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Hello all.
I have an interesting topic of discussion for you all today: a Painting Technique Livestream.
What is it?
Basically, Elliot and I (co-founders of E.D. Wargaming) have been exploring longer-form content in our "Let's Paint" series. We want to bring that to a bigger crowd now. Our idea is to go on Ustream or Google Hangout and paint for a few hours; those who tune in to watch can ask us questions about our painting and painting techniques. When we aren't fielding questions, we'll be explaining what we are doing and talking about the hobby. Maybe if we got to a good viewership, we could move into bringing other painters in and have them explain things.
Obviously this idea is still a work in progress, but I figured that by getting the idea out there maybe people can give some good feedback and we can get this idea off the ground.

Please, let me know what you think. I'm open to anything, even a "SHUT UP AND GET OFF THE INTERNET!". Obviously I won't follow that but at least it shows you care enough to be angry.

Thanks.

Drew
~E.D. Wargaming~

Honestly it depends. As someone who streams on twitch.tv for several video games I play I've found expecting a viewership is all about the personalities involved. It's all about how entertaining the people are together. To be honest straight gaming talks bore me. But at the same time half of the people who come into the paint bar do it cause the convos get hilarious. Whether its two guys playing jokingly gay chicken or the conversations getting rather crazy. It's the community.

100% gaming talk would have me there for maybe 10 min. Give me something to laugh at I may have you guys up in the background as I do my own painting.

If your gonna do it, strive to do it like a paint bar. Maybe use yowie or tinychat to allow people to get on their own cams and contribute like its a real paint bar.

I've watched livestreams of videogames and even a few 40k games before. I've never thought of livestreaming a painting session though. You'd need to be talking pretty regularly to keep it interesting, as I don't know how much I'd like to watch someone's hands for three hours. If you wanted to make some longer painting tutorial videos on Youtube that would be fine, but livestreaming a paint session doesn't seem like the most exciting thing in the world to me.

Stoupe wrote:Honestly it depends. As someone who streams on twitch.tv for several video games I play I've found expecting a viewership is all about the personalities involved. It's all about how entertaining the people are together. To be honest straight gaming talks bore me. But at the same time half of the people who come into the paint bar do it cause the convos get hilarious. Whether its two guys playing jokingly gay chicken or the conversations getting rather crazy. It's the community.

100% gaming talk would have me there for maybe 10 min. Give me something to laugh at I may have you guys up in the background as I do my own painting.

If your gonna do it, strive to do it like a paint bar. Maybe use yowie or tinychat to allow people to get on their own cams and contribute like its a real paint bar.

Thanks for the feedback.
Gaming would be our focus, but watching back the tape of our "Let's Paint", we get sidetracked into all sorts of things. I find it quite hilarious, I'm sure you will too.

As to your last point, that is indeed something I want to work towards. I'll look into those sites. Having people accompany us on the journey of painting would be awesome.

Drew
~E.D. Wargaming~


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Brother SRM wrote:I've watched livestreams of videogames and even a few 40k games before. I've never thought of livestreaming a painting session though. You'd need to be talking pretty regularly to keep it interesting, as I don't know how much I'd like to watch someone's hands for three hours. If you wanted to make some longer painting tutorial videos on Youtube that would be fine, but livestreaming a paint session doesn't seem like the most exciting thing in the world to me.

This one came in while I was writing the other reply, lol.

We do have a longer video up if you'd like to check it out: www.youtube.com/edwargaming. I'm sure we can keep it interesting, if we were able to get multiple people into a session then we could each have a camera focused on our models. The technical aspect is still coming along, merely working on the plausible right now.

I highly recommend yowie. That site gives so much control and programming to the users. I've seen it used for numerous various rap battles and contests. It allows you to vote up people with questions and talk with them a bit on cam rather than just contrIbute through text.

Stoupe wrote:I highly recommend yowie. That site gives so much control and programming to the users. I've seen it used for numerous various rap battles and contests. It allows you to vote up people with questions and talk with them a bit on cam rather than just contrIbute through text.

That's nice, is there a way to moderate people? i.e. mute or kick them if they are screwing things up? I'm not too sure after scrolling through the site.

You control who comes up on video. When your done you put me back down. I'm unsure about the chat side though but I know there's a lot a lot more moderator control with yowie. Just from the don't funk up our beats contest it was run really well on that site.

I'm not sure if you have seen them, but the Paint and Talk series at Miniwargaming is something like that, though it is more of a vlog with painting than focused on painting. It is a nice example, though, of how to maintain a conversation with your audience while you work.

I think a big part of it is that tone. You aren't going to be able to talk about painting long enough for it to coincide with the amount of time spent actually painting. That'll either lead to a really boring amount of repetition or long gaps of silence. I'd reccomend making the visual aspect focused on the painting, but bring in two or more people to work and maintain a broader conversation with the audience. Talk about painting for awhile, but let it flow naturally to different aspects of wargaming or just whatever comes to mind.

Also, this is an idea from MWG again, but it was really effective that they started the series with a whole new army, and did videos of the assembly, priming, painting and the whole nine yards. All while encouraging viewers to do the same and start something new.

Stoupe wrote:You control who comes up on video. When your done you put me back down. I'm unsure about the chat side though but I know there's a lot a lot more moderator control with yowie. Just from the don't funk up our beats contest it was run really well on that site.

Okay, I'll read more into it, sounds very intriguing.

curran12 wrote:I'm not sure if you have seen them, but the Paint and Talk series at Miniwargaming is something like that, though it is more of a vlog with painting than focused on painting. It is a nice example, though, of how to maintain a conversation with your audience while you work.

I think a big part of it is that tone. You aren't going to be able to talk about painting long enough for it to coincide with the amount of time spent actually painting. That'll either lead to a really boring amount of repetition or long gaps of silence. I'd reccomend making the visual aspect focused on the painting, but bring in two or more people to work and maintain a broader conversation with the audience. Talk about painting for awhile, but let it flow naturally to different aspects of wargaming or just whatever comes to mind.

Also, this is an idea from MWG again, but it was really effective that they started the series with a whole new army, and did videos of the assembly, priming, painting and the whole nine yards. All while encouraging viewers to do the same and start something new.

Indeed, we are really going to try to make it personal with the viewers. It seems with this video site we can do a whole lot.