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HQ
Valaria [140]

Troops
5 Terminators [225][Psycannon, 4 Daemon Hammers]
5 Grey knights [110][Psycannon]

Heavy Support
Psyrifle dred [135]
Land Raider redeemer [250][Psybolt ammo]

Fortification
Fortress of redemption [220]

Allied Imperial guard

HQ
Lord Commissar [80][Camo Cloak]

Elite
Marbo[65]

Troops
Platoon Command Squad [50]lascannon]
Infantry Squad [60][Autocannon]
Infantry Squad [60][Autocannon]
Heavy Weapons Squad [105][Lascannon]

Well as far as effective goes I'd say it's alil on the light side, the units are really mixed match, the guard squads are suited to different roles as per lascannon team, and sniper rifles your either wasting the lascannon shooting at rank and file, and vice versa, give them a dedicated role, I think triple plasma would be cool, but seeing as your lacking anti tank meltas or at very least demolitions doctrine.

now to cover your general combat unit, two 5 man termi units which will get teared a new one trying to holding midfield, deepstriking, foot slogging, or in combat, my point is ten termis are not very survivable with out something special such as SS, alot of points for very little survivability

Interesting not seeing a techmarine in the list, I see you have the techpriest, while fluffy from a very narrow point of view, could just as easily convert a ccs into a skittari command section, infact if this army isnt heavily converted I'd be surprised/ disappointed. Servitors and plasma, no complaints fun, and cheap, and I'm not sure a fortress if redemption will shore up this, lists small model count

and sniper rifles your either wasting the lascannon shooting at rank and file,

I was thinking about just giving them an autocannon or heavy bolter but that leaves me with no little to deal with av14, meltas are good but these guys are going in the fortress. Plasmas? Not sure I have the points to give them all plasmas. I started out with them with plasma but had to drop them down to fit the psyflemen.

infact if this army isnt heavily converted I'd be surprised

Well here's valeria, I'm having her modeled after felicia tayber, so I couldn't really go with a bog standard techmarine. She's just a techpriest anyway so no where near the level of a secutor, which would be the only things in the priesthood with T4 besides magos's.


Psyflemen are going to be made using defiler bits and autocannons to look like this


terminators i'm not sure yet, either something like this with the proper weapons. these guys are secutors (warrior techpriests) At 2000 I want to bring in a secutorial magos, but i'm not sure what would do a magos of the secutors justice in terms of rules, they're said to be nigh impossible to kill, with all sorts of weapons and hundreds of years of experience in battle.


or these guys


Lascannon teams are going to be made from servitors. Not sure how yet

I've got zero idea on how to make a mechanicus base though. Fortress of redemption as a base maybe but i'd have to cut off that hideous angel and put up the mechanicus plate.

I'll edit the list now.


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edited, wasn't able to come up with a way to make the terminators more survivable though.

Hmm alright after alil further inspection without transports of any kind, I think you might wanna consider dropping the veteran squads and making them a platoon since they will be occupying the fortresses, give them some long ranged heavy weapons, maybe take some attached heavy weapon squads, take a lord commissar with camo cloak, model him as a skittari general with some type of shield device, will give that platoon a better cover save.

If Valeria is going with those servitors you should add crusaders to the unit, 3 servitors will be a poor bunker for her, if terminators are what your set on, maybe take small of pagk, and a small unit if paladins with a stave. Just need to remeber since you lack transports, mobility is your issue, you don't want survivability to be an issue as well or you will fold, trying to march around the field, you need more bodies.


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Btw the concepts for the models are boss, and those bio tech models are real friggin' cool.

Arthas367 wrote:Hmm alright after alil further inspection without transports of any kind, I think you might wanna consider dropping the veteran squads and making them a platoon since they will be occupying the fortresses, give them some long ranged heavy weapons, maybe take some attached heavy weapon squads, take a lord commissar with camo cloak, model him as a skittari general with some type of shield device, will give that platoon a better cover save.

that sounds a lot like cheating without breaking the rules I like. what would that cover save be? in a fortress, with stealth? I would like some long range HWS.

If Valeria is going with those servitors you should add crusaders to the unit, 3 servitors will be a poor bunker for her, if terminators are what your set on, maybe take small of pagk, and a small unit if paladins with a stave. Just need to remeber since you lack transports, mobility is your issue, you don't want survivability to be an issue as well or you will fold, trying to march around the field, you need more bodies.

well if i'm using HWS's I can drop the servitors all together drop one squad of terminators, and throw valeria and five termies in a land raider of some sort.

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Btw the concepts for the models are boss, and those bio tech models are real friggin' cool.

They're also $15 a piece, so if I'm using them I would certainly be dropping down to 5

Well I know that ruins will count as 4+ in new Ed, im not sure if the fortresses will be a 4+ or 3+, so your looking at a 2+ - 3+ cover save, pretty damn good in my opinion, dropping some things and playing with the numbers will def allow for a raider, but i'm not sure Valeria is someone you want to throw into tge thickest of combats, what are you making your second troop?

Also keep in mind most of your army is shooting based and that,one raider will catch all the heat, and risk getting mobbed, seriously consider paladins for holocaust, or even purifiers, not sure what youd make them in the mechanicus hierarch, 5 terminators isn't very decisive because of numbers, also consider a unit of dca and crusaders with a inquistor with grenades to offset their none, dca make people cry in hth

Arthas367 wrote:Well I know that ruins will count as 4+ in new Ed, im not sure if the fortresses will be a 4+ or 3+, so your looking at a 2+ - 3+ cover save, pretty damn good in my opinion, dropping some things and playing with the numbers will def allow for a raider, but i'm not sure Valeria is someone you want to throw into tge thickest of combats, what are you making your second troop?

Also keep in mind most of your army is shooting based and that,one raider will catch all the heat, and risk getting mobbed, seriously consider paladins for holocaust, or even purifiers, not sure what youd make them in the mechanicus hierarch, 5 terminators isn't very decisive because of numbers, also consider a unit of dca and crusaders with a inquistor with grenades to offset their none, dca make people cry in hth

Purifiers would be the same as the terminators, secutors, just modeled differently, probably techpriests with flamers on their servo arm. Could do that for two whole units of 10 PAGK as the secutors, forgo the landraider and DS in, but that's 20 $11.50 models. cheap right?

actually I might do that, secutors are supposed to be the interdiction forces of the mechanicus for when things get hairy anyway. Wonder if i could put PAGK in a valkyrie......


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Edited, I could take the land raider out and just put in 10 more PAGK though. thoughts? Veterans are now firmly just extensions of the fortress defense, flamers to ward off attackers and what not. I know the carapace armor is a horrible waste but kasrkins look GOOOD.

Something im wondering aswell for spacewolves and chaos and demons, I think it would be hilarious for my skull taker and letters to be cruising in a vendetta, but that might be a battlebrother only rule, or not at all

fairly sure battle brothers can, not sure on the others, sucks that GK aren't battle brothers with anyone.


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also just realized the new list is illegal.... fixing


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fixed, I suppose land raider will have to wait till 2000 points.


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I don't even want to price this army right now. here's hoping the boxed set is robed marines so I can make some cheap PAGK counts as secutors.

Well I can help with a few alternatives, dark angels veteran box set are robed marines, 5 for like 30, and if you want to do the commisar camo deal, works waaay better with a guard infantry blobs who can combine to make a 50 man squad with 5 lascannons and all benefiting from the camo

Arthas367 wrote:Well I can help with a few alternatives, dark angels veteran box set are robed marines, 5 for like 30, and if you want to do the commisar camo deal, works waaay better with a guard infantry blobs who can combine to make a 50 man squad with 5 lascannons and all benefiting from the camo

what can I do if I want to use kasrkins as my guard/skitarii models though?

I suggest adding in at least 1 flyer.

For one you have no defense vs them.
For two they are awesome.

Tyrs13 wrote:I suggest adding in at least 1 flyer.

For one you have no defense vs them.
For two they are awesome.

High tech has me covered. and they created it before the stormtalon. *brofist*

Thought's now?

In terms of using this army for games, I'm guessing you've already taken into consideration that so many non-GW models will result in it being not-GW-tourney-friendly. Are you planning to mod heavily such that it is, or leave it?

Enigwolf wrote:In terms of using this army for games, I'm guessing you've already taken into consideration that so many non-GW models will result in it being not-GW-tourney-friendly. Are you planning to mod heavily such that it is, or leave it?

Only if I use the high tech miniatures, conversions are fine as are ground up sculpts.