NY nanny state now looking at banning popcorn and milk sizes

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**Frazzled**

In other news Berkeley and Austin just friended NY on facebook.
Wow NY what the hell happened to you people?

http://www.myfoxny.com/story/18774940/health-panel-talks-about-wider-food-ban

Health panel talks about wider food ban
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Posted: Jun 13, 2012 6:06 AM CDT
Updated: Jun 13, 2012 6:21 AM CDT
By LUKE FUNK, Senior Web Producer -
MYFOXNY.COM - The board hand-picked by Mayor Michael Bloomberg that must approve his ban of selling large sugar-filled drinks at restaurants might be looking at other targets.

The New York City Board of Health showed support for limiting sizes of sugary drinks at a Tuesday meeting in Queens. They agreed to start the process to formalize the large-drink ban by agreeing to start a six-week public comment period.

At the meeting, some of the members of board said they should be considering other limits on high-calorie foods.

One member, Bruce Vladeck, thinks limiting the sizes for movie theater popcorn should be considered.

"The popcorn isn't a whole lot better than the soda," Vladeck said.

Another board member thinks milk drinks should fall under the size limits.

"There are certainly milkshakes and milk-coffee beverages that have monstrous amounts of calories," said board member Dr. Joel Forman.

Mayor Bloomberg says the drink rules are an attempt to fight obesity in the city. It would limit food service establishments in the city from serving drinks bigger than 16 ounces but would allow refills.

The New York City Restaurant Association is fighting the proposal and is considering legal action of it goes into effect.

New York City voters oppose 51 - 46 percent Mayor Michael Bloomberg's proposed ban on the sale of over-sized sugary soft drinks, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday.

Read more: http://www.myfoxny.com/story/18774940/health-panel-talks-about-wider-food-ban#ixzz1xgTr5bcI

**Thanatos_elNyx**

Perhaps people should be fitted with odometers and you don't get to eat fatty foods until you can show that you have worked off the required calories.

**AustonT**

The moral of the story is you get the government you deserve.

**KingCracker**

Holy fething hell really? REALLY?!?! We need the state governments to tell us what to eat and drink now?

Im about to go postal and go off the damn grid. Everyone these days seems to be a bunch of friggin pussies

**sirlynchmob**

Thanatos_elNyx wrote:Perhaps people should be fitted with odometers and you don't get to eat fatty foods until you can show that you have worked off the required calories.

Just put a scale in every restaurant, and you get charged more tax based on how far over your ideal weight you are. Then after we put micro-chips in everyone with their medical/everything information on it, if your over your cholesterol we'll add more tax for that to.

**dogma**

KingCracker wrote:Holy fething hell really? REALLY?!?! We need the state governments to tell us what to eat and drink now?

NOW!?!

Been doing it for years, what with the FDA and Prohibition.

**KingCracker**

Really? Ive honestly never heard of them saying we cant eat certain things just cause (Granted I dont live in NY so maybe thats why)

**dogma**

Cheese, man. Our cheese sucks because of the FDA.

**George Spiggott**

I look forward to movies about gangsters smuggling in large popcorn and Cokes over the border from Canada.

**Huffy**

KingCracker wrote:Holy fething hell really? REALLY?!?! We need the state governments to tell us what to eat and drink now? Im about to go postal and go off the damn grid. Everyone these days seems to be a bunch of friggin pussies

People complain because they have no self-control that the government needs to do things about it....so I choose to blame the fattie...I mean big-boned who complain that they can't control their intake

**Clthomps**

This is only NY city..... So it can not be a nanny state. Please change your title.

NY is a large state and as a whole most new yorkers would love to make those filthy islands their own state....

**streamdragon**

He can take my large popcorn from my cold dead hands. (not that I live in NY...)

**Frazzled**

Huffy wrote:
KingCracker wrote:Holy fething hell really? REALLY?!?! We need the state governments to tell us what to eat and drink now? Im about to go postal and go off the damn grid. Everyone these days seems to be a bunch of friggin pussies

People complain because they have no self-control that the government needs to do things about it....so I choose to blame the fattie...I mean big-boned who complain that they can't control their intake

I blame people who want to tell me what to do and not let me live my life, like they know more than me. I usually find they are educated to the level of the ancient extinct sloths, yet want to tell me what to do.

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Am I the only person who remembers when popcorn was actually cooked in high fat coconut oil and animal fat?

**Grakmar**

I don't disagree with the principle of government monitoring what can and can't be sold as food. (If you disagree, I'll just point out that they're the ones keeping salmonella, mad cow disease, and outright toxic substances out of food.)

But, this does go too far. Adults should be allowed to decide for themselves what they can or can't eat (as long as it won't immediately harm them).

**Palindrome**

Frazzled wrote:

I blame people who want to tell me what to do and not let me live my life, like they know more than me. I usually find they are educated to the level of the ancient extinct sloths, yet want to tell me what to do.

Who would have thought that Frazzled would support the legalisation of cannabis.

**MrDwhitey**

Indeed, it's good of him!

**Hordini**

dogma wrote:Cheese, man. Our cheese sucks because of the FDA.

I don't know, you can still get pretty good cheese if you go to the right stores. I mean yeah, the so-called "American cheese" sucks, but that's not even real cheese. There's good stuff out there.

**Frazzled**

Palindrome wrote:
Frazzled wrote:

I blame people who want to tell me what to do and not let me live my life, like they know more than me. I usually find they are educated to the level of the ancient extinct sloths, yet want to tell me what to do.

Who would have thought that Frazzled would support the legalisation of cannabis.

When have I ever given an indication I didn't? If Cheech and Chogn have taught us nothing its that aliens (flying saucer aliens), have the best herbage.

Grakmar wrote:I don't disagree with the principle of government monitoring what can and can't be sold as food. (If you disagree, I'll just point out that they're the ones keeping salmonella, mad cow disease, and outright toxic substances out of food.)

But, this does go too far. Adults should be allowed to decide for themselves what they can or can't eat (as long as it won't immediately harm them).

note your examples are for diseases and toxins. I'm kinda ok with that.

Last I saw what "size" you get is not a disease or toxin.

**AustonT**

Palindrome wrote:
Frazzled wrote:

I blame people who want to tell me what to do and not let me live my life, like they know more than me. I usually find they are educated to the level of the ancient extinct sloths, yet want to tell me what to do.

Who would have thought that Frazzled would support the legalisation of cannabis.

Who doesn't?

**Palindrome**

Frazzled wrote:
Palindrome wrote:
Frazzled wrote:

I blame people who want to tell me what to do and not let me live my life, like they know more than me. I usually find they are educated to the level of the ancient extinct sloths, yet want to tell me what to do.

Who would have thought that Frazzled would support the legalisation of cannabis.

When have I ever given an indication I didn't? If Cheech and Chogn have taught us nothing its that aliens (flying saucer aliens), have the best herbage.

It seems completely unlike you. Its like Hitler attending a bar mitzvah (Godwin's law!).

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AustonT wrote:
Who doesn't?

Lots of people who seem to have been bewildered and blinded by decades of baseless propaganda.

Every state will always be a 'nanny' state, the entire point of a government is to regulate society and to be honest this needs to be the case. Unless of course people think that a utopian society is possible (human psychology rather goes against this though) or they want to live in tiny little autocracies (quite possibly in a mud hut).

In this particular case I support heavily taxing unhealthy foods, the current situation is basically untenable and the majority of western society will soon resemble the crew of that ship in WALL-E and that is largely due to the sheer cheapness of high calorie foods. Ramp up the price and the problem will correct itself as education on goes so far.

**Frazzled**

Palindrome wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Palindrome wrote:
Frazzled wrote:

I blame people who want to tell me what to do and not let me live my life, like they know more than me. I usually find they are educated to the level of the ancient extinct sloths, yet want to tell me what to do.

Who would have thought that Frazzled would support the legalisation of cannabis.

When have I ever given an indication I didn't? If Cheech and Chogn have taught us nothing its that aliens (flying saucer aliens), have the best herbage.

It seems completely unlike you. Its like Hitler attending a bar mitzvah (Godwin's law!).

Why? I've said repeatedly I'm a libertarian. Do what you want just: 1) don't tell me what to do; and 2) your activities end at my nose.
Its simple, its clear, its equal, its just.

**juraigamer**

Well now I can feel naughty for putting two bags of popcorn in one bowl and then heartily applying salt while drinking from my half gallon sized mug filled with sprite, all while watching terrible movies.

Yup.

**MrDwhitey**

The only thing naughty there is terrible movies.

However I share that shame, I -love- terrible movies. Terrible horror movies are just brilliant.

**AustonT**

Palindrome wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Palindrome wrote:
Frazzled wrote:

I blame people who want to tell me what to do and not let me live my life, like they know more than me. I usually find they are educated to the level of the ancient extinct sloths, yet want to tell me what to do.

Who would have thought that Frazzled would support the legalisation of cannabis.

When have I ever given an indication I didn't? If Cheech and Chogn have taught us nothing its that aliens (flying saucer aliens), have the best herbage.

It seems completely unlike you. Its like Hitler attending a bar mitzvah (Godwin's law!).

...or did he?
http://hitlersbarmitzvah.ytmnd.com/

**d-usa**

Sad thing is that a lot of folks that usually are the loudest to complain about "nanny states" are also the same folks that want the government to tell people what drugs they can take, what video games they can play, what shows should be on television and what couples should be able to form a family.

**Frazzled**

d-usa wrote:Sad thing is that a lot of folks that usually are the loudest to complain about "nanny states" are also the same folks that want the government to tell people what drugs they can take, what video games they can play, what shows should be on television and what couples should be able to form a family.

Not I said the spy. Let er rip. PLus I'm even more mellow. Frazzled is of the firm belief we only need to bow at the waist to our Wiener Dog overlords, not the full on kowtow like some people. Way to go overboard guys....

**d-usa**

Frazzled has a strong libertarian streak, that is why I said "most folks".

I find the Tea Party claim of "we want less government" pretty entertaining, mostly because I love to talk to them and point out to them all the ways in which they wish to expand government influence over peoples private lives.

**helgrenze**

Just remember that according to the same type of people that want to ban 32oz sodas and popcorn buckets, a Steak should be the size of a deck of standard playing cards.

**d-usa**

helgrenze wrote:Just remember that according to the same type of people that want to ban 32oz sodas and popcorn buckets, a Steak should be the size of a deck of standard playing cards.

Oprah should let them know that nobody survives messing with the beef folks.

**helgrenze**

I suppose that these same people missed the fact that popcorn is probably the only "whole grain" food that most people willingly eat.