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Just saw the info on preorder at Maelstrom with no pics and googled them up. Still no pics of actual models, but 84 figures sounds like decent offer for £14.85.
http://wargamesfactory.com/announcements/wargame-factorys-first-15mm-set

Update. Found the sprue on the interwebs. Nevermind - they are crap. Strange poses, only two mortars, can't see any MGs.

http://wargamesfactory.lefora.com/composition/attachment/a350d557deef2df2293b5326226c5018/1094782/15mm_german_sprue_01_mod.jpg

Is the Officer trying to shoot down a passing aircraft with his pistol? Yeah they are okay, would probably work well combined with PSC to have a few more poses and diversity, on their own they are a bit "meh" although the Panzerfausts are a nice addition.

These are hard plastic, right? I think they look quite well sculpted - better than PSC's 15mm plastics, and far better then the metal ones I've seen (which all look like dwarfs).

I thihk i will wait on this.

PSC announcement,
April is looking good for 15mm Late War German Infantry Heavy Weapons(from the PSC site)

If anything like the Soviets,i will be buying two sets.Looks like they will be around 25$.

THe Wargames factory ones are ok,but they are a little late to the 15mm party.

CainTheHunter wrote:Just saw the info on preorder at Maelstrom with no pics and googled them up. Still no pics of actual models, but 84 figures sounds like decent offer for £14.85.
http://wargamesfactory.com/announcements/wargame-factorys-first-15mm-set

Update. Found the sprue on the interwebs. Nevermind - they are crap. Strange poses, only two mortars, can't see any MGs.

http://wargamesfactory.lefora.com/composition/attachment/a350d557deef2df2293b5326226c5018/1094782/15mm_german_sprue_01_mod.jpg

They have a MG top middle.


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mwnciboo wrote:Is the Officer trying to shoot down a passing aircraft with his pistol? Yeah they are okay, would probably work well combined with PSC to have a few more poses and diversity, on their own they are a bit "meh" although the Panzerfausts are a nice addition.

The Officer is ralling his men,They just got their their Arses handed to them by the 101 st Airborne!!!
Either that or he is real drunk trying to shoot down a Mustang!(like your suggestion)

Bought some. These aren't actually that bad. Granted there are one or two odd poses, at least one really rubbish MG34 chap, and a ridiculous number of "snipers" but they scale well with PSC and do provide a couple of options PSC do not, like Officers and 'fausts and a 'shreck. The officer with the pistol is either lowering his pistol to aim, or raising it up after snapping off a shot.

12 snipers though...wtf were they thinking?

ArbeitsSchu wrote:
12 snipers though...wtf were they thinking?

They think some games are like FPS where half the people use snipers

Oh and the other MGs are the two gentlemen to the left of the prone gunner and his loader, The lower one is a more attractive version of the box art chap.The other looks like a rifleman, but its not..

ArbeitsSchu wrote:Oh and the other MGs are the two gentlemen to the left of the prone gunner and his loader, The lower one is a more attractive version of the box art chap.The other looks like a rifleman, but its not..

Can we kindly ask to snap a couple of shots when they are assembled? What kind of bases they are coming with? Same as the PSC, or are there any FoW medium-types provided as well?

CainTheHunter wrote:What kind of bases they are coming with? Same as the PSC, or are there any FoW medium-types provided as well?

They look like FoW size

They are pretty much FOW sized bases, though they lack the beveled edges, and they might be a smidge thinner as well. My intent is to mix these up with PSC troops, though they are ever so marginally smaller in some cases. I don't think it will be obvious particularly.

Aren't these are just rehashes of old soft plastic models I had when I was about 10?

Possibly even (dare I say it!) copies of old Airfix kits?

http://www.firebox.com/product/2530/Classic-Airfix-Toy-Soldiers

Well half those Airfix poses aren't on that sprue, and I rather wish they were, so I'm going to go with "no"

Many of them seem so damn familiar despite being so odd that no two people should be able to come up with them (i'm looking at you box and rifleman!).

Erg, these are really bad. The poses are just goofy, and don't get me started in on the box art...

_Tim?

To be honest, there aren't that many ways an infantryman can realistically stand when cast on a sprue, especially given how much time they actually spend lying down or in holes. I will stress that some of the stupid poses are an accident of 2d photography, and are not as bad "in the flesh".

Running them past my BF bobble-heads and Peter Pig "screamers" though, they don't look any worse, and are certainly better scaled than Bf .

The box art is absolutely hideous though. Monstrous, amateur rubbish. They REALLY should have gone with a pic of the contents, nicely painted. Or a historical print of some Germans. Or a white box with "Value Pack" on it.. Even a PSC box with the name scrubbed out in black felt tip.

Thanks for the info. I'll probably skip on this and wait for the PSC german heavy weapons.

I'll see If I can get the pics to work..



And its a biggy so you can get right in there...


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Hmm, it went on twice. Ho hum. No doubt I'll get the hang of it sooner or later.

Soldiers vary in height and build so it'll look fine. Don't like the bases, but that's because I like the styling of the BF ones.

got that book too....

I am taking PSC release schedule with a pinch of salt, I know he's got the stuff ready to go but there seems to be a delay with the manufacturing. I'm not sure he can speed it up, one thing's true though if he did he would corner the market within 12 months. I could see a point when BF sales start going down (on Core vehicles like Panthers and Panzer IV's). I think BF will be fine if they stick to the unusual stuff and PSC does the core/ stock vehicles.

The WGF models are not that bad.At least they come with bases.Not as bad as my brother calling my BF Germans bobble heads!.But of course he plays Russians and all he uses is PSC and ZVEZDA models.The theory behind the ZVEZDAS are that a Russian army should be supplied by a Russian company.Atleast he saysthat he is helping their local economy.He just spent a 100 dollars on their models and getting ready to buy more!

Like the PSC site says,Finally an affordible human wave!!!Like he says you can never have enough KAT launchers.

mwnciboo wrote:I am taking PSC release schedule with a pinch of salt, I know he's got the stuff ready to go but there seems to be a delay with the manufacturing. I'm not sure he can speed it up, one thing's true though if he did he would corner the market within 12 months. I could see a point when BF sales start going down (on Core vehicles like Panthers and Panzer IV's). I think BF will be fine if they stick to the unusual stuff and PSC does the core/ stock vehicles.

I found Flames of War by pure chance and loved the idea of it. Only after doing a little research did I came across The Plastic Soldier Company.

I think if new players were willing to spend the time researching the hobby, then without question most people would buy from PSC or others like Wargamefactory. They would save a small fortune, especially if they're willing to wait for all the new models they intend to bring out. However I would still imagine the core of new gamers would not know to look into cheap alternatives and would just stick with BF. The same could be said for some existing players who don't want to have a mix of both companies models and risk their army looking a bit mismatched.

-- Sorry that was getting a bit off topic. --

What i meant to say was... I really like the look of them and will be mixing them up with my other Plastic soldier company troops

Sadly I still can't think of a use for all those "snipers". A couple can go in my SPWs to bulk pout the crew, but that still leaves me with A LOT of that pose....

Though they might look good cut down for Foxholes, or lined up against the side of a trench in a Fortified company.


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mwnciboo wrote:Soldiers vary in height and build so it'll look fine. Don't like the bases, but that's because I like the styling of the BF ones.

got that book too....

I am taking PSC release schedule with a pinch of salt, I know he's got the stuff ready to go but there seems to be a delay with the manufacturing. I'm not sure he can speed it up, one thing's true though if he did he would corner the market within 12 months. I could see a point when BF sales start going down (on Core vehicles like Panthers and Panzer IV's). I think BF will be fine if they stick to the unusual stuff and PSC does the core/ stock vehicles.

Once he gets the core troops finished, and some of the common artillery/AT guns done, I'll be happy. I do wonder if it might have been more efficient to concentrate on one scale or faction a little more, so that players could make all of their core purchases from him in one go.

mwnciboo wrote:Soldiers vary in height and build so it'll look fine. Don't like the bases, but that's because I like the styling of the BF ones.

got that book too....

I am taking PSC release schedule with a pinch of salt, I know he's got the stuff ready to go but there seems to be a delay with the manufacturing. I'm not sure he can speed it up, one thing's true though if he did he would corner the market within 12 months. I could see a point when BF sales start going down (on Core vehicles like Panthers and Panzer IV's). I think BF will be fine if they stick to the unusual stuff and PSC does the core/ stock vehicles.

haha that is indeed a cracking book! The whole stackpole range is good to be fair. They look better based, if not still a little underwhelming.

The ones pictured aren't "based" per se, just standing on the bases to demonstrate the difference. PSC and these suffer from being a little bit overwhelmed by the size of the bases, though the four man element of German squads often does anyway.

Are there any figs in both kits which would make decent observer teams?

I used the PSC Radio Operator and a Command model as my observers it kind of made sense.

I'm hoping that the PSC Heavy Weapons will come with someone wielding a nice pair of binoculars that I can appropriate. The RO is going to be sat on his own otherwise...

Any one heard of the contents of the PSC German weapons box set?

col. krazy kenny wrote:Any one heard of the contents of the PSC German weapons box set?

I hope it will mirror the Russian HW set.

Today PSC announced update.

"April is looking good for 15mm Late War German Infantry Heavy Weapons, 1/72nd Sherman M4A1 76mm Wet and 1/72nd 251/D Halftrack.

May/June will see the 251 conversion kits in 15mm and 1/72nd, 1/72nd Late War German Heavy Weapons. We are having some fun trying to fit all the variants we want on one sprue for the 251 conversion kits so we are splitting them out into 2 kits. The first will have Pak 37 Platoon commander, Stummel (late type), mortar and flamm and the second will be a pioneer kit with pioneer and wuhrammen "stuka am fuss" conversions and a number of combat engineer foot figures with man pack flamethrowers, mine detectors etc, goliath and borgward remote control demolition vehicles.

On the radar - 15mm Tiger Is, Panzer III J,L,M,N, KV1/2, T60/70s, Stuarts, Churchills, M3/5 halftracks British and US Infantry; 1/72nd Universal carriers, Stuarts and US Infantry plus artillery, towed and self propelled, 15mm and 1/72nd."

Plastic pioneers and Stuka I guess, a mix of PSC infantry and foot figures from pioneer sprue will make a good alternative for Pioneer infantry.

And aparently Soviets and Germans can expect some artillery.

CainTheHunter wrote:

col. krazy kenny wrote:Any one heard of the contents of the PSC German weapons box set?

I hope it will mirror the Russian HW set.

We can only hope. I'm going to guess that we'll get panzerfausts/knackers in place of the anti-tank guns.