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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/24 07:51:55
Subject: 2400 Dwarfs "Suck on these Potatos!" (2nd Revised Tournament list)
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Armored Iron Breaker
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Lords:
Runelord, shield, Master Rune of Balance, Rune of Resistance, Rune of Preservation, Rune of the Furnace-238
Heroes:
Thane, BSB, shield Strollaz's Rune, Ancestor Rune-158
Thane, Master Rune of Challenge, Rune of Brotherhood, Rune of the Furnace-115
Core:
41 Longbeard Rangers, Full Command, Rune of Determanation, Ancestor Rune, GW's-629
30 Warriors, Full command, Shields-286
Special:
29 Hammerers, Full Command, Master Rune of Grungni-428
Cannon, Rune of Forging, Rune of Burning-130
Grudge Thrower, Rune of Accuracy, Rune of Penetrating, Rune of Burning, Engineer-150
Grudge Thrower, Rune of Accuracy, Rune of Fortune, Engineer-145
Rare:
Organ gun-120
I am planning on playing very aggressively with this list (I'm going to try the "Oblique order" tactic) and what I mean by that is The declined or refused flank, it is a tactic whereby an attacking army focuses its forces to attack a single enemy flank. My Longbeard rangers will scout on the enemies weakest flank with my Hammerers closely supporting them on the front line (They will be more benefical because of the Strollaz's rune attached to the BSB which will be plased in the Hammerers block. The shield warriors will then be 6" inches behind the hammerers right flank to support them if needed. Then the two grudge throwers will be on the right most part of the flank and hopefully there will be a hill or something to obscured LoS from them while still being able to supply firing support for the warriors and hammerers. While the Organ will (agian, hopefully) be deployed in a spot where it can cover all flanks (including the longbeards right flank). The cannon will just WM or Monster Snipe ;D
Any tips would be cool.
Cheers
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Lots
Dwarfs: Lots
"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 16:47:56
Subject: 2400 Dwarfs "Suck on these Potatos!" (2nd Revised Tournament list)
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Mighty Gouge-Horn
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Interesting list. What concerns me is the few runic weapons on your characters. On the brotherhood thane atleast i would swap the RoBrurning for RoFire.
Also those 30 shield warriors I am not fond of, I would prefer two small or one large unit of Quarrellers with the rest of the points (if you have some left) going into more hammerers.
Only +3dd and a +2 to dispel might not be enough, I would try to fit in atleast one spelleater rune or two RoSpellbreaking.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 23:06:06
Subject: 2400 Dwarfs "Suck on these Potatos!" (2nd Revised Tournament list)
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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Drop the warriors. As per the FAQ, rangers don't count for the warrior to long beard ration.
Swap warriors for miners. Now you've got 4 deployments.
Hammerers, who being stubborn aren't to worried about their flanks, warmachines, then characters.
Then you flank scout rangers, and support with miners.
Maybe swap organ gun for gyro, the speed is really helpful in the sneaky dwarf build.
-Matt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/27 23:38:12
Subject: 2400 Dwarfs "Suck on these Potatos!" (2nd Revised Tournament list)
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Fanatic with Madcap Mushrooms
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First thing I thought of when I read the title was this
http://youtu.be/qrQVFZx7XX4
But honestly I would swap the organ gun for a gyro just due to its range. Then I second the motion for miners
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/28 00:20:53
Subject: Re:2400 Dwarfs "Suck on these Potatos!" (2nd Revised Tournament list)
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Armored Iron Breaker
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I would drop the warriors, but at least 25% of my army as to be core (and 26% is the current total) and if I drop the warriors, I'll end up with something like 17% core
and I cant take out the warriors because I have a unit of longbeards, I need at least one unit of warriors to fit in the longsbeards unless I have a lord (doesn't matter if their rangers or not, their still longbeards.) Automatically Appended Next Post: Grix wrote: What concerns me is the few runic weapons on your characters. On the brotherhood thane atleast i would swap the RoBrurning for RoFire.
Yea, sticking runic weapons on heroes/lords is kinda, umm, ify, I need them to last long, and the second thane is only for the challenge rune. The other is my BSB, which needs to live till about turn 5. Weapon runes are a waste of points if you ask me
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Lots
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/28 01:20:34
Subject: Re:2400 Dwarfs "Suck on these Potatos!" (2nd Revised Tournament list)
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I thought the BSB couldn't carry a shield or any runic items if he has a runic standard...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/28 03:02:19
Subject: Re:2400 Dwarfs "Suck on these Potatos!" (2nd Revised Tournament list)
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Armored Iron Breaker
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oops, didn't mean to give the BSB a shield ;D
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Dwarfs: Lots
"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/28 04:46:53
Subject: Re:2400 Dwarfs "Suck on these Potatos!" (2nd Revised Tournament list)
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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ParatrooperSimon wrote:I would drop the warriors, but at least 25% of my army as to be core (and 26% is the current total) and if I drop the warriors, I'll end up with something like 17% core
and I cant take out the warriors because I have a unit of longbeards, I need at least one unit of warriors to fit in the longsbeards unless I have a lord (doesn't matter if their rangers or not, their still longbeards.)
1) You have 629 points of Core Rangers. Without the Warriors, you have 26.2% as core.
2) Since you didn't check the FAQ, here's the quote for you:
Q. If a unit of Warriors or Longbeards is upgraded to Rangers, does
the unit continue to count as part of the ratio which restricts players to
not having more units of Longbeards than they have Warriors?
(p33)
A. No.
So long beard rangers do not count towards the ratio. You have ZERO warriors in your list (once made better by dropping warriors), and ZERO units of long beards that count for the long beard to warrior ratio.
Replace warriors with 21 miners, full command, and steam drill. Saves you 5 points.
-Matt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/28 09:17:43
Subject: Re:2400 Dwarfs "Suck on these Potatos!" (2nd Revised Tournament list)
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Armored Iron Breaker
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O lol thanks Matt, I wasent trying to be a jerk off ;D. I just wasent sure.
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Lots
Dwarfs: Lots
"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat."
Check out my blog at: averydwarfishblog.blogspot.com |
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