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I was reading through my OnG book yesterday and noticed that there doesn't seem to be any rule explaining how shooting works with the howdah crew on the arachnarok. I know there are rules that govern how shooting works at the skinks on a stegadon, but these seem to be lacking for the spider, even after the FAQ as far as I can tell. So my big question is does the spider ever take a monster reaction test if the goblins can't be targeted? Even in the case of a shaman rider, it says randomize the shots, 1-4 hitting the spider 5-6 hitting the shaman. If the shaman is slain, the crew would still be in control of the spider, or would this be a case of a "two rider" monster. There are rules for that in the BRB, but I'm not clear as to whether or not this is a case.

How do you guys play this out?

Arachnarok equals spider plus gobbos.

Remove the Shaman and you still leave other gobbos remaining who retain control of the spider. The inherent riders are one reason this is one of the better monsters.

The newer howdah monsters, warsphinx and araknarok, are immune to crew death.

You ought to (also) lose a gobbo for every wound the spider takes. That would be fair and make sense. But you dont.

The big spider is a monster.
If a shaman rides it, it becomes a monstrous mount.
If a monstrous mount loses it's rider, it takes monster reaction.
I don't see bonus attacks for the 'goblin' part of the monster makes it immune to the test.


-Matt

The arachnarok cant lose it´s crew because you cant target it - no LPs either.
Since you dont lose the crew if you put a shammy on the spider you wont lose control if the shammy dies - he rides on the spider but it still has the crew.
Other monsters come without crew so if the riders die you have to roll for the monster reaction. Seems a bit cheesy but well, the O&G books says so.
It´s not 100% clear imo but since the goblins are the crew and you wont lose the "crew" once a shammy is riding the spider you cant lose the crew.
Would be nice to get a FAQ for the arachanrok and the warsphinx.

For the point's that beast costs i'm fine letting it not test.

Clear enough, thanks. I suppose I was just confused as I went straight from playing a lizardmen army to building a goblin army. Kept trying to transpose the howdah rules. True case of a different beast all together.

Gorbad wrote:The arachnarok cant lose it´s crew because you cant target it - no LPs either.
Since you dont lose the crew if you put a shammy on the spider you wont lose control if the shammy dies - he rides on the spider but it still has the crew.
Other monsters come without crew so if the riders die you have to roll for the monster reaction. Seems a bit cheesy but well, the O&G books says so.
It´s not 100% clear imo but since the goblins are the crew and you wont lose the "crew" once a shammy is riding the spider you cant lose the crew.
Would be nice to get a FAQ for the arachanrok and the warsphinx.

So you want a FAQ for the FAQ?

OnG FAQ v1.1
Q: Does killing a Goblin Great Shaman riding an Arachnarok
Spider mean that the Arachnarok Spider must take a Monster
Reaction test? (p51)
A: No, as it still has the Forest Goblin crew left to control it.

Thanks for the link no it´s even FAQ´ed