BlackMath wrote:
I haven't looked at many DE lists. This is actually what my buddy and I came up with. Seems mean to me.
HQ: Lelith
Youch...she used to be amazing. Now she's not. Go with haemys for the wych squads instead. This will give them
FNP making them much more survivable.
BlackMath wrote:
3 x 10 wyches (whips and nets) w/ hekatrix (w/ agonizer), all with haywire grenades and raiders with flicker field
Drop one model per wych, then swap the shardnet and impaler for razorflails. You want them to actually be able to survive a combat not just tarpit. Personally I would drop 2 squads for 5 man squads of kabalite warriors. Each squad has a blaster and is in a venom with the extra
SC. 3 troops is low in a 1500 point game let alone a 2K list.
BlackMath wrote:
1 x 8 Bloodbrides (hydraguantlets) with siren all with haywire grenades and raider with flicker field (HQ will be in this group)
These guys can get you some more points for the troops if you need them. Otherwise a small contingent of Incubi will do better
IMO since they have
PW.
BlackMath wrote:
2 x 3 Kabalite Trueborns w/ 2Dark Lances, in Venoms with Splinter Cannon
Different than the blasterborn that gets posted all the time. Assuming your friend knows to put the kabalites in terrain and use the venoms as gunships this will work fine.
BlackMath wrote:
3 x Ravager
Add
FF and your good here.
BlackMath wrote:
1 x 5 Reavers w a Heat Ray
Ugh...no. EIther 3 Reavers with a Heat Lance or blaster or 5 Scourges with 2 of the afformentioned special weapons. You are paying for the bodies so why not get the weapon?
BlackMath wrote:
2 x 5 Kabalite warriors with shredder on one (to walk on for objective taking).
Uh...here are some of those warriors that I was talking about. Just swap the shredder for a blaster (shredders aren't that good.) And get them a transport. Never try to footslog small squads of warriors. Personally I don't footslog at all with
DE.
BlackMath wrote:
Pretty straight forward. Maximize Dark Lances. Wyches for CC. Lots of troops for objective taking.
EDIT: Took advice and trimmed Trueborns. Added Reavers.
Actually you were light on Dark Lances. The minimum is 1
DL for every 100 points. That again is the MINIMUM in the army. Wyches are ok at
CC but maximise their potential. A squad of wyches and a squad of Incubi is all a decent
DE list really needs. 5 troops is light, especially when 2 of them a) footslog and b) are in reserve. You really need 6 in transports from the get go.
Trueborn go 3 ways 1) 3 dudes w/ 3 blaster 2) 4 dudes w/ 4 blasters 3) 3 dudes w/ 2
DL. You never need more than this with
AT trueborn.
If you look at reavers and then scourges you will notice they are the same cost. Then notice it takes 6 reavers to get 2 special weapons while scourges need only 5. If it's getting there then consider that it will take both of us (using blasters) to get into range. You turbo turn one then move and shoot turn 2. (Assuming a 12" deployment zone per person this isn't unreasonable at all. Now assume the same thing with scourges. 12" in, 12" move turn one and turn 2 gets you 36" across the board with an 18" range gun. Why pay more for less?
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh never trust army buildier. It's right this time but you really need to have a codex with you when building the lists and just use army builder as a convienence for presentation.
However, look at it this way: Don't maximize your "Dark" lances, but your "lance" weapons. That is, the blasters Trueborn can have, being Assault 1, not Heavy 1 (Dark Lances).