I really can't help but fealing skorne whenever I see this picture.

Space Crusader wrote:I wonder if it is possible to hold a lance that way...

Hold? Probably.

Hold effectively? Not a chance.

Epic shoulderpads.

I feel that the horse is missing a unicorn horn and a rainbow coming out of it's butt.