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Made in us
Powerful Ushbati





Manhatten, KS

So I have an event this weekend and I have a dilemma. For those that no me. I historically play for Best General only. I am not the best of painters, but man can I play the game pretty well. Anyways to my point. I have a few list. One is a build that gives me a real good chance of winning best general. The other is a good list but is more tiered to win best overall. The dilemma is which to shoot for...

Possible Best Overall Build:

HQ:
Destroyer Lord Sempiternal weave and MSS
Allies: Tzeentch Prince (CSM) Level 3; Wings; Gift of mutation 365pts

Troops:
5 warriors in night scythe
5 warriors in night scythe
5 warriors in night scythe
5 warriors in night scythe
Allies: 10 Cultist

Fast Attack:
5 Wraiths
Allies: Heldrake Baleflamer

Heavy Support:
Annihilation barge Tesla/Tesla
Annihilation barge Tesla/Tesla
Annihilation barge Tesla/Tesla

The above list is competitive. I won the indy open with it and have since gotten it painted up to a good tournament standard. The only issue is I won with them before Eldar and Tau hit. Both counter the wraiths and the prince pretty well so I could possible hit a hard counter.

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Possible Best General Build:

Eldar/Tau:
HQ:
Farseer w/ Jetbike; Spirit Stone of Analth'lan

Troops:
5 Dire Avengers; Wave Serpent TL Bright Lance
5 Dire Avengers; Wave Serpent TL Bright Lance
10 Guardian Defenders; Wave Serpent TL Scatter Laser
10 Guardian Defenders; Wave Serpent TL Scatter Laser

Heavy:
3 x War Walkers W/ 2x Scatter Laser
3 x War Walkers W/ 2x Bright Lance

Allies:
Commander; Vectored Retro-Thrusters; Onager Gauntlet; Command and Control Node; Puretide Engram Neurochip; Multi-Spectrum Sensor Suite; Iridium Battlesuit

Troops:
10 Kroot

Heavy:
3 Broadsides w/ Railgun and SMS; 5 Missile Drones

I took this build to the indy invitational this last weekend. It did pretty well and I really liked how the army performed for me. This army has no shot in hell at best overall but, it can handle some of the top builds out currently.

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I could also run a necron and ork list but it will not win best overall either and isnt exactely a top tier build. Though it can hold its own from what I have found out.

HQ:
Mek with heavy armor and cyborg body shock attack gun

Old Zogwort

Allies: Trazyn the Infinite

Elite:

8 Loota Boyz (Go in battle Wagon)

Troops:
20 Shoota Boyz (Go in Deff Rolla Wagon)
22 Slugga Boyz
10 Gretchin
10 Gretchin
5 Warriors In night scythe
5 Warriors in night scythe

Fast attack:
Dakka Jet with 3 TL Supa Shoota Fly Boss upgrade
Dakka Jet with 3 TL Supa Shoota Fly Boss upgrade

Heavy:
Battlewagon Grot Rigger 2x big shoota
Battlewagon Grot Rigger 2x big shoota; deff rolla; Armour Plates red paint

Fortification:
Aegis with quadgun

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IG/SW:
HQ:
CCS 4x melta; Chimera ML/HF

Troops:
Vet Squad 3x plasma; Chimera ML/HF
Vet Squad 3x plasma; Chimera ML/HF
Infantry Platoon
PCS 4x Flamer
Inf Squad
Inf Squad

Fast:
Vendetta
Vendetta
Hellhound Hull HF

Heavy:
2x Hydra Flak Tank Hull HB
Demolisher Tank Hull HB
Manticore Rocket Launcher Hull HF

Allies:
Rune Priest in Terminator Armor w/ Melta Bombs

Troops:
5 Grey Hunters 1 Plasma

Heavy:
6 Long Fangs 5x Missile Launchers

What are your all's thoughts?

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2013/09/30 22:56:40


TK - 2012 40K GT Record 18-5
4th in 2nd bracket Feast of Blades 2012 (IG/SoB); 4th Overall Midwest Massacre (IG/SW); 5th Overall Indy Open (IG); Final 16 Adepticon Open (IG)

TK - 2013 40K GT Record 24-4
Best General Indy Open (Crons/CSM)
Top 5! Bugeater GT (TauDar)
Final 4 Nova Invitational (Eldau)
Best Overall Midwest Massacre (Crons/CSM)

TK- 2014 to Date: http://www.torrentoffire.com/rankings 
   
Made in us
Powerful Ushbati





Manhatten, KS

Voting on this ends in 3 hours. I will have to pack the army by then.

TK - 2012 40K GT Record 18-5
4th in 2nd bracket Feast of Blades 2012 (IG/SoB); 4th Overall Midwest Massacre (IG/SW); 5th Overall Indy Open (IG); Final 16 Adepticon Open (IG)

TK - 2013 40K GT Record 24-4
Best General Indy Open (Crons/CSM)
Top 5! Bugeater GT (TauDar)
Final 4 Nova Invitational (Eldau)
Best Overall Midwest Massacre (Crons/CSM)

TK- 2014 to Date: http://www.torrentoffire.com/rankings 
   
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Storming Storm Guardian




US of A

I would vote for eldar, but Avengers are a weak choice in this edition. They aren't as efficient as they were when they had the old bladestorm, and most other shuriken weapons now get it by default. I would use jetbikes or a static guardian gunline instead. IMO

Tau are solid overall, though I don't know if they improved kroot at all from the last edition. Kroot are still going to be right up there with DAs as your weakest links. Keep that in mind.

My armies: Adepta Sororitas Eldars
 
   
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Flashy Flashgitz




Others have performed well with Kroot, and they were pretty popular during ETC. Don't rule them out.

With love from Denmark

 
   
Made in us
Powerful Ushbati





Manhatten, KS

I ran the csm/necrons as it was the high vote. I will post a picture of it later and give a summary of the event.

TK - 2012 40K GT Record 18-5
4th in 2nd bracket Feast of Blades 2012 (IG/SoB); 4th Overall Midwest Massacre (IG/SW); 5th Overall Indy Open (IG); Final 16 Adepticon Open (IG)

TK - 2013 40K GT Record 24-4
Best General Indy Open (Crons/CSM)
Top 5! Bugeater GT (TauDar)
Final 4 Nova Invitational (Eldau)
Best Overall Midwest Massacre (Crons/CSM)

TK- 2014 to Date: http://www.torrentoffire.com/rankings 
   
Made in us
Powerful Ushbati





Manhatten, KS

Started the summary: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/555334.page#6102858

TK - 2012 40K GT Record 18-5
4th in 2nd bracket Feast of Blades 2012 (IG/SoB); 4th Overall Midwest Massacre (IG/SW); 5th Overall Indy Open (IG); Final 16 Adepticon Open (IG)

TK - 2013 40K GT Record 24-4
Best General Indy Open (Crons/CSM)
Top 5! Bugeater GT (TauDar)
Final 4 Nova Invitational (Eldau)
Best Overall Midwest Massacre (Crons/CSM)

TK- 2014 to Date: http://www.torrentoffire.com/rankings 
   
 
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