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So my opponent had a quad gun being manned by a SM Tactical squad. I had a rhino and declared a tank shock vs. the gun. First of all is this allowed? It is artillery right so its legal?

The quad gun was my declared target NOT the squad behind it. The gun can not move and has no leadership value for the test. But it does have a toughness and wounds value so what happens?

Can it be fired as a death or glory on the automated BS 2? Or does it just die? Can a vehicle even move onto it? You can move over an A line so what about the gun?

Even though the squad was touching the gun we didnt allow the SM touching it to death or glory with it or else if he failed the marine and it would die. What do you think? How wrong were we... lol

Quad gun is classed as a gun emplacement so no its not artillery. As it is battlefield terrain I would say you cannot tank shock it, just like you cant tank shock the aegis line. It doesnt have a automated fire option either.

Moving over the line for vehicles counts as any terrain, dangerous, so a dangerous terrain test is needed

So you can drive over a quad gun at any time as any other piece of terrain? That's hilarious!

Could the tact squad fire the gun if I tank shocked them?

Can you stop movement on top of a quad gun then?

In the tyranids FAQ they have a drop pod thats called a mysetic spore which is like a quad gun except it doesnt need to be manned and it has wounds. You are allowed to tank shock the spore and it has to death to glory. If it fails to stop or destroy the tank Then the spore would die. So with the quad gun its got wounds so I would have assume so.

The quad gun is a gun emplacement: therefor according to the rules for gun emplacements the quad gun can be hurt by shooting or close combat attacks. Artillery units are allowed to have someone man their gun to fire at the opponents vehicle but since this is a gun emplacement and the marine squad isnt effected as you mentioned then the quad would just fire at its bs2. And according to tank shock rules the quad gun is only allowed 1 shot.

The spore is an interesting example.

We thought that it should be destroyed as having a wound value clearly shows it can be destroyed in other ways. What we did was when it ended on the gun it was destroyed but I wanted to know if this was correct.

Emplaced weapons on building only have the bs2 if no one is manning them.

Pg 85 second paragraph first sentence. Wouldnt the quad gun be conisdered an enemy model? Im pretty sure the quad gun can be crushed if it has wounds, and can be hurt in CC, Also you would then have a rhino just sitting ontop of a quad gun.

tankboy145 wrote:
Emplaced weapons on building only have the bs2 if no one is manning them.

Pg 85 second paragraph first sentence. Wouldnt the quad gun be conisdered an enemy model? Im pretty sure the quad gun can be crushed if it has wounds, and can be hurt in CC, Also you would then have a rhino just sitting ontop of a quad gun.

That's basically what I am asking as it can't move because its placed befor the battle. I will park on an enemy quad gun all day long lol

That is hysterical if you can just park on top of the quad gun. Totally doing this until I'm told otherwise!

katfude wrote:
That is hysterical if you can just park on top of the quad gun. Totally doing this until I'm told otherwise!

My question is can I be shot by it while on top of it?! lol

If i balance on top of the barrels I guess I would get moved when it pivoted on the turret.


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Since your technically in B2B with it maybe you can shoot it while parked on top!

Technically you can both park on it and be shot by it. No rule currently states otherwise but as people pointed out it is terrain with wounds. Tank shocking it is not covered so by RAW no you can't tank shock it. There is no rule restricting what models can fire it so currently yes a vehicle can fire gun emplacements.

So any model can sit on top of it? I can deploy a land raider on it? Awesome! lol

Infantry can be on it too then.

Personally if someone tells me I cant tank shock it then I will park a leman russ on top of it and blast my opponent units that think they can hide. No one but monstrous creatures can assault my tank since it will probably be to high up and since it would technically also be higher up blast weapons would have to choose to fire at the guys on the ground or my tank that's sitting on top the quad. I mean how are you not able to tank shock something that has wounds and can be hurt in CC?

You have a slight issue with parking tanks on it and firing as it is a vehicle firing the GE you need to draw LoS from the weapon not the model.

You just don tsit on the tip of the barrel but on the long part. The model can swivel down and you sit on the long part. And its the model that needs los not the gun.

Oh i wasnt talking about the tank firing the quad gun, I was refering to my battle cannon blasting guys that are hiding. But if I had to the quad would be fired at the right target.

Couldn't the leman russ fire it along with its other weapons? Tanks are not limited to just 1 gun! lol

Infantry models use LoS from the model but vehicles use LoS from the weapons. GE state to use shooting rules as normal.

Yes but if the tank is on top and can pivot to fire, which the gun can too, then he shouldnt have any issue firing it other than balancing a land raider on it! lol

 Icelord wrote:
Couldn't the leman russ fire it along with its other weapons? Tanks are not limited to just 1 gun! lol

GUn emplacement says that a model can fire the gun emplacement instead of its own "weapon" so a leman russ will give up one bolter weapon to fire the quad gun since it doesnt say "weapons"

Lol nice.