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Ok new guy here. Well I've been a fan of 40k fluff for years but never actually played the game. Recently I moved temporarly into town with a GW shop in it and decided to take the plunge and start a small army with some of my fav factions, with the Inquisition codex recently coming out I had the idea of an Inquisitor which has a small IG detachment as part of his retinue.

However I never made an army list and I have a limited budget, and so I really wanted suggestions regarding how should I make a small list centered around an Inquisitor work as to avoid recklessly wasting money in miniatures I wont use. I am not looking for anything really competitive/optimal, just something fluffy that works and can win a couple of games.

I dunno if this is possible since I am still new this, but I was thinking of having an Inquisitor HQ with a generic ordos inquisitor + a mix of elites from the codex (like crusaders, Stormtroopers, psykers or cult assassins), a bunch of guardsmen squad with a chimera. But alas I have no experience with army building.

i think this is a really good idea, however you still require an hq for ig

 chaplain iktinos wrote:
i think this is a really good idea, however you still require an hq for ig

Yeah I was not sure if in this "two factions" situations we needed an HQ for each faction. Maybe an inquisitor and a lord commissar.

Regarding the elites probably an henchmen warband featuring crusaders,psykers and death cult assassins ( the amount to be decided).

The rest will be just regular infantry squads and maybe a chimera, still have to do the point math but if I can I will probably add a group of stormtroopers as elites.

The idea would be the regular IG would give fire support whereas the inquisitor and henchmen would be the melee oriented part of this small list (with a psyker thrown in for good measure)

genrally in low point games you should take a company command squad instead of lord commisar. Less points, more boots on the ground (therefore more shots) and the ability to issue orders means that they are genrally the better option.

I dont know much about inquisitors so can't help you there, and if you want your army to be fluffy then I suggest you read the lore about the different ordos and give your inquisitor the stuff that fits the fluff associated with it.

lordra001 wrote:
genrally in low point games you should take a company command squad instead of lord commisar. Less points, more boots on the ground (therefore more shots) and the ability to issue orders means that they are genrally the better option.

I dont know much about inquisitors so can't help you there, and if you want your army to be fluffy then I suggest you read the lore about the different ordos and give your inquisitor the stuff that fits the fluff associated with it.

Ok thanks for the input, the only reason why I said comissar it's because they are such an emblematic part of the IG that it would be nice to fit in.

Regarding the fluff no worries there, I am new to the crunch part but I've been into the fluff for years, own several books, played a lot of Dark Heresy and pretty much know everything that there is to know about the Imperium.

ok yeah, ill explain the allie thing for you, so how it works is you have ur primary detachment which requires one hq and 2 troops min, and then ur allied which requires 1 hq and 1 troop min, however the new inquisition works differently in that you can have another allied faction joining on also, but yes, to answer the question, you need atleast 1 hq and 2 troops for ig, and then whatever you want for inquisitorial, and id recommend against ig stormtroops


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so an example list would be: 500pts exactly
( idk how competitive this would be, but its along the lines of what you want, lots of bodies and fire power from guard, and a heavy close combat unit in a chimera, kinda putting all ur eggs in one basket, but hey, it could be fun)

Ig primary-260pts

command squad barebones-50

infantry platoon-210 pts

3x ig squad with 1 auto cannon in each

platoon command squad, no upgrades

inquisitorial detachment

ordo heriticus inquisitor,( idk what ordo you want)- 65
power sword
psyker

henchman warband in a chimera, inquisitor can join this unit, -175
3x crusaders,to soak up wounds
5x death cult assasins, hide behind crusaders the turn you jump out of the chimera

feel free to change as you wish, good luck!

Quite a nice list but I would put 2 of the ACs in the platoon command squad and the company command squad. This is because the command squads have veterans with better BS then normal guard squads. They are a bit less surviveable but they'll do more damage and if put in some cover are fairly survivable. Also I think that instead of having 3 normal squads, replace one with a scout sentinel with an AC. This is a list I came up with

IG Primary

HQ

CCS /w autocannon

Troops

PCS /w autocannon

1 normal squad /w autocannon

1 vanilla squad

Fast Attack

Scout Sentinel /w autocannon

Inquisition Allies

same as chaplain iktinos' list because I know nothing about Inquisition or GKs

495 points. 5 points left to play around with means that you could take some upgrades on some units

thanks, im not too familar with the imp guard, ill combine the two lists and he should have a preety rockin list

IG Primary

HQ

CCS /w autocannon

Troops

PCS /w autocannon

1 normal squad /w autocannon

1 vanilla squad

Fast Attack

Scout Sentinel /w autocannon

Inquisition Allies

ordo heriticus inquisitor,( idk what ordo you want)- 65
power sword
psyker

henchman warband in a chimera, inquisitor can join this unit, -175
3x crusaders,to soak up wounds
5x death cult assasins, hide behind crusaders the turn you jump out of the chimera

with the extra 5 points maybe upgrade/ change around inquisitor to your preferred flavor!

 chaplain iktinos wrote:
thanks, im not too familar with the imp guard, ill combine the two lists and he should have a preety rockin list

IG Primary

HQ

CCS /w autocannon

Troops

PCS /w autocannon

1 normal squad /w autocannon

1 vanilla squad

Fast Attack

Scout Sentinel /w autocannon

Inquisition Allies

ordo heriticus inquisitor,( idk what ordo you want)- 65
power sword
psyker

henchman warband in a chimera, inquisitor can join this unit, -175
3x crusaders,to soak up wounds
5x death cult assasins, hide behind crusaders the turn you jump out of the chimera

with the extra 5 points maybe upgrade/ change around inquisitor to your preferred flavor!

Sounds good but you need two troop choices. A platoon only counts as one. I'd go with vets imo.

ah crap in the butt... ok... tak eout one squad and add a vet squad instead, i believe therll be the perfect # of points


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ok, revised list lol, 480 points, with the extra twenty you could either grab another crusader or assasin, upgrade the inquisitor, or grab another auto cannon or something

ig primary-280

ccs, autocannon

infantry platoon
pcs, autocannon
infantry squad
infantry squad
veteran squad, autocannon

inquisitorial detachment:200

ordo malleus inquis, with psyker mastery 1

henchmen squad with chimera, 3 crusaders, 3 death cult assasins ( this will only work if you upgrade ur inquis or add another assasin)

this could be more competitive with only veterans, but you did want lots of firepower, and this is 40 men as opposed to 25

Thank you all so much. I know it may be annoying to just make an army for a newbie, but I don't know anyone personally who can help me, and I live literally hours from the closest GW shop, and to be honest I don't know if I should trust the people there to make an army, not to mention my budget is pretty limited which is why I am making first a 500pts list.

 chaplain iktinos wrote:


this could be more competitive with only veterans, but you did want lots of firepower, and this is 40 men as opposed to 25

Well I am not opposed to the idea, it actually makes sense to the army fluff. However I do already own a Cadian Shock Trooper squad so If I could reuse them and save money the better.

One last question how about ditching the chimera for a razorback/rhino ( since the inquisition codex allows them) so I can have extra points to upgrade more my troopers or extra henchmen?

live literally hours from the closest GW shop, and to be honest I don't know if I should trust the people there to make an army

Genrally sou shouldn't let them make an army for you. They just want you to buy the most expensive stuff half the time but it varies from shop to shop so if you don't like any of our ideas etc then just pop in and ask. Just be careful of what you buy and you should look into the unit you want before making any purchases because some units are just utterly useless exempt in certain circumstances, they may not fit your playstyle or they could be good at the high point levels and apocalypse games.

One last question how about ditching the chimera for a razorback/rhino

IMO razorbacks/rhinos are just not as good as chimeras. Less fire points, less guns on the actual tank and less survivability (AV 11 for rhino compared to AV 12 Chimera) however if you absolutely need the points elsewhere then you can go for the rhino/razorback.

However I do already own a Cadian Shock Trooper squad so If I could reuse them and save money the better

Veterans use the same model as normal guardsmen. However if you want to distinguish vets from the normal guardsmen then you could buy another kit from a different type of guardsmen eg. Valhallans.

veteran squad, autocannon

Ditch the auto cannon and take 2 plasma guns you need some anti MEQ and TEQ in this list even if it is just in the form of 2 plasma guns. IIRC FRFSRF means that if you're in rapid fire range then you can get 3 plasma shots each, however the danger of plasma is gets hot and 2 plasma gunners shooting 3 times means that on average you will get 1 gets hot a turn so just hope to god that you roll 5s for your armour saves.


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also if you don't like that idea then you could get 3 meltas for more anti MEQ/TEQ goodness without the gets hot but without the range that plasmas give you

FRFSRF only works on lasguns.

Also as you are a fluff person do realize that some units in the books might seem like go to units but in the game they are not. Like the books may make stormtroopers oout to be great soldier but in the game stormies are only really good for their suicide melta drop. Same thing for leman russes, in the books a leman russ battle tank is kitted out with a lascannon and heavy bolter sponsons but in the game since the LRBT's main cannon is ordnance if it fires that then all other weapons must snap fire.

So do read through your codex a couple of times, not once but a couple. Then go on GW's site and read the FAQ section for the IG because some of the stuff has been fixed or tuned up on and is different in the codex.

Hope this helps!