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2013/11/20 01:03:38
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Someone told me at the GW store in th UK (Croydon, in South London)
he plays at, in order to play now, you have to hand over a voucher that you get for spending 15pounds there.
Is this true or BS? Anyone else hear of this policy?????
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.Only a fool believes there is such a thing as price gouging. Things have value determined by the creator or merchant. If you don't agree with that value, you are free not to purchase. |
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2013/11/20 01:05:14
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Civil War Re-enactor
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"Someone"?
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Shotgun wrote:I don't think I will ever understand the mentality of people that feel the need to record and post their butthurt on the interwebs.
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2013/11/20 01:06:03
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Someone indeed.
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 Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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2013/11/20 01:09:44
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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[DCM]
Sentient OverBear
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This is News and Rumors, and Questions and Quizzes.
Moving to the proper forum.
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Trust me, no matter what damage they have the potential to do, single-shot weapons always flatter to deceive in 40k. Rule #1
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2013/11/20 02:13:27
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
Wales: Where the Men are Men and the sheep are Scared.
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Not a friend? Not a cousin just someone?
Also if that is the case they are slowed. People playing games there is free advertising for the game. Gets people interested. People are already changing games due to the high cost. If you are expected to buy a new model or two every time you play people will either leave at an even faster rate.
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2013/11/20 02:22:22
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Hmmm weird that I think.. assuming its true.
a "well intended" bur hare brained scheme by an individual maybe.
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2013/11/20 02:51:44
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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That is so bloody dumb I actually believe GW would do it...
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 Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
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2013/11/20 02:57:06
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Fixture of Dakka
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So the new trend for General Discussion is to make up a false premise or bullcrap idea about GW, then people have this week's reason to revisit the "Airing of Grievances"...
Are we trying to celebrate Festivus or something?
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2013/11/20 03:03:52
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Festivus is back!? Where was the memo!
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2013/11/20 03:13:27
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'm getting the pole out of the crawlspace!
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Kirasu: Have we fallen so far that we are excited that GW is giving us the opportunity to spend 58$ for JUST the rules? Surprised it's not "Dataslate: Assault Phase"
AlexHolker: "The power loader is a forklift. The public doesn't complain about a forklift not having frontal armour protecting the crew compartment because the only enemy it is designed to face is the OHSA violation."
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2013/11/20 03:17:22
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Can you refute or validate this rumor? My source is someone who plays there and has posted. I'd prefer not to out his name for privacy reasons. Otherwise then, back off.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/11/20 03:18:25
.Only a fool believes there is such a thing as price gouging. Things have value determined by the creator or merchant. If you don't agree with that value, you are free not to purchase. |
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2013/11/20 03:18:36
Subject: Re:GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Sinewy Scourge
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Is this true or BS? Anyone else hear of this policy???
So the new trend for General Discussion is to make up a false premise or bullcrap idea about GW, then people have this week's reason to revisit the "Airing of Grievances"...
Thanks for coming out, Nkelsch. I think your bitterness about bitterness is diverting your ability to focus. Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, OT, I have not heard of such. Then again GW Japan is its own animal.
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2013/11/20 03:29:30
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Oh sure, it's dumb when GW does it but when independents charge for table space it's just business sense...
In regards to the OP? It's not a corporate policy, but managers seem to have leeway in regards to doing things like this. The GW shop in question might have a community where there are people who are very vocal about how they buy only from online stores while playing at the shop.
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2013/11/20 03:51:02
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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Oh sure, it's dumb when GW does it but when independents charge for table space it's just business sense...
I've never once said that. This is not some double standard just because I dislike GW, if my FLGS tied charging me I'd most likely stop playing there and even if I didn't I'd no longer feel obligated to buy there over online discounters.
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Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
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2013/11/20 04:32:55
Subject: Re:GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Posts with Authority
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Looking at the Croyden store's Facebook page... I do not see mention of needing a 15 quid receipt - but I do see that the store manager left last week.
With no other evidence, I would be inclined to discount it as rumor, or possibly an 'I want these people out of my store' ploy by an unhappy manager stand-in.
The Auld Grump
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Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.
The reason I bought rules and became a real wargamer was because I wanted a properly thought out structure to govern the action instead of just making things up as I went along.
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2013/11/20 05:43:26
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Terrifying Treeman
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I recall seeing the post about this on facebook this morning from one of the people that go to GW Croyden.
I'll try and dig it up.
EDIT: I can't seem to find it, but I'm certain it was on my wall this morning, perhaps it was deleted by the Admins of the page?
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Horst wrote:This is how trolling happens. A few cheeky posts are made. Then they get more insulting. Eventually, we revert to our primal animal state, hurling feces at each other while shreeking with glee.
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2013/11/20 05:54:08
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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General Hobbs wrote:
Can you refute or validate this rumor? My source is someone who plays there and has posted. I'd prefer not to out his name for privacy reasons. Otherwise then, back off.
Can you refute or validate a rumor that I start that you are a mass murderer?
Can you refute or validate a rumor I start that landraiders do actually explode and injure people if you roll three 6s on three pens?
This is the internet, of course they cannot refute or validate when everything is anonymous, but the whole "my friend who I won't name" holds absolutely no water. Logic is your friend, use it, but until then this is an unfounded rumor, ESPECIALLY since YOU are asking others for feedback on it.
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2013/11/20 06:05:41
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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The Hammer of Witches
A new day, a new time zone.
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General Hobbs wrote:
Can you refute or validate this rumor? My source is someone who plays there and has posted. I'd prefer not to out his name for privacy reasons. Otherwise then, back off.
If you'll say who he is, I'll be quite comfortable to call him a liar to his face.
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2013/11/20 06:11:45
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
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 Bookwrack wrote:General Hobbs wrote:
Can you refute or validate this rumor? My source is someone who plays there and has posted. I'd prefer not to out his name for privacy reasons. Otherwise then, back off.
If you'll say who he is, I'll be quite comfortable to call him a liar to his face.
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2013/11/20 06:11:49
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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I shudder at the sheltered life you must lead if you think that calling someone a liar on the internet makes you a badass. 
General Hobbs wrote:
Can you refute or validate this rumor? My source is someone who plays there and has posted.
Refute? Easily. UK posters are not an endangered species - if this was an actual thing that was happening, you think they'd be this quiet, that this wouldn't be something people everywhere would be furious about?
If this was something your friend actually encountered, he could speak for himself.
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2013/11/20 06:31:20
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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The Hammer of Witches
A new day, a new time zone.
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 Xenocidal Maniac wrote: Bookwrack wrote:General Hobbs wrote:
Can you refute or validate this rumor? My source is someone who plays there and has posted. I'd prefer not to out his name for privacy reasons. Otherwise then, back off.
If you'll say who he is, I'll be quite comfortable to call him a liar to his face.
What exactly would you do then, say, 'Hey Hobbs, I don't think you're friend's a liar, I just think he's full of gak?'
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"-Nonsense, the Inquisitor and his retinue are our hounoured guests, of course we should invite them to celebrate Four-armed Emperor-day with us..."
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2013/11/20 06:33:33
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Douglas Bader
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Kanluwen wrote:Oh sure, it's dumb when GW does it but when independents charge for table space it's just business sense...
It's dumb when GW does it because GW stores are not individual businesses, they're a branch of the company dedicated to providing easy local sales and a place to play (and therefore encouraging people to buy the game). It makes no sense for GW to charge for table space because no matter who you buy GW products from GW is still making a profit. It's potentially good business sense for an independent store to charge for tables because they need income to that store specifically if they want to survive, and they can potentially provide a much better gaming experience that justifies charging for table space.
The GW shop in question might have a community where there are people who are very vocal about how they buy only from online stores while playing at the shop.
So what? If you buy online you still give your money to GW. Don't make the same idiotic mistake that GW does and think that each individual retail store is its own business that needs to do everything it can to keep sales in that one store.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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2013/11/20 07:59:55
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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GW stores are not franchises either, so it's not as if they're independent stores serving a corporate overmind either.
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2013/11/20 08:32:50
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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It certainly doesn't apply at my local store or any of the others in my region.
One suspects you're associate is either .... exaggerating .............. or perhaps the subject of a prank or something.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2013/11/20 08:45:10
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
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A quick check of the store's facebook page shows that a new manager has just started and he mentions "booking games" as an existing process.
I'd guess that this booking process (which makes sense given the limited table space) may have been the kernel of this "pay to play" and/or that the previous manager would hand out a "this entitles you to one game" voucher sort of thing when somebody buys something to encourage them to build it, paint it and play it.
As for "pay to play", not a UK wide policy I've ever seen or heard of.
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2013/11/20 09:00:07
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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I like this silly thread. In its vapidness and naïveté it's like a mirror image of the one about "Do GW stores price-match?"!
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2013/11/20 09:05:54
Subject: Re:GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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This site
http://www.qwghlm.co.uk/toys/dailymail/
helps generate authentic (  ) Daily Mail headlines :
" HAS BRUSSELS STOLEN THE IDENTITY OF TAXPAYERS? "
" COULD TEENAGE SEX MAKE DRIVERS IMPOTENT? "
"WILL SINGLE MOTHERS GIVE YOUR DAUGHTERS CANCER?"
.. One fears we could now do something pretty similar with regards to GW and rumours.
" HAVE GW MADE THEIR STAFF WEAR FINECAST UNDERWEAR ?"
" DID TOM KIRBY EAT A HAMSTER ?1" and so forth.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2013/11/20 09:12:52
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
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TOM KIRKBY ATE MY HAMSTER, REMAINS SILENT ON HIS ROLE IN DEATH OF DIANA.
Sorry, I'll get my coat...
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2013/11/20 09:19:35
Subject: GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Calculating Commissar
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Wouldn't this tie in with that token thing that some stores were supposedly starting up, where spending $x got you a token which you could use for table time or tuition or something?
I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was a new initiative, whether or not it'll be axed before it starts is something I can't guess at though.
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2013/11/20 10:09:07
Subject: Re:GW Stores in UK now pay to play?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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So there are GW stores left that allow in store gaming?
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