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Range of 28mm miniatures for The Winter War between Finland and Soviet Russia of 1939-1940

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1030835091/winter-war-wargaming-miniatures



KS Funded

Stretch 1 Funded: Jaeger Ski troops. If we achieve the first stretch goal we will produce a ten man unit of Finnish skiers. One set of these will be added to each Finnish Platoon in your pledge.

Stretch 2 Funded: Snipers. You will receive one pack of four Snipers for each Red Army Platoon in your pledge level. We will also produce a pack of Finnish sharpshooters & snipers. You will receive one pack for every Finnish Platoon in your pledge level.

Stretch 3 Funded: Get to this level and we will unlock a unit of Finnish tank hunters armed with Molotov cocktails and logs of wood to stop any Red Army Tank literary in it’s tracks! You will receive one unit for every Finnish Platoon in your pledge level.

Stretch 4 Funded: Medics: A pack of 2 medics and 2 casualties for the army you choose in your pledge. You will receive one pack of medics and casualties per Platoon in your pledge for all levels above and including Platoon.

Stretch 5 Funded: Support Weapons. a mortar team (1mortar and 4 crew) and a Heavy Machine gun team (1 firing and 1 being moved) for both armies and you will get one for each Platoon in your pledge. The Maxim Machine gun will be available on wheels, tripod and sledge.

Stretch 6 Funded: Finnish: Anti-Tank Gun.You will receive one anti-tank gun with it’s 4 man crew per Platoon in your pledge level.

Stretch 7 Funded: Finnish & Red Army: Unlock this goal and we will give you an option for Summer uniformed variations for both sides. This will include NCOs and soldiers equipped with rifles, SMGs, & LMGs. You will be able to exchange sections of regular infantry packs in your pledge for summer uniformed soldiers or for other stretch goals already unlocked (options will be available in your surveys).

Stretch 8 Funded: Finnish Light Horse Cavalry. You will receive 1 troop of 6 cavalry per Platoon of your pledge.

Stretch 9 Funded: Finnish Jaeger on bicycles. When snow had thawed out, bicycles took over from skis as the mode of transport for Jaeger long range patrols. You will receive a 10 man squad of bicycles for each Platoon in your pledge.

Stretch 10 Funded: Red Army: Armoured Car.We will produce an armoured car to support the Red Army invasion of Finland. This may be supplied later than our original delivery date, but more details will released later. You will receive one multi-piece armoured car per Platoon in your pledge level.

Stretch 11 Funded: Finnish & Red Army: Artillery. This stretch goal will unlock artillery and baggage for both armies. The artillery will be supplied limbered with horses and riding crew and in a firing position with crew. Finnish baggage will be pulled by reindeer (go on Rudolf!). Choose either limbered or unlimbered versions as one gun and one baggage will be added per Platoon in your pledge

Stretch 12 Funded: Red Army: T-26 Tank. . This will be supplied later than our original delivery date, but more details will released later. You will receive one multi-piece aT-26 per Platoon in your pledge level.

All future stretch goals have later delivery dates of Jan/Feb 2014

Stretch 13 Funded: Finnish: Lahti AT rifles. Firing and moving, gunner and assistant (4 miniatures per pack)

Stretch14 Funded: Red Army: Tank crew and Tank riders. One pack of 4 minis for each.

Stretch 15 Funded: Red Army & Finnish: Engineers. Includes a Flamethrower squad (3 men), Demolition squad (3 men), mine squad (3 men) and wire clearing squad (3 men) and is available for both armies.

Stretch 16 Funded: Red Army: Commissar. Two Commissar miniatures plus a standard bearer!

Stretch 17 Funded: Finnish: Model Cajander. 2 packs of 4 Finnish troops in varying civilian clothes to mix in with infantry units or use as civil guard.

Stretch 18 Funded: Red Army: Infantry in snow camo. 2 packs of 4 different poses in snow camouflage.

Stretch 19 Funded: Finnish and Red Army: Head conversions and Casualty markers.8 Head variants for both armies to vary your armies. Also a pack of 4 dead casualties for casualty markers (unlike medic pack previously).

Stretch 20 Funded: Finnish and Red Army: Artillery observers and Summer uniform crews. Crews for the previously unlocked support weapons and artillery in summer uniforms.

Stretch 21 Funded: Finnish and Red Army: Field Kitchen.Comes with crew and eating troops (can also be used as POWs)

Stretch 22 Funded: Red Army: Twin MG turret T-26. Variant of the T-26 with twin MGs.

Stretch 23 Funded: Finnish and Red Army: Truck. With optional AA Gun and passengers. Available for delivery February 2014.

Stretch 24 Funded: Finnish and Red Army: Aerosan OSGA 6. Comes with crew for both armies supplied. Available for delivery February 2014.

Stretch 25 Funded: The Terror of Morocco. Finnish hero Aarne Edward Juutilainen. Please note that this item will only be available as a paid for add-on and not part of your pledge. Available for delivery February 2014. Add-on £2.50

Stretch 26 Funded: KhT-130 Flamethrower. T-26 Variant. Please note that this item will only be available as a paid for add-on and not part of your pledge. Available for delivery February 2014. Add-on

Winter War

The Winter War of 1939-1940 was a short but extremely bloody conflict where over 1 million Red Army soldiers were killed while trying to invade Finland. The well trained Finnish forces were heavily outnumbered but managed to keep back waves of poor, badly led Red Army infantry and tanks. After 105 days, a peace agreement was made after Finnish forces proved themselves against the Red Army onslaught only days before British and French forces were to embark to help defend Finland



The range includes Finnish Soldiers in snow camouflage and also early Red Army soldiers which are not currently available from other miniature companies. Eventually the range will be available as blister packs of 4 miniatures for each type of soldier (running rifleman etc). However, for Kickstarter, each pledge level includes a fighting unit which includes Non-Commissioned Officers (NCOs), sub machine guns (SMGs), light machine guns (LMGs) and riflemen as you will need them in most miniature wargames.


For pledges of all levels, each backer will receive a special miniature of Winter War Hero Simo Häyhä

Simo Häyhä made 505 confirmed kills as a sniper and another 200 using a sub-machine gun! This single-handed killing spree was ended on 6th March when Häyhä was shot in the face by an explosive round. He came out his coma on the day peace was declared 7 days later.

The heroic stand taken by Häyhä and his fellow Finns against Red Army forces that outnumbered them by as much as 100:1 is often referred to as The Miracle of Kollaa. When the war had ended, Häyhä was promoted straight from corporal to second lieutenant. He went on to become a successful moose hunter and lived to the age of 96. When he was asked about his service, he stated, “I only did what was ordered, and did it as well as I could.” Asked what the key to his success was, his short answer was, “Practice... and clear days.”

I'm not into historicals, but this was a truly fascinating conflict and it's nice to see it get some tabletop love.

One problem, balance wise, is that Simo Häyhä appeared to have a 1+ invulnerable save along with BS8.

Interesting, Just started a Russian army for Bolt action, could use some winter prepared Russian miniatures.

Interesting timing, as Warlord will later this year release a book detailing the Finnish army and the Winter War.

This looks interesting, good luck with your kickstarter!

I think the Winter War is very suited for 28mm skirmish - there weren't too many tanks, and they were mostly light BTs up to T-28 (with some KV-1s in the mix) and faced slow terrain, so they were often destroyed by assaulting with demo charges.

In essence, Finland had "elite" light infantry in terms of movement, general winter warfare ability and morale, soviets had mass infantry and more tanks but poor leadership and training. Should make a fun game if balanced properly.

This is a war that is almost designed for 28mm tabletop. The figures and rewards as well make it very attractive. Hope they are at least pencilling in some stretches past the £12k mark, I think they will need to.

Anyone into Bolt Action will surely love this kickstarter.

Looks interesting. Anyone know anything about the creator(s)?

I've not come across them before the KS was pointed out to me

their website (http://bakercompany.co.uk/) has a decent range of stuff on it and their about us page says

"Baker Company is now owned by Gavin Tyler (also of Warm Acre Games www.warmacre.com) as of 23rd June 2013. Thanks goes to Danny who has been able to make the company a success over the last 3 years. Gavin has been casting the miniatures for Baker Company for 2 years and knows the miniature ranges inside out (literally), he is also a games designer, a sculptor of 10 years experience and a graphic designer by trade.

The focus on Baker Company will be to continue the great customer service but also to release new packs in the Vietnam War and Zulu ranges. There also plans for complete new ranges which have already been started."

other than that if anybody has bought from/worked with them before it would be good to hear about it

Well they are already half way to reaching their target.

Just been working out what you would end up with presently with the announced planned first 12 stretch goals at their 'Platoon' (£60) support level.

Finnish:- about 80 figures (counting horses as one figure from the Light Cavalry) and including a mortar team, HMG, anti-tank gun and crew, and an artillery piece and crew.

Russian:- about about 57 figures including a mortar team, HMG, artillery piece and crew, an armoured car, and a T-26 tank.

(The number of figures are approximate as not sure how many figures are included as 'crew', etc.)

Being half way to the funding level already would indicate that it could well exceed the present highest stretch goal of £12,000.

Winter War has just reached it's funding target.

Stretch Goals now posted (Basically you need to be at the £60 platoon level to benefit from these, and if you are you can make out like a bandit!)



Stretch Goal 1: £3,500

Finnish: Jaeger Ski troops. If we achieve the first stretch goal we will produce a ten man unit of Finnish skiers. One set of these will be added to each Finnish Platoon in your pledge.

Stretch Goal 2: £4,000

Snipers. With this first stretch goal for the Red Army, you will receive one pack of four Snipers for each Red Army Platoon in your pledge level. Use these to hunt down Häyhä - if you can! We will also produce a pack of Finnish sharpshooters & snipers to support Simo Häyhä. You will receive one pack for every Finnish Platoon in your pledge level.

Stretch Goal 3: £4,500

Finnish: Tank hunters. Get to this level and we will unlock a unit of Finnish tank hunters armed with Molotov cocktails and logs of wood to stop any Red Army Tank literary in it’s tracks! You will receive one unit for every Finnish Platoon in your pledge level.

Stretch Goal 4: £5,000

Medics: Unlock this stretch goal to produce a pack of medics and casualties for the army you choose in your pledge. You will receive one pack of medics and casualties per Platoon in your pledge for all levels above and including Platoon.

Stretch Goal 5: £5,500

Finnish & Red Army: Support Weapons. This stretch goal will unlock a mortar team and a Heavy Machine gun team for both armies and you will get one for each Platoon in your pledge. The Maxim Machine gun will be available on wheels, tripod and sledge.

Stretch Goal 6: £6,000

Finnish: Anti-Tank Gun. If we achieve this stretch goal we will produce an anti-tank gun to field in your army. You will receive one anti-tank gun with it’s crew per Platoon in your pledge level.

Stretch Goal 7: £6,500

Finnish & Red Army: Unlock this goal and we will give you an option for Summer uniformed variations for both sides. This will include NCOs and soldiers equipped with rifles, SMGs, & LMGs. If this goal is unlocked, you will be able to exchange sections of regular infantry packs in your pledge for summer uniformed soldiers or for other stretch goals already unlocked (options will be available in your surveys).

Stretch Goal 8: £7,500

Finnish Light Horse Cavalry. Not so much cavalry, as fast mobile light infantry. You will receive 1 troop of 6 cavalry per Platoon of your pledge.

Stretch Goal 9: £8,000

Finnish Jaeger on bicycles. When snow had thawed out, bicycles took over from skis as the mode of transport for Jaeger long range patrols. You will receive a 10 man squad of bicycles for each Platoon in your pledge.

Stretch Goal 10: £9,000

Red Army: Armoured Car. There is a larger jump to unlock this stretch goal. If this is reached, we will produce an armoured car to support the Red Army invasion of Finland. This may be supplied later than our original delivery date, but more details will released later. You will receive one multi-piece armoured car per Platoon in your pledge level.

Stretch Goal 11: £10,000

Finnish & Red Army: Artillery. This stretch goal will unlock artillery and baggage for both armies. The artillery will be supplied limbered with horses and riding crew and in a firing position with crew. Finnish baggage will be pulled by reindeer (go on Rudolf!). Choose either limbered or unlimbered versions as one gun and one baggage will be added per Platoon in your pledge

Stretch Goal 12: £12,000

Red Army: T-26 Tank. If we get to this level we will produce our own 28mm (1/56) scale T-26 Tank. This may be supplied later than our original delivery date, but more details will released later. You will receive one multi-piece aT-26 per Platoon in your pledge level.



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KS Funded

Stretch 1 Funded: Jaeger Ski troops. If we achieve the first stretch goal we will produce a ten man unit of Finnish skiers. One set of these will be added to each Finnish Platoon in your pledge.

I'm tempted to back this if only to get Simo Häyhä for my Guard army.

The third stretch goal has now been achieved, the Finnish Tank Hunter unit, at this rate another couple of stretch goals might fall today (they are only £300 away from the next one).

Looks like this is going to produce something that would fit in well with Bolt Action and other systems.

thanks for the catching those while I was asleep

Stretch Goal 2: £4,000 - UNLOCKED!

Snipers. With this first stretch goal for the Red Army, you will receive one pack of four Snipers for each Red Army Platoon in your pledge level. Use these to hunt down Häyhä - if you can! We will also produce a pack of Finnish sharpshooters & snipers to support Simo Häyhä. You will receive one pack for every Finnish Platoon in your pledge level.

Stretch Goal 3: £4,500 - UNLOCKED!

Finnish: Tank hunters. Get to this level and we will unlock a unit of Finnish tank hunters armed with Molotov cocktails and logs of wood to stop any Red Army Tank literary in it’s tracks! You will receive one unit for every Finnish Platoon in your pledge level.

 Ouze wrote:

One problem, balance wise, is that Simo Häyhä appeared to have a 1+ invulnerable save along with BS8.

It's little known fact that he actually founded the Vindicare temple.

Well the Finnish Tank Hunters and Medics stretch goals are unlocked and the HMG and mortar teams seem set to be unlocked as the next stretch goal.

I don't think any of the existing backers doubt that all the first 12 announced stretch goals will be unlocked very soon (and they includes artillery, a Russian armoured car and a T-26 tank).

Stretch Goal 4: £5,000 - UNLOCKED!

Medics: Unlock this stretch goal to produce a pack of 2 medics and 2 casualties for the army you choose in your pledge. You will receive one pack of medics and casualties per Platoon in your pledge for all levels above and including Platoon.

Stretch Goal 5: £5,500 - UNLOCKED!

Finnish & Red Army: Support Weapons. This stretch goal will unlock a mortar team (1mortar and 4 crew) and a Heavy Machine gun team (1 firing and 1 being moved) for both armies and you will get one for each Platoon in your pledge. The Maxim Machine gun will be available on wheels, tripod and sledge.

I see that Stretch Goal #6 (the anti-tank gun and crew) is now unlocked. This makes it half way through the list of the first 12 stretch goals, and with over 26 days to go.

I'm concerned that the goals are relatively small and are giving away a huge amount of figures. I hope that after the 12k goal that the stretches become a little larger to pad the extra cash they'll need to afford all the raw materials.

 judgedoug wrote:
I'm concerned that the goals are relatively small and are giving away a huge amount of figures. I hope that after the 12k goal that the stretches become a little larger to pad the extra cash they'll need to afford all the raw materials.

I think that the goals will become further apart after these initial 12 stretch goals, obviously making it economical to run the kickstarter. The first 12 are amazing value and give a tremendous amount to the sponsors, but it would benefit nobody if it was to produce a financial loss. Looking at it I think this may just be the beginning of something rather interesting. Already the next stretch goal is the option to go for Finnish summer uniforms (in a winter war?), but they would be great in the 'Continuation War' between Finland and Russia of 1941-44, as would the 'Finnish bicycle troops' at stretch number 9 . Then of course you have the 'Lapland War' 1944-45 when Finland fought the German forces.

Stretch Goal 6: £6,000 - UNLOCKED!

Finnish: Anti-Tank Gun. If we achieve this stretch goal we will produce an anti-tank gun to field in your army. You will receive one anti-tank gun with it’s 4 man crew per Platoon in your pledge level.

Stretch Goal 7: £6,500 - UNLOCKED!

Finnish & Red Army: Unlock this goal and we will give you an option for Summer uniformed variations for both sides. This will include NCOs and soldiers equipped with rifles, SMGs, & LMGs. If this goal is unlocked, you will be able to exchange sections of regular infantry packs in your pledge for summer uniformed soldiers or for other stretch goals already unlocked (options will be available in your surveys).

This is such a good deal that I am getting sorely tempted, even though I don't do any historical gaming and have a massive painting backlog already

No way is this one delivering in November this year. Funding closes on Oct 8th, 2-3 weeks for KS to release the money to the creator, and we're already in November.

Add to that a relatively unknown producer, an enormous number of stretch goal figures that aren't yet sculpted.. I dunno. It all seems to be too good to be true and is giving me a bad feeling...

Azazelx - Have you actually seen what he has done before?

Also he bought the company, and already it is clearly stated that the T-26 and Armoured Car will likely be later deliveries, so they are not planned for November delivery anyway. As for the figures the majority of the time is in the sculpting (again look at his background and the work he is doing on the figs now), and to produce the figures themselves does not actually take that long in itself when the moulds are made.

I love doubting Thomas', especially when they actually have no evidence for having a 'bad feeling' - but then again I am a dog lover and not a cat lover for that reason I guess. :-)


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Now just £120 away from the next stretch goal and the following list of 'Add-ons' have been added to the Homepage.

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£5 Finnish or Red Army Riflemen
Pack of 4 Riflemen (Winter or Summer) - very useful for larger squads various army lists

£5 Finnish or Red Army Command
Pack of 4 Command staff (officers and NCOs)

£5 Finnish or Red Army Light Machine Guns
Pack of 2 LMG gunners and 2 assistants

£6 Finnish Ski Troops
Pack of 4 ski troops

£5 Finnish or Red Army Snipers
Pack of 4 Snipers

£5 Finnish Tank Hunters
Pack of 4 tank hunters

£5 Finnish or Red Army Medics
Pack of 2 medics and 2 casualties

£7 Red Army Heavy Machine Gun
1 Maxim Heavy Machine Gun with crew

£7 Finnish or Red Army Mortar
1 Mortar with crew

£10 Finnish or Red Army Anti Tank Gun
1 AT gun with crew

More will be added as stretch goals are unlocked.

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Wow, I love the finnish WWII stuff. I will be very hard pressed not to buy in on this one. I've wanted to do an IG army with bicycle mounted penal squad - (Scouts! Outflank!) and a mounted squad infantry squad, so this is perfect. I am concerned that it is too good to be true as has be discussed above.

As a Finn, this feels really weird to see a foreign company so enthused over a domestic subject. I know there's a bunch of Winter/Continuation War enthusiasts in the global scale modeling community, too (locally, they make up a stifling majority that's very hard to ignore)

Stretch 8: £7,500 - UNLOCKED!

Finnish Light Horse Cavalry. Not so much cavalry, as fast mobile light infantry. You will receive 1 troop of 6 cavalry per Platoon of your pledge.

Stretch Goal 9: £8,000 - UNLOCKED!

Finnish Jaeger on bicycles. When snow had thawed out, bicycles took over from skis as the mode of transport for Jaeger long range patrols. You will receive a 10 man squad of bicycles for each Platoon in your pledge.

CBRFigs wrote:
Azazelx - Have you actually seen what he has done before?

Also he bought the company, and already it is clearly stated that the T-26 and Armoured Car will likely be later deliveries, so they are not planned for November delivery anyway. As for the figures the majority of the time is in the sculpting (again look at his background and the work he is doing on the figs now), and to produce the figures themselves does not actually take that long in itself when the moulds are made.

I love doubting Thomas', especially when they actually have no evidence for having a 'bad feeling' - but then again I am a dog lover and not a cat lover for that reason I guess. :-)

Hey there, brand new poster with only 8 posts, all of which are in this thread who is no doubt either a friend of the creators or a sockpuppet! It's probably best not to be text deleted. reds8n when you're a brand new poster who is clearly here to shill and cheerlead when people/established posters on a new forum are being a little bit cautious and asking questions.

If you'll use your eyeballs, I actually asked about the creator several posts ago, though there's very little useful information that lets us know how well known or trustworthy they actually are. Of course, if you're all for being like a dog who doesn't bother to think, be critical or cautious (like a cat) and just leaps blindly where they're told, then I've got a really great deal for YOU.

As I said earlier. There is no fething chance for a November delivery on this project, unless the figures are already sculpted or he is going to be doing them three-a-night with the definition of play-doh. Anyone with experience in backing Kickstarters can plainly see that. I was speaking without even considering vehicles, as well. Now try to be a bit more polite or even humble when defending your pet project, or you'll continue to get friendly replies like this one. Your choice to ignore Wheaton's Law has the potential to lose you backers, rather than gain them.

We can do without the insults please folks.