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Backstory at http://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer/comments/119a29/there_are_multiples_of_the_same_numbered_ltd_ed/.

Basically, GW shrink wrapped a unique 1/1000 letter into each limited Chaos codex. They then decided they didn't like them, so they printed 1000 more letters that didn't have the watermark background on them. In the US they opened their 400 copies and replaced the letter. In the UK they left the books shrink wrapped and taped the replacement letter onto the outside. It's unclear what happened to the ROW but it appears they got opened and replaced as well. So the net result is there are actually two different versions of the Codex letter out there. If you bought in the US/ROW, you've got either a 1/600 or a 1/1000 book depending on how you look at it, while if you bought in the UK, you got a 1/400 book since you got the "error" letter along with the 1000 copy letter.

Might not sound like a big deal, but that's pretty huge to book collectors.

Almost goes without saying, but GW doesn't appear to care.

Only GW....

Hope this doesn't happen to the only limited codex I care about (Tau) but damn you GW.

Why on earth did they want to go through the effort of doing that?

I beat there are like 2 sets of 1000 copies so they can make more money.

Holy crap this is funny!

If anyone is totally appalled by GW's utter lack of quality control and respect for book collectors, please feel free to send me your book so I can dispose of it properly. I promise not to sell it on ebay.

If anything, this is a nice relic and reminder of GW's incompetence.

This explanation seems quite viable and easily disprovable if someone somehow comes up with a book numbered between 601-800.

If I understand correctly:

US numbers are "correctly" labeled 1-400.
ROW numbers, working on sequence could/should be either 401-600 or 801-1000.
UK numbers are "incorrectly" labeled 1-400 where they should actually been 401-800 or 601-1000.

So books from 601-800 are clearly not in the range of US (1-400) and not ROW (401-600 or 801-1000) and lie within the nonexistent UK numberings.
This is regarding the label/sticker within the book itself disregarding the 'errata'

Pretty strange. Why would they go advertising them as "only 1000 worldwide" in the first place.

I doubt they would have sold any less with being just a vaguely "limited edition" in the tradition of DreadFleet or Dark Vengeance


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 Absolutionis wrote:
If anything, this is a nice relic and reminder of GW's incompetence.

This explanation seems quite viable and easily disprovable if someone somehow comes up with a book numbered between 601-800.

If I understand correctly:

US numbers are "correctly" labeled 1-400.
ROW numbers, working on sequence could/should be either 401-600 or 801-1000.
UK numbers are "incorrectly" labeled 1-400 where they should actually been 401-800 or 601-1000.

So books from 601-800 are clearly not in the range of US (1-400) and not ROW (401-600 or 801-1000) and lie within the nonexistent UK numberings.
This is regarding the label/sticker within the book itself disregarding the 'errata'

This eBay Auction claims to be 799 (no picture though). But it looks like some heavy-duty eBay Powerseller who would likely not want to compromise his reputation.

File under First World Crises...

Really? This is considered an epic deal?

I'm sure for a small fee GW would be happy to tell you what number your book actually is

 Necros wrote:
If anyone is totally appalled by GW's utter lack of quality control and respect for book collectors, please feel free to send me your book so I can dispose of it properly. I promise not to sell it on ebay.

This gave me a good laugh thanks for that.

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
File under First World Crises...

Really? This is considered an epic deal?

Pretty much this. I don't understand the hubbub. I mean, if you absolutely demanded it be in the shrink wrap, never to be opened, then it's a problem. I don't see how a rulebook would appreciate in value much though.

I think the OP stated that it wasn't a big deal, and I don't think I've seen anyone in this thread award it the title of Epic anything.

Just more of the same from Porsche Nottingham, right?

 Absolutionis wrote:

US numbers are "correctly" labeled 1-400.
ROW numbers, working on sequence could/should be either 401-600 or 801-1000.
UK numbers are "incorrectly" labeled 1-400 where they should actually been 401-800 or 601-1000.

So books from 601-800 are clearly not in the range of US (1-400) and not ROW (401-600 or 801-1000) and lie within the nonexistent UK numberings.
This is regarding the label/sticker within the book itself disregarding the 'errata'

Yeah, looks like originally the UK books had the low numbers but then in the reprint they assigned the US the low numbers.

GW ineptitude is hardly surprising anymore.

Meh, I have a US version, #87.

Opened and flipped through.

Yay?

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
File under First World Crises...

Really? This is considered an epic deal?

Nobody seems inordinately excited about it so far...

In the world of collectables the unusual is king, mistakes are worth money and rarity is king

so assuming what's been posted is true the 400 UK copies with their dual numbering (old and new inserts) should be worth more than the US/rest of the world ones which only have the replacement insert/number.

Of cource real collectors would not be trying to sell out so soon anyway.......

I'm not sure how having a different slip of paper in the packaging constitutes a whole different version of the codex, but then again I never did get the whole OCD collector business.

Like I said, it's not a big deal, but to collectors who do care about things like these, it matters a good bit. And really, those are exactly the people that GW is probably wanting to cater to. Oops.

im sorry but i cant work out what this thread is about..someone please explain.

rustproof wrote:
im sorry but i cant work out what this thread is about..someone please explain.

GW releases a "limited edition" that people overpay for because of the advertised exclusivity. Proof of exclusivity are the numbers in the books. Two people were found with the same number. GW offers an explanation and admits incompetence. End.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm not sure how having a different slip of paper in the packaging constitutes a whole different version of the codex,

The same way that a Transformers Generations Dirge with a Decepticon symbol missing a triangle is different than a Dirge WITH the triangle/correct symbol.

It's something that doesn't matter a jot except to a select group of people.

And yes, I own both varieties of Dirge because I'm a consumer whore style collector.

I don't understand why people still spend money on GW's "limited edition" books. In my experience, they hold their value about as well as a regular book - not at all.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/W40k-book-Rulebook-Limited-edition-no-5221-/251160525938?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item3a7a557c72&nma=true&si=xC4kQP7Sn516xqtiPVH6ztRPZwY%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Limited-Edition-40K-Rulebook-case-OOP-/160887916434?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item2575aac792

Eric

My local GW manager told me that certain books have a certificate inside the shrink wrap due to a packing error.
The message he got was to tell customers with copies that they should destroy the certificate inside the wrap and keep the one that came in an envelope with the book as this is the correct certificate/number.

I wondered why mine came with a cert in the envelope, ive not opened the sealed book yet but the one in the envelope says 0922.

Has the feel of some upper middle manager making some noise and demanding it be fixed. Nothing unique to GW. Standard corporate incompetence you hear of all around the world.

Read the business section of any major paper and you will see this a run of the mill problem where someone creates a whole lot of headache because its appearance displeases them.

Damn. I clicked on this thread thinking there was a version of the codex where they gave Ahriman Divinination.

 Lorizael wrote:
My local GW manager told me that certain books have a certificate inside the shrink wrap due to a packing error.
The message he got was to tell customers with copies that they should destroy the certificate inside the wrap and keep the one that came in an envelope with the book as this is the correct certificate/number.

But the customer didn't destroy the certificate, did he?

I was there the day the strength of men failed.

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
File under First World Crises...

Really? This is considered an epic deal?

Indeed. We should really cease all discussion about gaming and related subjects and refocus Dakka so that it's purely about discussing things that actually matter in the real world.

Because geeks whining about geeky things is apparently just sick and wrong, I guess. Whining that, needless to say, doesn't really seem to be occurring much in this thread, as it's already been pointed out, but why let that stop us from complaining about it?

Hahahhahahahahahahaha.
*wipes tears*

Yeah, those things would never be "collectable" anyway.