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Summary of Natfka's rumours:
- Tyranids (incl. plastic Hive Guard)
- Orks (incl plastic commandos)
- Dark Elves
- IG (incl. plastic Steel Legion and super heavy)
plus an Armageddon Supplement incl Steel Legion, Space Marine and Ork units
- Bretonnia
- Space Wolves
- New 9th Fantasy Edition (starter box Imperium vs. Orcs)

Anonymous source on faeit212 wrote:November will be Nidvember; Plastic Hive Guard Box released (corrected)

December: No coment, Hobbit and new Terrain

January: Ork Codex; Plastic Kommandoz & Warboss Plastic Kit

February: Dark Elves Armybook

March: Imperial Guard; three Plastic Kits for Steellegion & a Turretless Tank Kit, new Steellegion Character (no Yarrik!) Codex-Focus is Cadia & Armageddon

April: Breton Armybook

May: Space Wolves, there will be a 13th Great company & Thousand Sons Supplement parallel release near end of the Year Focus of the SW Supplement is the Fight again Tzeentch Forces

June: Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition with Empire vs. Orks & Goblins

Anonymous source on faeit212 wrote:Next Year Warhammer Fantasy 9.Edition will have Empire versus Orks & Goblins.

Imperial Guard will release in March 2014 with Steel Legion Plastic Kits and a new Superheavy Tank base on the Baneblade. Baneblade & all other Superheavies will be in the Codex.

Anonymous source on faeit212 wrote:orks release in march.

(Yeah, obviously those last two contradict each other.)

Anonymous source on faeit212 wrote:GW is planning a "re-release" of the 3rd edition Codex Armageddon! That will be a huge release for 40K "more than half a year away" according to my friend. It will include 5 supplements: Warzone Armageddon (scenarios), Supplement: Salamanders, Supplement: Steel Legion, Supplement: Ghazghull's Horde and Supplement: Orc Kult of Speed. Everything will be released in one wave.

Each supplement will be accompanied by a very limited number of new releases:
Salamanders - Special Terminator Squad combining Thunder Hammer and Storm Bolters (no shields). Has access to a special weapon that's a "pimped out mix of Heavy Flamer and Multi Melta"
Steel Legion - Griffon/Salamander combi kit, new Finecast characters
Ghazghull's Horde - Nobs in Mega Armour (Plastic), Orkimedes (Finecast)
Speed Freaks - War Buggy, Wazdakka Gutsmek (Plastic)

Keep in mind that the following includes examples not meant as rumours (see last sentence):

Anonymous source on faeit212 wrote:There's merit to your rumor. However to poke some holes:

The Salamanders squad is for the pre-heresy book coming christmas. They're modified tartaros pattern terminators. Kind of like ornate "artificer" versions.

Imperial Guards will have access to all their tanks in plastic with the release of their new codex.

Nobz in Mega Armor and new War Buggies and Traks are getting new models with their new codex also.

Supplements will not be providing new model kits until after all of the 6th edition codexes are up to date. Furthermore, if a new unit is introduced, it will be available to the core codex as well.

Example 1) An update of an old kit that is the center of the supplement:a new khorne berserker kit alongside a World Eater's supplement. This kit, while a targeted release, is still available to any Chaos Player.
Example 2) If it introduces an entirely new unit that has previously never had rules, it would specifically say that it's an XYZ option for the parent dex: A new breed of tyranid, with some cool rules in a Hive Fleet supplement. While it may be a troops choice for the supplement army, it is also a Fast Attack (or something) choice for the parent codex.

The Supplements will often introduce new ways to configure units. Either with different wargear, size of squad, force organization position, dedicated transport options, or cool army rules

Example: Supplement: "Hammer of Dorn," not simply Supplement: "Imperial Fists," this supplement could hark back towards the 4th edition Space Marine Codex. Fluff wise this book would talk about Lysander's specific fleet and methodology. Rules wise it would make Assault Terminators Elites, and Shooting Termiantors Heavy Support, while making you roll once for all terminators to enter from deep strike, and would do so with a reduced scatter. This would create a very specialized force, one that would be illegal normally (up to 6 terminator squads), alongside some unique rules (deep strike at once, reduced scatter), and would probably inspire some new armies to be made centered around it, but it's still not giving Imperial Fist only models that make people feel pigeon holed into a specific codex or colour scheme, etc.

The idea here is that people shouldn't feel like they have to get a supplement. Anything that's in a supplement, they have access to (model wise). No one is left out.

I hope that makes sense, it was a bit of a rant.

P.S. while new khorne berserkers are on the menu to be reviewed, there's no new tyranid supplement unit, or a supplement for "Hammer of Dorn," those were just to illustrate my point.

Interesting stuff, superheavies in the Guard Codex seems unlikely however...

Don't really buy these rumors.
Nids in Nov with Hive guard in plastic, OK, possible.

Hobbit in December with holiday stuff? Sure.

January as Orks? Don't see it. That would stack 40K releases with no fantasy in between, That and 2 xenos stacked followed by 2 Imperium stacked seems odd. Plastic Kommandoes seems plausable, but plasticwarboss kit would mean a return to multi-part plastic HQs. And other kits are needed/would sell more- Meganobz, Buggies/Trakks, potentially Squiggoth as a big MC, Deffkoptas.

IG with Steel Legion focus? Why do 3 plastic kits (I would assume infantry, command, heavy weapon box) for a new regiment and a new superheavy when there are still a number of kits that need plastic models period?- Hydra, Griffon, Medusa, Colossus. And a new superheavy on the Baneblade chassis? Only weapon fits left are the Stormsword with plasma blastgun and potentially inferno blastgun. And why add a new kit when they just merged the baneblade and shodowsword kit? And Baneblades and variants in the codex? Will they add Superheavy rules for it in the codex as well? And what about the 10" main gun? Or the D Weapon on the Shadowsword. And what slot(s) would it take up?

The "rerelease of Armageddon" is also odd, as 4 supplements at once, and a warzone that is already contained in the Apoc rulebook.

Only rumor I put weight on is the last one posted. And why won't Faeit give some sort of differentiating pseudonyms to the various anonymous sources so we can tell the real posters from the junk?

Orks in January would be perfect! I think it's a bit far-fetched though. Nice to see Bretonnia finally showing up on the radar too.

A new plastic regiment for Guard would be nice, but I can't see it happeneing until they run out completely of kits to make. 6th edition codices tend to have 4-5 plastic kits, and that alone would eat up over half. They also are adamant about getting everything released in some form, and Guard have more than enough missing to release.

 -Loki- wrote:
A new plastic regiment for Guard would be nice, but I can't see it happeneing until they run out completely of kits to make. 6th edition codices tend to have 4-5 plastic kits, and that alone would eat up over half. They also are adamant about getting everything released in some form, and Guard have more than enough missing to release.

IG need new plastics dreadfully though. Their proportions are pretty bad. I wish they'd make Mordians, but we all know that would never happen.

 Kroothawk wrote:
- New 9th Fantasy Edition (starter box Imperium vs. Orcs)

That sounds brutally lopsided.

Plastic Steel Legion? Sounds like wish listing.

 Howard A Treesong wrote:
Plastic Steel Legion? Sounds like wish listing.

or a way to generate a ton of money. I dont see a need to give any of the current guard armies an updated model. Nothing says MOAR money like new sexy models

Ever since the Wraithknight came out, I've been expecting the IG codex to have the Baneblade in it. Knights are already Epic units, the Baneblade isn't much of a stretch after that, and, in all honesty, as long as it doesn't have D weapons, a 525pt tank with a big blast is hardly overpowered at most normal play levels (yeah, the tank is scary, but at 500something points good luck fitting much else in if you want more than one, in which case you're better off just taking 3 LRBT's anyway). I'd rather this not be true, the Baneblade has long been the archetypal IG "Apocalypse" unit, but it would surprise me more at this point if the tank were not in the codex than if it were.

Thinks april should get here soon,so my knights finally have updated rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 Vaktathi wrote:
Ever since the Wraithknight came out, I've been expecting the IG codex to have the Baneblade in it. Knights are already Epic units, the Baneblade isn't much of a stretch after that, and, in all honesty, as long as it doesn't have D weapons, a 525pt tank with a big blast is hardly overpowered at most normal play levels (yeah, the tank is scary, but at 500something points good luck fitting much else in if you want more than one, in which case you're better off just taking 3 LRBT's anyway). I'd rather this not be true, the Baneblade has long been the archetypal IG "Apocalypse" unit, but it would surprise me more at this point if the tank were not in the codex than if it were.

Well, with the Warzones etc, it looks like GW have at least a thought of a plan to support Apocalypse beyond gaking out the book, going "buy it now!" and walking away.

So it stands to reason that a plastic Superheavy doesn't need to feature in the codex to get released, especially as all signs point to the fact that GW are now a one trick pony in essence, and a big push towards Apoc would certainly be one way to try and keep people spending.

New Ork and Guard stuff, hooray. Although Orks have some pretty alright rules with the 4th ed. codex.

May want to edit the "New 9th edition line"...

Unless there is the imperium instead of the empire, and so on.

would love to see the baneblade in the imperial guard codex. Nothing says 'feth you we're the imperial guard' quite like a baneblade.

Harry and Hastings from Warseer have a far better track record than faeit212, and neither of them have Bretonians coming in the foreseeable future. Both of them have Dwarves in early 2014.

The day that GW starts making Steel Legion in plastic...is the day that I start making a guard army. Not holding my breath though...

Saldiven wrote:
Harry and Hastings from Warseer have a far better track record than faeit212, and neither of them have Bretonians coming in the foreseeable future. Both of them have Dwarves in early 2014.

Agreed, but neither of those guys have said anything in a fair few months with regard to releases to my knowledge. I believe it has been known for GW to move release dates around, so while I would still trust H+H primarily, there's room for doubt in this instance.

Unless either one is lurking and fancies dropping a hint?

Saldiven wrote:
Harry and Hastings from Warseer have a far better track record than faeit212, and neither of them have Bretonians coming in the foreseeable future.

It's the inclusion of the Bretonnians that make me suspicious of these rumors. If they're released before 2015, I'll be stunned and amazed.

 ironicsilence wrote:

 Howard A Treesong wrote:
Plastic Steel Legion? Sounds like wish listing.

or a way to generate a ton of money. I dont see a need to give any of the current guard armies an updated model. Nothing says MOAR money like new sexy models

The problem is it's plastic greatcoat IG. It seems thows guys have been "right around the cornor" as long as plastic thunderhawks. Sadly I wouldn't hold my breath.

 Breotan wrote:

Saldiven wrote:
Harry and Hastings from Warseer have a far better track record than faeit212, and neither of them have Bretonians coming in the foreseeable future.

It's the inclusion of the Bretonnians that make me suspicious of these rumors. If they're released before 2015, I'll be stunned and amazed.

Really? I was dubious as soon as I read 'plastic steel legion'. Every upcoming Guard release says there's going to be new plastic infantry, generally Greatcoat. This time it's Greatcoat with Gasmasks. It never happens.

Werewalrus wrote:
The day that GW starts making Steel Legion in plastic...is the day that I start making a guard army. Not holding my breath though...

Yeah, I might be right there with you. That would be really really hard to resist. And I cringe everytime I give them my money as it is.

Don't believe because of the Bretonnians. From an associate who talked with upper management at the GW Memphis office, Bretonnians and Wood Elves are not currently being worked on or played in the design studios. The source added though that it was 3 months since he was in the UK and interacting with the studio. They may have been in preliminary development and not seeing any/little test play yet. They also stated it was a two year cycle from a designer picking up an army to it being released.

And just to give you an idea, the design studio still works on the "only choosing armies that interest them" principal.

Anonymous source on faeit212 wrote:Next Year Warhammer Fantasy 9.Edition will have Empire versus Orks & Goblins.

Imperial Guard will release in March 2014 with Steel Legion Plastic Kits and a new Superheavy Tank base on the Baneblade. Baneblade & all other Superheavies will be in the Codex.

Anonymous source on faeit212 wroterks release in march.

(Yeah, obviously those last two contradict each other.)

Yes, obviously. This is the throw everything against the wall so that something is bound to stick approach to posting release rumors. If one says enough things are to be released in a given month one of them will surely turn out to be correct. It seems we're going to have to wait for more leaks from reliable sources before being able to count on any of these release predictions.

 silent25 wrote:
And just to give you an idea, the design studio still works on the "only choosing armies that interest them" principal.

Which is really awesome when you're a customer wanting to get into one of GW's games and just happen to pick one of the dozens of armies they produce that no one in the studio cares about anymore. Especially when they're all equally expensive to play.

Don't worry Sid, sooner or later one of those much maligned moneymen with go an kick some design studio arse and get gak done....but not for SoBs, never SoB.

Wasn't there a conspiracy to send misinfo to this guy just to see if he posted anything anyone emailed him...hence the wacky baccy style rumours.

Oh god, 9th ed fantasy already? I've only barely got a handle on 8th. I don't wanna spaff £50 on another book to stay current. :(

 -Loki- wrote:

 Breotan wrote:

Saldiven wrote:
Harry and Hastings from Warseer have a far better track record than faeit212, and neither of them have Bretonians coming in the foreseeable future.

It's the inclusion of the Bretonnians that make me suspicious of these rumors. If they're released before 2015, I'll be stunned and amazed.

Really? I was dubious as soon as I read 'plastic steel legion'. Every upcoming Guard release says there's going to be new plastic infantry, generally Greatcoat. This time it's Greatcoat with Gasmasks. It never happens.

Oh, I think it could happen eventually. But I'm skeptical about it during a phase characterized by a limited number of new boxes at release, and almost no new boxes for anything with an existing plastic kit. Wouldn't Steel Legion require at least three new kits on its own...infantry box, heavy weapons box, command box? You'd think GW would rather focus on the missing vehicles and Finecast conversions for some of the elites, etc. Heck, have they recut the Catachan kits yet? That would seem to be a higher priority too.

Also, most reliable signs have pointed to Brets being farther away. Natfka probably has some good sources, but it's hard to know which rumors come from the good ones. Note that I don't have a problem with him just posting rumors as he receives them. One of the things that drove me crazy about Warseer was its obsession with "true rumors." Which basically means they ignore or put down anything that doesn't come from the same handful of people, because how do you know?

Saldiven wrote:
Harry and Hastings from Warseer have a far better track record than faeit212, and neither of them have Bretonians coming in the foreseeable future. Both of them have Dwarves in early 2014.

Agreed! This is salty, as are all Faeit rumors.