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HQ:
CCS, 70pts - 4 Flamers
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops #1: Veteran Squad
Veteran Squad, 115pts - 3 Plasmas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops #2: Veteran Squad
Veteran Squad, 115pts - 3 Plasmas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops #3: Veteran Squad (in Vendetta)
Veteran Squad, 100pts - 3 Meltas

Fast Attack:
Vendetta, 130pts

Heavy Support #1:
LRBT, 150pts

Heavy Support #2:
LRBT, 150pts


Total 995 points, 35 soldiers, 3 Chimeras, Vendetta, 2 LRBT

What do you think?

For a 1,000 point list? Pretty good.

Only thing I can say, is that be careful with your Chimeras. With 6th Editions mech rules, Chimeras are a lot less durable now. And with only 3, they will get shot to hell by anything that isn't shooting at your Russes. Long AV-10 sides make flanking shots easy, and you can be glanced to death by bolters (which I have seen happen). And thus, once those guys are out of their transports they will die fast (as 30 Guardsmen aren't hard to kill).

You do have promise by throwing the last set of Vets in a Vendetta. Do you play on boards with lots of terrain? If so, be a bit careful. Two things would have to happen. Either the Vendetta zooms past and grav-chutes them out (possibly killing them from scatter, keep aware of terrain placement) or it will enter hover mode to let them out, but be a sitting duck right in the middle of the enemy (who can now shoot at full BS at it. Oh, and believe me they will).

Your Russes hopefully can draw the fire though. Hopefully, the enemy will shoot up the AV14 before the AV12 allowing them to get in range. If not, then you would have to move the Russes in support ASAP (as, 25 men on foot with Plasma will be killed fast)

Other than that, solid list. You could use some more AT, as 3 Meltas and a Vendetta is all you got in those regards, but it can work if your strategy is solid going into the game.

EDIT: What does your local meta look like?

A lot of locals are playing either IG, SM or variant (GK, SW etx), or CSM, a few play 'Nids, Orks or Necrons, and one or two play Eldar or Dark Eldar.

Not too many fliers around here, though, except for some Vends in the local IG lists.

Any more comments?

If your leman russ are squadroned I would unsquad them so they can fire at separate targets. Other than that I would say solid list, good job!

Thanks!

Looks solid to me! There is no such thing as a 'perfect list' but this looks senseible, smart and would like to play against it. Once Tau have flyers that is :-)

Thanks!

The best thing about this list is that I could upgrade from 500pts to 1,000pts by simply adding a ten or so Veteran figures, a Vendetta and two LRBTs. Easy and fast!

I would have spammed more Meltavets in Chimeras (Russes tend to be too slow in AV12-heavy lists), but this list looks OK otherwise. Just watch out for enemy vehicles, especially if you're unlucky with your reserve rolls. Personally, I wouldn't start will all my dedicated AT in reserve (LRBTs are good at doing damage, but notoriously bad at destroying vehicles).

Thanks for the input!

Updated list:

HQ:
CCS, 100pts - 3 Plasmas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops #1: Veteran Squad
Veteran Squad, 90pts - 3 Meltas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops #2: Veteran Squad
Veteran Squad, 90pts - 3 Meltas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops #3: Veteran Squad
Veteran Squad, 90pts - 3 Meltas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Fast Attack:
Vendetta, 130pts

Heavy Support #1:
LRBT, 150pts

Heavy Support #2:
LRBT, 150pts

Total 995 points, 35 soldiers, 4 Chimeras, Vendetta, 2 LRBT

What do you think?

So, how effective is my updated list?

Excuse me, is there no unit riding in the Vendetta? Looks better though.

Is the third Vet squad better in a Chimera or in the Vendetta?

vendetta.

I'm not too keen on those naked russes. A third of your points thrown at only two battlecannon shots per turn doesn't seem that great. I'd do one of two things.

Firstly, you could ditch the third chimera as has been proposed. You'd then have enough points to give those russes some sort of upgrades, perhaps into a pair of exterminators with multimelta sponsons, or exterminators with sponsons bolters and a hull lascannon, or something.

Secondly, you could drop the vendetta. This would allow you to shower points on your russes, like by taking two las/mm punishers or whatever. Alternately, if you can find the points somewhere, you're in striking range of adding a third russ of some sort, which will be pretty difficult to handle at this points level.

It's risky to drop expensive Veteran squads out of Vendettas. I've lost lots of units attempting to do this. It also makes the Vendetta have to think about something other than killing (positioning the veterans) which isn't a good thing for a powerful unit that only tends to get 3 round of shots off anyhow. I guess I'm saying this for no reason, because I don't have a suggestion for how to remove 55 points to get that squad a Chimera. If it's possible do it, I would. Other than that I love the list. I run very similar lists myself. Lately, all Plasma, no Melta on the Vets, though. I let Manticores and Vendettas deal with heavy armor (13-14). When I use them, my Melta-Vets always become suicide units. I have much better luck keeping the plasma squads alive. This edition, they are just soooo good. I try to field 22 plasmas in any games between 1750 and 2000 points.

6x vet squads with 3x plasmas and a CCS with 4 plasmas. All of them ride Chimeras with hull Heavy Flamers and Multi-Lasers. Comes to a 1215 point base that I use for al my mech lists in 6th

Updated list:

HQ:
CCS, 100pts - 3 Plasmas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops #1: Veteran Squad
Veteran Squad, 90pts - 2 Plasmas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops #2: Veteran Squad
Veteran Squad, 90pts - 2 Plasmas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops #3: Veteran Squad (in Vendetta)
Veteran Squad, 80pts - 2 Meltas

Fast Attack:
Vendetta, 130pts

Heavy Support #1:
LR Executioner, 190pts

Heavy Support #2:
LR Executioner, 190pts

Total 1,000 points, 35 soldiers, 3 Chimeras, Vendetta, 2 LR Executioners

better, except now you don't really have anti-tank. That vendetta gets shot down, and it's likely taking the vets with it. Then you'll have nothing but plasma to handle vehicles, which is bad.

You're on the right track, I'd just re-arrange things for better anti-tank.

HQ:
CCS, 100pts - 3 Plasmas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops #1: Veteran Squad
Veteran Squad, 90pts - 2 Plasmas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops #2: Veteran Squad
Veteran Squad, 90pts - 2 Plasmas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops #3: Veteran Squad (in Vendetta)
Veteran Squad, 80pts - 2 Meltas

Fast Attack:
Vendetta, 130pts

Heavy Support #1:
LR Executioner, 229pts - Multi-melta

Heavy Support #2:
Manticore, 160pts

Total 1,000 points, 35 soldiers, 3 Chimeras, Vendetta, LR Executioner, Manticore

Better now?


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I am a little concerned, though, as that LR Executioner hogs up almost one quarter if the points in one tank... Maybe replace it and the Vendetta-rider infantry with two Demolishers?

I think the Executioner should have plasma Sponsons or nothing. No Multi-Melta. Keep it back at 36". In 1000 points what's the chance of fighting an overwhelmingt amountof TEQs anyhow? If you do, that means not flyer or tank heavy, so you can use the Vendetta, all the Plasma and Melta Guns, etc on them. I'd say you don't need the Executioner that much, although it's good at what it does. If you think you'll fight some weaker armies, I'd consider going LRBT and a Griffon. I think Griffons come in real handy in small games. Worth the 75 points.

Careful with executioners with plasma sponsons. Gives the tank 5 chances a turn to glance itself with "gets hot"

Otherwise I'm digging the list. For 200 points, you could take a basilisk and griffon in an ordnance battery. Gives you a re-rollable str 6/AP 4 barrage weapon followed by a str9/ap3 barrage weapon. plus they don't need line of sight.

Only the plasma sponsors have the Gets Hot! rule, the actual Executioner cannon doesn't.

HQ:
CCS, 100pts - 3 Plasmas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops #1: Veteran Squad
Veteran Squad, 90pts - 2 Plasmas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops #2: Veteran Squad
Veteran Squad, 90pts - 2 Plasmas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops #3: Veteran Squad (in Vendetta)
Veteran Squad, 90pts - 3 Meltas

Fast Attack:
Vendetta, 130pts

Heavy Support #1:
LRBT, 150pts

Heavy Support #2:
Manticore, 160pts

Heavy Support #3:
Griffion, 75pts

Total 995 points, 35 soldiers, 3 Chimeras, Vendetta, LRBT, Manticore, Griffon

Better now?

I think so. It just depends on what you are up against. They are all GOOD lists my friend. Better is an opinion. I would personally run your final list to a tournament anytime. it's pretty mean for 1000 points, but they all were. I like any excuse to run my Griffon. This list has some armor saturation, plenty of high strength attacks, good anti-MEQ / TEQ. I like it.

Thanks!


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Final list (fixed point cost errors0:

HQ:
CCS, 95pts - 3 Plasmas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops #1: Veteran Squad
Veteran Squad, 100pts - 2 Plasmas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops #2: Veteran Squad
Veteran Squad, 100pts - 2 Plasmas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops #3: Veteran Squad (in Vendetta)
Veteran Squad, 100pts - 3 Meltas

Fast Attack:
Vendetta, 130pts

Heavy Support #1:
LRBT, 150pts

Heavy Support #2:
Manticore, 160pts

Total 1,000 points, 35 soldiers, 3 Chimeras, Vendetta, LRBT, Manticore

Another update, due to the discussion HERE:

HQ:
CCS, 70 - 2 Meltas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Elite:
Stormtrooper Squad, 105pts, 2 Meltas, Airborne Assault

Troops #1: Veteran Squad
Veteran Squad, 100pts - 2 Plasmas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops #2: Veteran Squad
Veteran Squad, 100pts - 2 Plasmas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Fast Attack:
Vendetta, 130pts

Heavy Support #1:
LR Demolisher, 165pts

Heavy Support #2:
Manticore, 160pts

Total 995 points, 30 soldiers, 3 Chimeras, Vendetta, LR Demolisher, Manticore

why run the Vets and the CCS without the max Special Weapons its like ordering a cheese burgur without CHEESE!!! Who does that lol.

Try running something like this use the Manticores from turn 1 to blow AV13-14 & the Plasma Guns will kill everything else. If you want to kill flyers order bring it down on the plasma guns and re-roll for 6's if guys are hiding in cover order the re-roll cover saves order and torch them with the heavy flamers

HQ- CCS, 4x Plasma Guns, Krak Grenades, Chimera Multi-Laser Hull Heavy Flamer
170pts

T- Veteran Squad, 3x Plasma Guns, Chimera, Multi Laser, Heavy Flamer
170pts

T- Veteran Squad, 3x Plasma Guns, Chimera, Multi Laser, Heavy Flamer
170pts

T- Veteran Squad, 3x Plasma Guns, Chimera, Multi Laser, Heavy Flamer
170pts

HS- Manticore, Heavy Bolter
160pts

HS- Manticore, Heavy Bolter
160pts

1000pts

Thanks for the tip!

"Final" list, just as Sinji has suggested:

HQ:
CCS, 110 - 4 Plasmas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops #1: Veteran Squad
Veteran Squad, 115pts - 3 Plasmas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops #2: Veteran Squad
Veteran Squad, 115pts - 3 Plasmas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops #3: Veteran Squad
Veteran Squad, 115pts - 3 Plasmas
Chimera, 55pts - Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Heavy Support #1:
Manticore, 160pts

Heavy Support #2:
Manticore, 160pts

Total 1,000 points, 35 soldiers, 4 Chimeras, 2 Manticores.

While this list has strong anti-armour abilities (TONS of Plasmas for AV 12 and lower, 2 Manticores for AV 13-14) and a lot of mobility, I'm not very satisfied with its anti-air abilities (would BiD with the Plasmas work?), and it seems to lack big fat high-AV armour to draw enemy fire from the Chimeras.

What do you think?

scary, would roll my Death Guard without too much fuss