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Sooo... a friend sent this to me after seeing an advertisement for the new show on Nat geo: doomsday preppers (yea get your tin foil out!) but honestly... how ing awesome is this wood-powered car??? I'm not into the prepping thing... but these people are true ORKS!

http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/national-geographic-channel/shows/doomsday-preppers/ngc-wood-powered-car/

Is this that wood-gas thing?

DeadlySquirrel wrote:Is this that wood-gas thing?

pretty much...

I've been doing some research and the russians did it during WWII as backup for when they needed it and during high oirl prices...

Yeah, we were gonna do it to the family car. Too much work, so now it's bio-diesel instead.

So it's a Leman Russ in car form?

YES! Another factor pointing to the fact Warhammer 40k is the correct over the top SCI-FI High fantasy prediction of the future!

On the video clip itself.
1. the first part is about a (group of) man (men and women) who believes that the great depression is looming and it now means doomsday so he needs to shop dry foods and store it as he doesn't even know when it will over? (or how will America gets reshaped?) ... or will the 'old day cowboys' lifestyles return? ok colonists live much more effective than what we are today.
he lived alot like that and he taught his lil daughter to do so (to mill the grain using the pre-industrial methods)
2. still in the first part. I don't use THAT much toilet paper (Thais call it Tissue paper) I only use less than 30 sheets per day.
3. AT FIRST I believe that 'wood powered car' means steam powered ones. but 'ey! what kinda machine that he can convert wood into petrol? or does he make LPG/CNG out of a wood (the vehicle still uses combustion engine) ? .... the machine however. is TOOOO bulky. and very unusual combustion-powered engines.

Yea Ive known about that trick for awhile, people used to make cars that worked on wood like 100 years ago. Its a very fidgety thing to get tuned in, but once you get a combustion engine to fire and run on it, that works rather well. Its a bit underpowered though, but hey, woods free


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AT FIRST I believe that 'wood powered car' means steam powered ones. but 'ey! what kinda machine that he can convert wood into petrol? or does he make LPG/CNG out of a wood (the vehicle still uses combustion engine

If I remember right the wood releases hydrogen, which can be used as a fuel source. But you cant burn the wood like you do in a normal fire, its more like baking wood with out direct flame.

That's self-sufficiency on a grand scale. You need a lot of space, though.

Im curious what those type of people will do with $7k worth of stockpile food when it goes bad. People do realize that just because its in a can, doesnt mean it lasts forever.

KingCracker wrote:Im curious what those type of people will do with $7k worth of stockpile food when it goes bad. People do realize that just because its in a can, doesnt mean it lasts forever.

I'm far more concerned that I can now build that Leman Russ I needed just encase of your end of the world scenario of choice. While you peasants fight over the remaining dead dinosaurs I will being driving over your pathetic inferior oil powered cars in my Tank.....that runs on TREES!

Come at me zombies.

Well you might want to look into making the suspension better on it, IE something a real tank uses. Unless you like bottoming out on anything bigger then a stick

KingCracker wrote:Well you might want to look into making the suspension better on it, IE something a real tank uses. Unless you like bottoming out on anything bigger then a stick

I would have to true, I would just put some massive treads on it as well. I will also have a large main gun, although I will only rarely use it. I will stick to having 1-2 of my friends on the side-sponsens and using the front mounted heavy bolter and lascannon.

I would use the Battle cannon to level structures to block the zombies path.

KingCracker wrote:Im curious what those type of people will do with $7k worth of stockpile food when it goes bad. People do realize that just because its in a can, doesnt mean it lasts forever.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16852830

Not forever, but 64 years is still a decent amount of time, especially if you factor in what age you were when you bought it and what age you're likely to die at.

Lard isn't food, it just happens to be edible.

I disagree, lard can be, and has been, a source of food for generally poorer people for decades. You can make bread with it, spread it on bread or toast if it's wet-rendered lard, or you can use it dry rendered as dripping, which can also be consumed (and which my grandfather on my mother's side is quite the fan of) as food.

Kilkrazy wrote:That's self-sufficiency on a grand scale. You need a lot of space, though.

I imagine the average person that would find this interesting also wouldn't be likely to live in a city, unless they're Mormon.

KingCracker wrote:Yea Ive known about that trick for awhile, people used to make cars that worked on wood like 100 years ago. Its a very fidgety thing to get tuned in, but once you get a combustion engine to fire and run on it, that works rather well. Its a bit underpowered though, but hey, woods free


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AT FIRST I believe that 'wood powered car' means steam powered ones. but 'ey! what kinda machine that he can convert wood into petrol? or does he make LPG/CNG out of a wood (the vehicle still uses combustion engine

If I remember right the wood releases hydrogen, which can be used as a fuel source. But you cant burn the wood like you do in a normal fire, its more like baking wood with out direct flame.

baking wood without direct flame. i can hardly imagine how can this becomes possible?? does it means that you still needs flame but you must place a wood on any kind of container that transfer heats from the flame without the direct contact with it. or do they bake the wood with other heat sources?
if you still need fire to bake a wood (and not letting the flame lick that piece of wood) then it is really a twisted form of steam powering system.

mew!

Presumably it is made by a similar process to making charcoal.

The wood is heated in the absence of oxygen, so it cannot burn.




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By the way, it may be interesting to know that here in the UK we have a man called Jeremy Clarkson, who has car powered wood.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasifier#Transport_fuel

^ it is said that this technology exists in the days of steampunk technology and this technology had also been used in the second world war (Oil rations, so the footage 'my car runs on wood' is not just a joke but it's real ?) too bad when the new crude oil deposits had been found, and the advent of 'cracking' technology (advanced petrochemistry tech that made gasoline and diesel oil out of the (refined) bunker fuel oils) however. had render this technology unneccessary. (and forgotten. maybe even now very few awares that wood and solid biomass can actually power combustion engines and not just a fuel for steamers). ok for now the 'vehicle gasifiers' are all homemade things (it looks ORKISH to us).

Does the wood-powered car needs a very long 'warm ups'? the gasification reaction is needed to be done before the gasifier-mountd vehicle becomes fully functional. and i bet it has a noticible time intervals. while the modern truck diesels and gasoline engines. the vehicle becomes active almost instantly after the engine is started.

Kilkrazy wrote:Presumably it is made by a similar process to making charcoal.

The wood is heated in the absence of oxygen, so it cannot burn.




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By the way, it may be interesting to know that here in the UK we have a man called Jeremy Clarkson, who has car powered wood.

Car powered wood?

Intentional? I hope so, it has me giggling a bit.

Lone Cat wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasifier#Transport_fuel

^ it is said that this technology exists in the days of steampunk technology and this technology had also been used in the second world war (Oil rations, so the footage 'my car runs on wood' is not just a joke but it's real ?) too bad when the new crude oil deposits had been found, and the advent of 'cracking' technology (advanced petrochemistry tech that made gasoline and diesel oil out of the (refined) bunker fuel oils) however. had render this technology unneccessary. (and forgotten. maybe even now very few awares that wood and solid biomass can actually power combustion engines and not just a fuel for steamers). ok for now the 'vehicle gasifiers' are all homemade things (it looks ORKISH to us).

Does the wood-powered car needs a very long 'warm ups'? the gasification reaction is needed to be done before the gasifier-mountd vehicle becomes fully functional. and i bet it has a noticible time intervals. while the modern truck diesels and gasoline engines. the vehicle becomes active almost instantly after the engine is started.

Pretty much what KK said, its rather similar to making charcoal. Ill try to explain it for ya. Basically you need 2 big ass metal drums, one smaller then the other, so that if you put the smaller drum inside the larger drum, you still have room enough for wood and fire in the larger drum, leaving the smaller drum empty of wood. Then you stick you logs inside the SMALLER drum, and seal it up air tight. You then set the wood on the out of the smaller drum on fire like a normal wood fire. The heat from this fire, will transmit into the smaller drum and therefore start to burn up the wood on the inside without a flame, so in a way, it melts the wood.

For this to work, youll need to plumb (think putting water piping in there) the barrel on the inside so the Hydrogen (again I think thats the gas, almost certain of it) has some where to go IE into the combustion engine. Its a bit more technical then that, and like I said before, it can be a real bastard to get to work at first, but once you get the gas/air mixture right it does work.


As far as how long it takes to get a vehicle/engine working this way, Id say how ever long it takes the fire to burn down the logs and start producing gas. The problem is, Hydrogen burns invisible, you wont see its flame, so there are risks of using this method for obvious reasons.