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As the new Chaos Codex is nearly upon us, i thought i would try to revist one of my favourite fan-made additions. It is the lovely Land Raider Marauder invented by Just Dave for his awesome fandex (which can be found here)

Personally i think it is a travesty that there is not a new Raider in the Chaos Dex (not that i'm aware of anyway) so i have already cleared it with my local gaming group that i can use this.

It a dead easy conversion (even easier now with the 'Mauler kit coming out soon and contains 2 big "gatling guns" to use) and, i think, looks nice as well.



Land Raider Marauder 230 Points

BS4
14/14/14
4 HP

Wargear:
1 Hull mounted Hades Autocannon
2 Sponson mounted Twin Linked Heavy Bolters

Transport Capacity: 16 (models in Terminator armour count as 2 models)

Special Rules: Assault vehicle

The Land Raider marauder may take the following options from the vehicle armoury at the normal* price :

*I have no idea what the prices will be yet til the codex comes out

Daemonic Possession
Pintle mounted Twin Linked bolter
Pintle Mounted Twin Linked Combi weapon
Havoc Launcher
Extra Armour
Dirge Caster



I was toying with the idea of an option to replace either the main gun or the sponsons with Bale Flamers (S6 AP3, Torrent) but thought it might be a bit OP.


PICS:

Do you have rules for the Hades Cannon? Or are they supposed to be in the new dex?

They're in the new 'dex.

36", S8, AP4 heavy 4.

Nice model, a little bit tame with the Hades Autocannon stats.

Any other suggestions? In JustDaves original incarnation it had a Marauder Cannon which was S6 AP3.

Nw that Snapfire exists it can move 12", fire off 4 S8 and 6 S5 shots (the latter of which are twin linked) and still have the contents (usually berzerkers in my case) charge out to break face.

I personally think the S6 AP3 would be better (Heavy 4?). If someone turned up with one against me I would be happy enough letting them play with it.

It's certainly not a "this is my invented vehicle, its completely underpriced and awesome and by the way I've re-written the basic rules and it is AV15; nore guns than navarrone and enough space to fit iteself into itself twice" which I have come across - bizarly it was a converted Airfix model.

So you dont think S6 AP3 heavy 4 woudl be too OP?

What about the range? you think 36" is still viable? 24" might make more sense so all it's guns have the same range.

I think S6 AP3 Heavy 4 would should push the cost of the LR up to closer to the 250 mark as per most of them (Possibly 235pts). For a bit of fun I would be too worried about playing against it at the 220 mark. The range should be 36" as its a non-melta heavy weapon.

Having checked out the standard raiders last night I would think the 220 point mark would be better for the Hades Autocannon as you originally had it.

I'm not sure a Hades Autocannon LR would catch on just like the LRBT with the autocannon turret has not mainly because it doesn't have the punching power for the overall cost.

I was hoping to keep the points cost fairly low - which is why i thought to go AP4 and higher S rather than a big marine killer.

I'm basically trying to get a Crusader for Chaos. It fires less shots but those shots pack a bigger punch.

With S8 it also has a chance to punch out enemy transports and then unleash its squad to charge the contents (which is legal now).

... That's kind of the opposite of the Crusader's design philosophy, you know? It trades heavy bolters for an assault cannon (more shots, more power) and lascannons for Hurricane Bolters (many more shots, much less power).

Personally I'd go with the Hades, and yes, the Baleflamer sponsons is fine - the Redeemer isn't broken, after all, and that's basically what you're suggesting!

My issue with the Baleflamer is that it has the Torrent rule - so it has an additional 12" of range before you place the flamer template. That's the only reason i didn't use it.


Maybe start off with heavy Bolters and make the Baleflamers an buy-able option (20 points?)

A Land Raider with buyable Baleflamer sponsons would be in the 300+ points range, easy. That's an extremely powerful weapon.

Exactly my point. I want to keep it in-line witha normal Land Raider in terms of price.

 Praxiss wrote:
My issue with the Baleflamer is that it has the Torrent rule - so it has an additional 12" of range before you place the flamer template. That's the only reason i didn't use it.


Maybe start off with heavy Bolters and make the Baleflamers an buy-able option (20 points?)

also the redeemer can rarely get a squad with more than 1 of its flamers. dual bale flamers would be OP as you could easily get both templates on the same squad.

To me the hades just doesnt pair up against twinlined assault cannons. and heavy bolters are worse than lascannons or redeemer cannons. As you have it the thing is just a metal box, make it 200 points. Allow you to swap the single hades autocannon for a bale flamer.

I would suggest this
Land Raider Extermitus 260 points
AV14 assault vehicle. Transport 13 modesl (evil chaos liked odd numbers)
sponsons are hades autocannons, that can be swapped for ectoplasma cannons for free.
reaper autocannon in the middle slot, that can be swapped for another ectoplasma cannon for 10 points.

To the OP, why did you drop the transport capability of Just Dave's version from 16 to 12? That was kinda the whole point for him designing the thing, wasn't it?

Good point, i'm thinking mis-type.

Fixed.