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Everyone's reasoning is going to be different, but I'm curious what the most popular answers are. I'll start off by saying that out of everyone I probably dislike the Space Wolves the most. Not so much because of their lore (which I also dislike, but that has nothing to do with them as a playable race), but because I feel they have many traits that use to specifically belong to other factions (like how they can mimic a Deathwing Army) and than just more crap loaded on top to make them even more over the top. At least Grey Knights and the like have their own general flavor and ideas, Space Wolves seems like a few ideas and than ripping off 1/2 the other factions.

So, what is your most disliked playable faction in 40k and why?

BA angels, lets throw lots of FNP around in an Assault orientated army with lots of Rending Assault Cannons, add in some crazy Rage Deathcompany, Blood Talon Dreadnoughts, Fast tanks, Discount Razorbacks for 5 man assault units as troops, badass characters and then some extra assault units, apocatharies and a special assault tactic called Decent of Angels, an attack craft only used by the GK's except the BA get them too.... I've missed alot of other stuff, but the SW's have always been fluffy and things like lone wolves and such are quite endearing as are Blood claws. The BA just seemed like an excuse to go overboard until GK's turned up, but then GK's are outnumber 2 to 1 by a SM army so there you go.

Tau Empire.

They are a young race that is extremely technology advanced and are the closest to having a "good" faction in this universe. Ya that kind of annoys the gak out of me at times.

Next would be Blood Angels (fething slowed fluff)

and than Space Wolves (I hate vikings and they act like drunken idiots)

I'm not a Space Wolves fan.

To me, the models look more like they've got clown heads.

Also, I side with the 1k sons against them...

I like thousand sons ALOT, therefore I hate SW and i not only because i think their fluff is dumb, but their rules are currently OP

Orks, can't stand their fluff.

Tau, everyone talks at my store about how they are "The only good guys" and they help others. i hate that, 40k is a world of grey.

Grey Knights as they currently stand. They should be an elites choice in Space Marine or Guard lists, not a codex in their own right. The same can be said for all marine variant chapters, but Grey Knights are the worst.

I'm surprised Tau is thus far up there with some of the most disliked. I can see where you are all coming from, I take their fluff with the idea that the Ethereal have everyone under mind-control and that though people like Farsight might still embrace "The Greater Good" there is still a reason he has not returned, being that I'm sure after being mind controlled you would enjoy your freedom as well.

However, if you do not accept that as part of their fluff...than yea...being goodie good in the 40k world is lame.

Thanks for the input thus far everyone! Very interesting!

Oh dear, let the Tau bashing commence... Apparently mind controlled militant cow-people that are hinted to be genocidal if you don't agree to join them isn't grim-dark enough, but cockney mushroom men are fine >.<

I have no preferences, fluffwise. I just appreciate such a wide variety of factions

I could practically feel the SW hate just from looking at the title of this thread, and although there isn't too much of it as it currently stands, it will come.

Personally, I'm not really a fan of Dark Angels. I like all of the factions based on their own merit, but I just seem to like Dark Angels the least.

Shas'o_Longshot wrote:Oh dear, let the Tau bashing commence... Apparently mind controlled militant cow-people that are hinted to be genocidal if you don't agree to join them isn't grim-dark enough, but cockney mushroom men are fine >.<

I have no preferences, fluffwise. I just appreciate such a wide variety of factions

Dont miss understand, I like to think of my Tau as extremly dark. However he asked what do I dislike to most and I said what I disliked the most and gave my reason.

In a few hours you are going to see a lot of anti SMs I assure you

I don't understand all this anti tau / not grim Dark stuff either...

Disliking them based on they dont want to rape, pillage, murder and eradicate everyone who opposes them is idiotic.


Anyone who thinks that is cool should take a tour of Auschwitz and get back to me on how cool it actually is.

I dislike Tyranids the most. I think it is just their look I don't like. What I really don't understand is why people hate SW and Tau so much?

GK

Then BA

Then SW

*insert Marines should only have the one codex argument *

Mostly just GK though. That whole dex is just beyond..

Grey Knights. Not because I think they're OP, but because their background is a complete contradiction to them being seperate fully fledged playable faction.

The Tau's shade of "grey" is that they are a caste society with really no room for upward mobility. Often "sacrifices" for the Greater Good entail members of lesser standing being thrown into the meat grinder for the sake of their society's elite. The novel Fire Warrior did a pretty good job of showing the lengths they'd go to in order to secure an Ethereal's life. Sounds a lot like the Imperium/Imperial Guard to me...

Anyways, I find it hard to dislike any one faction based on lore. I even found myself intrigued by the Chaos Space Marines viewpoint in Storm of Iron.

Tyranid do freak me out though. Its crazy to think that they've already caused so much destruction, yet only like, what, about 0.01% of the hive fleet has actually entered into the galaxy?

Oh oh oooh! Multi-choice poll! I just ticked in all my griefs, don't worry, I didn't tick *all* Space Marine progeny, and surprisingly enough not even half of them.

Contrary to most, I don't get why there's so much hate going in Tau's direction. They are there for contrast, but still have that creepy "not sure if greater goodious" hanging over them to keep them in the grim dark universe. With only grim dark factions of dark grimness... well let's just say Abaddon is getting more and more reasonable each year without having to change his ways.

Blood Angels. My buddy has a list filled with Assault Marines which is very fast and very choppy, then he also has a gunline list with 3 Predators, 3 Baal Predators and 4 Razorbacks that reminds me of IG. I don't think one Codex should be able to field two lists that are that different and equally viable.

StoneRaizer wrote:Blood Angels. My buddy has a list filled with Assault Marines which is very fast and very choppy, then he also has a gunline list with 3 Predators, 3 Baal Predators and 4 Razorbacks that reminds me of IG. I don't think one Codex should be able to field two lists that are that different and equally viable.

Depends on the army. I do agree with you, though, in the specific case of Blood Angels (and by extension Space Wolves). Some armies simply are all-rounders (Eldar, IG, codex SM, chaos SM) but the non-codex Space Marine chapters are supposed to be chapters based entirely around an idea that separates them from regular Space Marines, they're supposed to have an over-focus on a certain area. This focus just isn't there with BA and SW.

Space Wolves.
Stupid fluff+stupid models+stupid rules=my least favorite army.

Any faction that allows you to use Elite units as Troop units. I.e Grey Knight and their terminators. The regular knights are enough of a bitch to kill as it is!

Space wolves.

They're soooo dumb. Cheap units, rules, wargear, powers, and much more. Also basically drunk marines/vikings.

I'd rather play GK, at least they have a weakness, being shot at.

1st - Chaos Demons - They just should not exist. Stole a major fluff away from C:CSM and there is just no reason what so ever for Demons to band together and go raiding.

2nd - Blood Angles - They ARE C:SM but with better toys, more power, and horrific fluff.

haha the only one i would say i "hate" by any stretch is Dark Eldar, BUT only because when i play with them i simply mess everything up and looses within 4 turns average x) (my group occasionally swaps armies to spice things up).

In fluff terms?

Probably Space Wolves. Terrible mary-sue-disguised-as-bad-boys-with-hearts-of-gold fluff that's often highly confused and contradictory, not to mention reads like bad internet fanfic. They try to be dark brooding burdened executioners, boistrous scallywags, werewolves, superstitious viking berzerkers, intensly intelligent soldiers, pranksters and "good guys" all at the same time, and it comes off as just...awful.

That said, SM fluff in general isn't far behind, be it GW or BL.


Eldar used to piss me off, but haven't really been in the spotlight much of late.



In game terms? Again, Space Wolves are up there, being not only "Marines+1 with 15% discount", but also very, very rarely playing like one would imagine an SW army actually appearing, with either hordes of giant wolves being ridden by men who think they are wolves, or mechanized gunlines that look like Iron Warriors armies hastily re-painted in Fenris grey (lots of small infantry units maximizing firepower and often operating in multiples of 3, etc).

BA's too, most of the time I see them they basically are playing like Imperial Guard armored companies, lost of armor and IFV's, and whenever you do see jump pack based armies they tend to be built to the hilt around FNP being on *everything*.

I find myself torn on this, between chaos daemons and grey knights.

For the daemons I just don't get how there are meant to be billions of them, some kind of continuous swarm, and yet you field only an average number of the field?
And with the grey knights, yes they do look awesome, but their fluff turns them all into some kind of army of demi-gods who could solo about 1 million daemons each without a scratch, and what do they get? Shiny terminators with a blue sword

But I thought grey knights would get the most hate anyway so I went for Chaos

I'm not a great fan of Tau. I guess this may stem from them being a strong anti-vehicle army - and I play Orks with already weak vehicles, so I hate the way I have to play a specific way to beat them - Green tide & Kommando's with Snikrot. Play Speed Freaks and lose Turn 1 Initiative it's usually game over.

Tau are also my least favourite models in 40K. Although with that said a guy at our club the other week did have the most amazingly painted Tau army.

Necrons...they should be cool like the Terminator or the Borg...but they just look like space pharohs to me!

Everytime I see them being played I always make a point of humming 'walk like an Egyptian'!

Once it was the Tau, now, its those gakking new Grey Knights and Necrons.