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I looked around but could not find an answer to this.
If you have an Eldar Wraithlord that is being assaulted and it is armed with two flamers and TL Scatter Lasers does he get 2 x D3 wounds and 4 x S6 re-rollable shots in overwatch?

It would be a normal wraithlord shooting, so pick two of the guns to shoot.

Monstrous creatures can fire up to two weapons, as per the rulebook (p48). A wriathlord can be armed with 4 weapons, but duplicates count as twin linked (Eldar Codex, p66). So a wraithlord with two flamers and two scatters lasers, effectively has 2 weapons: a twin-linked flamer and a twin-linked scatter laser. Both can then be fired in overwatch.

The twin-linked flamer would inflict D3 automatic hits with re-rollable to-wound rolls (twin-linking on templates, p. 43). The twin-lined scatter laser would give you 4 S6 shots, re-rollable to-hit, only hitting on 6s.

spinach_chin wrote:It would be a normal wraithlord shooting, so pick two of the guns to shoot.

Sorry I am new to Eldar and have not made it through the codex yet. Where does it say their normal shooting is two weapons?

terminalmonky wrote:

spinach_chin wrote:It would be a normal wraithlord shooting, so pick two of the guns to shoot.

Sorry I am new to Eldar and have not made it through the codex yet. Where does it say their normal shooting is two weapons?

All monstrous creatures may fire up to two weapons in a shooting attack.

DexKivuli wrote:Monstrous creatures can fire up to two weapons, as per the rulebook (p48). A wriathlord can be armed with 4 weapons, but duplicates count as twin linked (Eldar Codex, p66). So a wraithlord with two flamers and two scatters lasers, effectively has 2 weapons: a twin-linked flamer and a twin-linked scatter laser. Both can then be fired in overwatch.

The twin-linked flamer would inflict D3 automatic hits with re-rollable to-wound rolls (twin-linking on templates, p. ). The twin-lined scatter laser would give you 4 S6 shots, re-rollable to-hit, only hitting on 6s.

Only the heavier weapons become twin-linked if two of the same are taken. It states before the options for those weapons that a Wraithlord must be equipped with a shuriken catapult and a flamer, two shuriken catapults or two flamers, not a single twin-linked version of either weapon.

Avatar 720 wrote:

DexKivuli wrote:Monstrous creatures can fire up to two weapons, as per the rulebook (p48). A wriathlord can be armed with 4 weapons, but duplicates count as twin linked (Eldar Codex, p66). So a wraithlord with two flamers and two scatters lasers, effectively has 2 weapons: a twin-linked flamer and a twin-linked scatter laser. Both can then be fired in overwatch.

The twin-linked flamer would inflict D3 automatic hits with re-rollable to-wound rolls (twin-linking on templates, p. ). The twin-lined scatter laser would give you 4 S6 shots, re-rollable to-hit, only hitting on 6s.

Only the heavier weapons become twin-linked if two of the same are taken. It states before the options for those weapons that a Wraithlord must be equipped with a shuriken catapult and a flamer, two shuriken catapults or two flamers, not a single twin-linked version of either weapon.

Cool, thanks for that.
1) So the Wraithlord then has 3 weapons: a flamer; another flamer; and a twin-linked scatter laser.
2) Being a monstrous creature, it can fire any 2 of them in overwatch.
3) The possible combinations for overwatch fire are:
a) 2 flamers, inflicting 2 x D3 automatic hits
b) 1 flamer and the twin-linked scatter laser, inflicting D3 automatic hits, and getting 4 S6 shots with re-rolls to hit (that only hit on rolls of 6).

Note: I bolded hits because in the OP, you said wounds.

You've got it.

DexKivuli wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:

DexKivuli wrote:Monstrous creatures can fire up to two weapons, as per the rulebook (p48). A wriathlord can be armed with 4 weapons, but duplicates count as twin linked (Eldar Codex, p66). So a wraithlord with two flamers and two scatters lasers, effectively has 2 weapons: a twin-linked flamer and a twin-linked scatter laser. Both can then be fired in overwatch.

The twin-linked flamer would inflict D3 automatic hits with re-rollable to-wound rolls (twin-linking on templates, p. ). The twin-lined scatter laser would give you 4 S6 shots, re-rollable to-hit, only hitting on 6s.

Only the heavier weapons become twin-linked if two of the same are taken. It states before the options for those weapons that a Wraithlord must be equipped with a shuriken catapult and a flamer, two shuriken catapults or two flamers, not a single twin-linked version of either weapon.

Cool, thanks for that.
1) So the Wraithlord then has 3 weapons: a flamer; another flamer; and a twin-linked scatter laser.
2) Being a monstrous creature, it can fire any 2 of them in overwatch.
3) The possible combinations for overwatch fire are:
a) 2 flamers, inflicting 2 x D3 automatic hits
b) 1 flamer and the twin-linked scatter laser, inflicting D3 automatic hits, and getting 4 S6 shots with re-rolls to hit (that only hit on rolls of 6).

Note: I bolded hits because in the OP, you said wounds.

Thanks for straightening me out. So would the 2 D3 auto Hits at S4 be better than the 1 d3 S4 and 4 S6 hits with re-roll?
I would assume the single flamer and the TL Scatter Laser.

Hitting on a 6 is bad hitting without rolling is good.

Pg 13 of the rulebook, twmplate weapons do not fire snap shots. Pg 21, weapons that may not snap shoot may not overwatch.

Page 52 "wall of death".

Without doing the math it seems like using the 2 flamers would be the best way to go.

Surely it depends on what is charging the Wraithlord.

Grab some dice and do some mock rolls, that'll be the best way to tell.

Spetulhu wrote:Surely it depends on what is charging the Wraithlord.

This. If you're being charged by something with high toughness, the flamer might not even be able to hurt it. Armour saves also play a very small part. The flamer will statistically inflict more hits, but finds it harder to wound. Vice versa for the laser.

Math-hammer wise, it's actually pretty close. Flamers are preferred for chargers with toughness 3 or less. Scatter lasers are preferred for toughness 5 or more. The two are more or less equal at toughness 4.

HoverBoy wrote:Grab some dice and do some mock rolls, that'll be the best way to tell.

Unless you're doing like a set of 1000 rolls, it's really *not* the best way to tell. Small sample sizes have a decent chance of being inaccurate.

2 flamers is 3 str 4 hits on average

a flamer and a twin-linked scatter laser is 1.5 str 4 hits and 1.2 str 6 hits on average. Against anything that's T4 or above the flamer and scatter laser option does a little more damage on average.

willydstyle wrote:

HoverBoy wrote:Grab some dice and do some mock rolls, that'll be the best way to tell.

Unless you're doing like a set of 1000 rolls, it's really *not* the best way to tell. Small sample sizes have a decent chance of being inaccurate.

2 flamers is 3 str 4 hits on average

a flamer and a twin-linked scatter laser is 1.5 str 4 hits and 1.2 str 6 hits on average. Against anything that's T4 or above the flamer and scatter laser option does a little more damage on average.

Maybe but AP plays a factor too, genestealer or guardsman will get his armor against a laser but not the flamer.

Good point.