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2014/11/19 23:56:45
Subject: Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Going green...
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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I can imagine but it's gonna look great
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2014/11/20 21:07:17
Subject: Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Going green...
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Mysterious Techpriest
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That is why I do not like big terrain projects, well making them myself
It may be dull and whatnot, but finished to those bits above, it'll look incredible.
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2014/11/21 00:00:51
Subject: Re:Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Going green...
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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lol - thanks LOne dirty dog, GrimDork & OneMAnNoodles. I can now state with some certainty two things:
1) painting this thing is going to take as long, if not longer, than its taken to build it (and considering it's not finished, that might be longer than anyone imagines!)
2) in order to get time to paint it, I'm going to get fat again, as I've been missing gym sessions like crazy now :(
Anyway, here are a few more wips from tonight's efforts:
Made some progress on "whitewashing" interior walls:
Started to re-coat the details, but that get REALLY tedious. Will need to do the Manufactorum walls at some point, obviously...
Exterior white work completed on the lower front piece - difficult to get it all in shot due to the angles though:
And the reverse - interior whites done (as you'll be able to see some of it from the exterior - great - twice the amount of painting...) and a start on the metallics and tiles:
And an over head to show the contrast between the base colour of the tiles and the finished ones - amazing what three paints, one glaze, a load of varnish and a lot of time can do.. Although it's really frustrating that I have to do everything else BEFORE the 'fun' green parts...
So, as with the build previously, do you lot want to see more WIP pics or more 'final' pics?
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2014/11/21 00:36:36
Subject: Re:Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Going green...
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Hell Yeah !!!!!! We want to continue on with your pain and grief to complete this project ........................ if only in a supportive role at least LOL
Why go to the Gym you can build one of your own
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2014/11/21 01:23:10
Subject: Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Going green...
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Just lift the project a few times a day, that's gotta be exercise at this point
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2014/11/22 13:27:04
Subject: Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Going green...
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Why? Why the heck did I start the ruddy project??
Sigh...
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2014/11/22 14:01:36
Subject: Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Going green...
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Aww but it's soooooo awesome! Take a break if you need to but don't forget how cool it is
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2014/11/22 18:06:54
Subject: Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Going green...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I love that green. It'd be cool to have a chapter that color.
... For some reason Dark Angels put me off from the color Green in Warhammer 40k even though it is one of my favorites in real life.
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2014/11/22 19:11:20
Subject: Re:Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Going green...
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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If I took a break from the project Grim, I'll never finish the bloody thing... And thanks Stormwall - I'm loving the green to be honest, it's my favourite part to do. Trouble is its often the LAST part I get to do..
Anyway, sorry for the outburst previously: after a long a boring week of work, what happens? I come down with a cold at the weekend of course. So have felt like crap all day, and in order to get any painting done, have had to shove wads of bog roll up my nose to prevent leakage.. Leading to blocked sinuses and a stinking headache...
Of course, my mood hasn't been helped by the painfully slow progress I'm making on the project - everything I do seems to take about a zillion steps, with drying times making things even longer. Oh, that and my stupid, crippling attention to detail.
So here's today's pics as I can't do any more today or I'll go insane(r).
Firstly - interior metallics, now finished, all bar any corrosion. Do you lot have any idea how long it takes to pic out all the details and dry brush things WITHOUT getting anything on a previously whitewashed wall??
Mind you, when I say attention to detail, what I really mean is OCD - because if parts of the walls are torn apart, you ain't going to see whitewash are you? No, you'll see the base material:
So in between doing that I've managed to whitewash the exterior walls (destroying yet another medium dry brush in the process - it's going to cost me a small fortune to keep replacing them) and some more of the green roof tiles:
And the rest of the green glass panels on this piece:
The good news is that I have now successfully replicated the process using new GW paints - the test piece using the old ones on top of the new paints bit below. Spot the difference? No? Good!
On a slightly more positive note, my latest FW order has apparently been dispatched, so assuming I've not succumbed to man flu, I'll have something to look forward to picking up from work on Monday
Right, I'm off to mope for the rest of the evening. You might get more tomorrow, if I'm feeling up to it....
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2014/11/22 19:58:24
Subject: Re:Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Going green...
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Is that all you got done ........................ Only kidding I could not even begin to take on a project of this size so i take my hat off to you sir for that alone
The paint really does look amazing and the detail you have picked out is really crisp and well lined, on top of that the glass tiles replicate life extremely well must borrow that technique for the future
Well take a rest and let Nurgle do its worst hope it only a short stay mind, and I can't tell any difference between the old and new paints
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2014/11/22 20:16:31
Subject: Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Going green...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Phutarf, is it too much to ask to get your process for the green in GW paints? Either on here or in a PM? Also, it's looking great.
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2014/11/22 20:56:13
Subject: Re:Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Going green...
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Thanks for the compliment LDD - you know, I think it might be a result of deciding to do a pre-heresy Death Guard army that Papa Nurgle has struck me down..
As for people borrowing techniques, both you and Stormwall are more than welcome to do so, as is anyone else for that matter. It really quite simple in theory, just the execution than needs a bit of patience:
1) black undercoat
2) base of Caliban green
3) wet bend black ink (but thin black paint would work just as well I guess) to shade
4) wet blend Warpstone Glow to highlight
5) very thin line of moot green to edge highlight
6) cover entire surface with a wash of Lamenters yellow glaze (may require two coats got desired level of 'greenness')
7) the tricky bit ( lol) - cover with gloss varnish. The tricky bit is ensuring that you've put enough on so that the finish is smooth (drying horizontal is a must) while not putting so much on that it goes lumpy and ends up looking terrible. Generally I find that I do two coats - the first invariably is too thin and ends up with brush marks in it, but a second one to even things out has (so far) gone ok.
With the wet blending - I'm afraid it takes a while to do and also usually a great deal of saliva/paint eating due to the need to clean brushes between paints quickly... Don't do this at home kids (wait until your old and past it like me lol )
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2014/11/22 22:03:48
Subject: Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Going green...
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Madness! Wonderful madness
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2014/11/23 12:09:29
Subject: Re:Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Going green...
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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2014/11/24 15:31:54
Subject: Re:Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Going green...
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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I've painted some big projects before but nothing on this scale,
and definitely not to such a high standard .
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2014/11/24 23:03:42
Subject: Re:Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Going green...
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Practice practice practice LDD
Thanks hk1x1. Sadly there's a price to pay for the detail/standard, and that's time. Maybe if I break a leg or something I can get some extended time off work....
Anyway, feeling a bit more human so made a bit more progress this evening. Because I like to flit from one bit to the next, have started in the ruined Eagle. For those that have been following for a while, you may recall my original test eagle was a coppery/gold affair:
Well, having stated painting in earnest, I was struck after having doing the whole thing with an undercoat of Warplock Bronze and then putting the test beak back on that it reminded me of something... Cue a quick google search, and yep, something that should keep my American followers happy:
Consequently, a quick repainted of part of the test eagle later, I now have a new, darker, Eagle, which, after another comma, lol, I think works better with the rest of the scheme - the contrast with the white walls weally..... *ahem* really looks good I think, plus means the green spot colour will really stand out. Well, I think so anyway...
Obviously there is (as always) a heck of a lot still to do - the real beak needs painting for starters - but it's coming along. I'm particularly happy with how the blast door has come out:
Again, lots of detailing still to be done, and I wish now I'd just completed the over head light fitting in the same metallics rather than having to do that separately, but hindsight is a wonderful thing - will come in useful on the remaining 5 I have to do on the rest of the building....
That aside, now that painting has commenced, something else I touched on further back in the thread has become much more apparent. As such, I've made a couple of tentative purchases off eBay today, which I'll update you about in due course, but for now, here's a teaser spoiler...
Right, time for a quick catch up on other projects and then bed...
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2014/11/24 23:16:11
Subject: Re:Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Going green...
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Glad to hear Nurgle is moving on and the Emperor is smiling on you once again, either that or he wants building work finished.
The bronze and white are working in situ perfectly really compliment each other, although you need to paint the beak soon as it is very off putting
The blast door does look rather splendid especially the central section nice shading
Ok I see a battery will we be seeing lighting some time in the future ?????
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2014/11/24 23:28:22
Subject: Re:Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Going green...
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Don't we all!
The bronze and white are working in situ perfectly really compliment each other, although you need to paint the beak soon as it is very off putting
Sorry LDD - the beak's staying copper (after all, it's yellow of the real thing so can't really have it the same as the rest now can I?)
Ok I see a battery will we be seeing lighting some time in the future ?????
Maybe....
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2014/11/24 23:46:05
Subject: Re:Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Going green...
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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You do tease
Ok but the beak seems a bit bright in comparison maybe a wash at least ?
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2014/11/25 03:03:30
Subject: Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Going green...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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You are a tease Phu with your cliffhangers but, I forgive you due to the amount of Eagles.
The Emperor would approve.
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2014/11/26 17:28:14
Subject: Re:Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Who left the lights on?
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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@LDD - don't worry, the race/beak will get a proper paint job in due course.
@Stormwall - thanks - I'm sure he would. Wish I could get him to paint them tho!
Anyway, just a quick update today - and please bear in mind that this is my first foray into this territory - but now I've started, welcome to yet another can of OCDISH worms...
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2014/11/26 17:36:16
Subject: Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Who left the lights on?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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He would just cover it in burnished gold with an airbrush and say it was done...
Wow! That lighting is great!
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2014/11/26 18:12:32
Subject: Re:Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Who left the lights on?
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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EEEEWWWWW Mood lighting
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2014/11/26 20:27:32
Subject: Re:Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Who left the lights on?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Well, it may seem slow to you, but having missed a handful of updates I can see definite progress here. The green tiles are looking fantastic in situ, this thing is going to be gorgeous when done.
And if you're starting with lights, does that mean you need to go back and start pulling things apart to do some re-wiring?
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2014/11/26 20:39:03
Subject: Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Who left the lights on?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Nice stuff
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2014/11/26 21:07:37
Subject: Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Who left the lights on?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Because this project wasn't cool enough
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2014/11/26 21:17:29
Subject: Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Who left the lights on?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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He was secretly plotting in y'know, secret to make his builds better in the holiday season of winter, as he counted on us getting lazy and fat with holiday food and winter related injuries. Oh cruel fate!
God, this thread is awesome. I'd love to do this kinda of thing but, my girlfriend would kill me due to the money involved. Phu is a good kind of crazy.
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2014/11/26 21:34:55
Subject: Re:Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Who left the lights on?
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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I hate myself so much right now....
Thanks for the feedback one and all.
Trouble is, my magpie is back.
By which, as my long suffering partner will tell you, I am now in the full grip of an obsession. Which will not be quelled until I have managed to placate the urge to take it to its fullest extent. This normally manifests itself with wanting to buy shiny things - hence the magpie (and what could be more appropriate in this instance) and my now expanding collection of FW kits that steadfastly refuse to get built but. I.. Must... Have..... (Am also desperately fighting a losing battle against the current FW Knights bundles. Despite having a Reaver, Phantom and Warhound that I've not got anywhere near finishing. Sigh. Thank god for having no money ATM)
So now I'm going to HAVE to explore the wonderful world of model lighting. The current kit I got off eBay dirt cheap is nice and all, but to do the build justice I'll have to do things myself - God knows how long and what cost this is going to take
So a bit more playing around:
(Nb - this is a far more realistic representation of the actual light ATM - went for a 3mm warm white assembly - I think I'll need to up that to bright white, experiment with different size LEDs etc)
And the reverse:
Of course, NOW I need to figure out where to mount lights. Which can't be in places easily visible from the exterior, but provide good illumination. And where and how to hide the wiring. And how to feed everything from the battery store in the Manufactorum. And the whole voltage/resistance/ohms stuff - and I hate maths and physics. And the merits of soldering verses not soldering.
Thankfully Monkeytroll the build hasn't really progressed any in terms of its glued togetherness, so it should be fairly easy (HA!) to accommodate everything....
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2014/11/26 22:39:30
Subject: Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Who left the lights on?
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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Good luck with the magpie Phutarf.
I suck at wiring so can't be of help sorry
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2014/11/26 23:15:07
Subject: Terrain project: Imperial Cathedral - Who left the lights on?
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Mysterious Techpriest
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Dremel a groove into the joins to slot the wiring into is what I would do, since its just a butt joint, if you are careful you can pull it off.
Try Rapid Electronics, they'll (LEDs, resistors and a spool of wire) be cheaper than whatever you are paying to someone on ebay. If that helps to feed the magpie ...
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