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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 03:49:24
Subject: british and USA combined army query
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Dakka Veteran
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Can i use a British tank company with a usa inf company
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/06/21 16:03:16
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 06:53:16
Subject: army?
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1st Lieutenant
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If you look at the army books you'll see what you can have in an army. Usually it is one nation, but there are lists in books like 'market garden' and 'Cassino' which allow mixed US and British forces.
Use easy army to download the lists for cheap and have a play Automatically Appended Next Post: If you want a cheap army to expand from open fire my suggestion would be this
Irish guards 1750
2 HQ shermans
3 shermans 1 firefly
3 shermans 1 firefly
3 section US para platoon
(All from open fire)
3 Sherman 1 firefly (1 box bbx08)
Joe vandeleur (br885)
3 universal carriers (1 blister br210)
That's about 30-40£
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 13:36:53
Subject: army?
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Dakka Veteran
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I want t a British tank company and a usa rifle company no mixing of units. i wanted to no if i could field my British tanks company and my usa rifle company together in a game as they will be to ther own companys and i will not mix units. i just want to use both my army at the same time and not just one our the other
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 14:07:28
Subject: army?
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1st Lieutenant
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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Well...now we get into some interesting things here. By the rules, you can only use one army at a time. So either/or, not both.
But, if you play me for instance (probably not going to happen, but you live in the US who knows) and you ask me if you can use both armies as long the total points add up to the amount we agreed. So, if we play 2000 points, you get 1000 points Brits and 1000 points US Inf for instance (or a mixed ratio) but I get full 2000 points Russian.
Mind you, that's not technically legal from the games perspective, but I personally would let you do that as I know Brits and US worked alongside each other quite a bit. If you asked US and Germans, I may say no.
So to sum it up, anything is legal as long as your opponent allows it. Not quite sure how that would break up balance, but it would be interesting to try
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 14:22:10
Subject: army?
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1st Lieutenant
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There are rules somewhere in the rulebook for multiple companies, but the problem is if either company breaks you loose the game.
So if you play 2K points and have 1000 points I each then you could realistically lose 500 points, break, and it's game over!
I woul stick to one company with both options
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 14:39:07
Subject: Re:army?
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Major
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What about the Allies rule?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 14:53:00
Subject: army?
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Dakka Veteran
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That what i thought so i wasted money on building my British tank company i did same thing with my Germans buillt a ss company and a par company that i can't field at the same time. this stinks what a waste of my money and time
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 15:03:33
Subject: army?
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Fixture of Dakka
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You can field any two or more companies at the same time. Traditionally they both must be from the same group, Axis or Allies, from the same period and from the same theatre. Although only bein from the same period is binding in the rules.
It's perfectly ok to ignore the company morale rule for multi company battles if both players think it will make the game better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 16:53:29
Subject: army?
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1st Lieutenant
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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Or if all else fails you can just play two armies and alternate which one you play...
The whole company morale thing is the reason why I don't like fielding split armies, as it's much easier to run off the board and lose. But if both players agree to ignore it for the sake of the game, that works
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 17:45:19
Subject: army?
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Major
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zilka86 wrote:That what i thought so i wasted money on building my British tank company i did same thing with my Germans buillt a ss company and a par company that i can't field at the same time. this stinks what a waste of my money and time
Most diffently did not waste your money,Run 2nd SS Panzer division(Has falls allies in the force org.).i am running both .The only thing i can say is that it works best when you play high point games.Also like was said berfore just make sure that they are from the same era same side and if possible same theatre,d day,market garden etc. Germans are probably the biggest for this.Look and any intel book and you will see that they had alot of allies,HEer,FAlls etc. this works great for them in low pts game. As for the Allies i have found that allies work best in the big games 2500pts plus. Just kinda think of it as another player on your team. just remeber that they count as seperate companies.
my favorite is to run my 101st as a company and 327th glider infantry company as allies in our 3000pt plus games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 19:11:06
Subject: army?
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Dakka Veteran
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Just up mad that i can't run them together as do different companys fighting together i guess i just hace four different companys i can use
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 22:02:46
Subject: Re:army?
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Major
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What kind of BRit tanks do you have? because you can use the Americans as dismounted cav and use the brit tanks. i got the list from Monty cassino.in a way i am kind of in your boat atm.but opposite i got brit rifle but no armor .So i have to use my American Armor and artillery.
Here i got one even better for you i forgot about this, use your American rifles as glider infantry,it was not until MArket garden and after that they were issued para uniforms. i think this will work.I use alot of American rifle as my glider infantry and they wore the standerd gi uniform for d day.. So now you should be good. so you did not waste your time or money.We just need to do some brain storming.
Here is a link for them. What i did for my models was just freely mixed the paras and them together over time.
here is a link for you to read about them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glider_infantry
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 22:02:52
Subject: army?
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Dakka Veteran
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I guess i should have stick to just one type of army
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/21 02:40:51
Subject: army?
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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I wouldn't say that you should stick to one type of army...
For example, if you have the german infantry from OPEN FIRE! then you can easily run a Grenadierkompanie... a little later you can pick up a few trucks and 251's and run a Panzergrenadierkompanie. Throw in a box or two of Panzer III/IV's and you can also run a Panzerkompanie.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/21 05:30:46
Subject: army?
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1st Lieutenant
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I'm just trying to work out why you want to field two companies at the same time
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/21 11:11:09
Subject: Re:army?
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I see both of your points,The added and buidling of a force .so that it maybe used in different company combos,, or like me and looking for a combined arms and the Allies rules for running two companies.
i guess it would be better for us now to be more spcific. Or just doesnt get org list and the Allies rule.But they must understand that this is a company sized based game and is not a regimental size game,we are not 6mm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/21 15:29:47
Subject: army?
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Dakka Veteran
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I wanted to do a battle of the bulge game. ware British and usa forces arr trying to be back the Germans. also i. have a nuff ss inf to field 3company one company of arty one company of tanks panzer 4 and Panthers.one of heavy tanks then a company our two worth of stugs jagpanthers jagpanzer. Then i also have 2company of german paras with a heavy weapons commpany mortars and hmg 2platoons of each. i field all my ss a lot . now for my British i just have open fre tanks and a boxs of Cromwells . then i have the usa inf company box puls some 75mm and 105 Automatically Appended Next Post: Now y can't i field all my companys in a game
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/21 15:37:33
Subject: Re:army?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
New Zealand
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It sounds like you're confusing companies with platoons.
I'd recommend you get your hands on an army list before you spend any more money on models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/21 16:01:40
Subject: army?
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Dakka Veteran
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Iam not i no how to build my army got my list off easysrmy am not buying a 50buck codex that lets you just run one typ of army in only a short time period so you would need a lot off books in oder to play ther not getting my like gw did all the codexs you need to play. but yes i have that companys i like to field at once i had to be the germans so ever one else in are group has me to play against in till i built my germans ther was no one to play against in are group of 5people because we all had allies armys so i went all in built a ss battlion of tanks andd inf and arty and a battliob of paras so now ever one can play
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/21 18:52:32
Subject: Re:british and USA combined army query
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Major
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You can run any list against another list as long as it is the same era. As for the bulge that was mostly a American german fight.it should not matter to the other players as long asyou are not running a Historical campaign.We runalot of one off games where it is usually 101st Airborne list from nuts vs. D day or operationBAgration SS. Heck even a few games of LW Soviet tank company vs. Nuts paras and glider infantry.
So just keep running your germans as you are devils charge das reich. As for your allies run them as market garden Glider infantry.Fight them in any operation you like. that is fun of flames of war is the what if theese force fought each other.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/21 22:07:17
Subject: british and USA combined army query
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Dakka Veteran
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The allies never fight each other so you need a German player in your gaming group to play against. I happen to be that German player in are group so i play a lot if games against 3our4 players vs me so i have. a huge ss army. if i us all my Germans at the same time like i do a lot i must have regiment of troops.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/22 05:07:57
Subject: british and USA combined army query
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1st Lieutenant
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Someone else gets Germans too?
Seriously we frequently have games like LW Finns vs UK or Hungarians vs US.
The bit I like about FoW LW is how you can have a Normandy force, add some new toys and then it's an Ardennes/market garden force
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/22 05:44:41
Subject: british and USA combined army query
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Dakka Veteran
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No one else wants to be the germans because ther the bad guys. And the finns never fight the uk so how does that work. Automatically Appended Next Post: U also can't have friendly armies fight each other
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/23 10:26:59
Subject: british and USA combined army query
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Lieutenant Colonel
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Where I am everyone has Germans...
They are the cheapest to collect.
Tournament last year 75% of players were Germans, it was dull as hell, in 4 games out of 5, my Panzer Lehr fought Panthers or Tigers needless to say my Mechanised Infantry just had to dig in..
I was suicidal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/23 13:51:17
Subject: british and USA combined army query
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Major
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zilka86 wrote:The allies never fight each other so you need a German player in your gaming group to play against. I happen to be that German player in are group so i play a lot if games against 3our4 players vs me so i have. a huge ss army. if i us all my Germans at the same time like i do a lot i must have regiment of troops.
Allies fight each other it is called traing maneouvers or wargames. Their is qoute in the rulebook about it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/26 14:30:05
Subject: british and USA combined army query
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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zilka86 wrote:The allies never fight each other so you need a German player in your gaming group to play against. I happen to be that German player in are group so i play a lot if games against 3our4 players vs me so i have. a huge ss army. if i us all my Germans at the same time like i do a lot i must have regiment of troops.
You don't *need* anything. You can play any period army against any period army. I play leagues all the time and seldom is there an even balance between allied and axis armies. Also you play who shows up on a given league day and there is no guarantee that you will even have axis AND allied forces there at the same time. Also I want to play everyone in the league to test my abilities, not just the same axis players over and over. In our EW league my brits fought the Polish, Russians, French, other brits, Germans and Italians. It all depends on who is available to play with. Sure the allies *shouldn't* face each other, but that only works in a perfect world.
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